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Re: The Answer 15 Aug 2012 14:23 #161

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dubmeup wrote:
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I thought this was a members only section? I can still read it when I'm not logged in :conf:

If You look at the bottom of the forum section list you'll see the forum/members stuff bit and the vent room. Those two sections are only available to logged in members. All other areas are now viewable to guests as well as logged in members.
There WAS a private invite only area which was initially set up as a form of protection from the prying eyes of certain DIF admin who were at the time banning people here from the DIF left right and centre. As the site grew it became less and less useful/justifiable and it's now been scrapped.


ahhh i see
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Re: The Answer 15 Aug 2012 14:29 #162

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Read my thread on negative and positive energy and understand that you too must therefore accept yourself as a person who is projecting negative energy towards others and therefore is an energy vampire.

Can you point me to this thread please Master cos I can't find it? Ta

G'day Dubmeup.

I think Master11 may be referring to this thread ...

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/41567-Do...it=20&start=80#46156

... which is (I think) that Master11 first posted on it (post # 98), which was started by Rick.

Cheers IAAIA, so in other word's " Read my thread on negative and positive energy " is um ah um what? Misleading? Mistaken?

G'day Dubmeup.

Or, a false claim, a fabrication, a fallacy, self-aggrandisement ... or even all of them. ;)

Of course, those are polite terms for it. :D

Others may call it something else ... where's Psketti ? :psketti:
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
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Re: The Answer 15 Aug 2012 18:15 #163

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Master11 wrote:
Says you IAM who was projecting your issues the other day... Cant barely stand or sit down! HAHA, yeah you get my sympathy vote... NOT!
:smoking:Master11 wrote:
Read my thread on negative and positive energy and understand that you too must therefore accept yourself as a person who is projecting negative energy towards others and therefore is an energy vampire...

Your thread!?!?
Master11 wrote:
This is shown by the fact you won't just ask a question yet will continue to project foul language just to bully your way around the forum...
Wrong.
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Yeah, that's another assumption of yourself from myself seen as that's the only way you accept criticism. There are a few more personal assumptions I could give about yourself but I would be stupid to go about shouting those out. Its not professional nor clever... It just shows a poor sense of self wealth and lack of education.

Oooo arent you the bitch :uzi: Funny thing to say "professional" It's just a forum mate. Build yourself a bridge and get over it.
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Try been nice instead of cantankerous for once and you might not need to seek that inner peace and you might start gaining some good luck and positivity in your life.

Mirror?
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I'm amazed at how quickly this forum has rejected and become defensive towards posters it all seems very abrupt... If you don't like the post, how about YOU don't reply..

Like wise.
Master11 wrote:
That would be the positive and constructive way to go about it. Not telling people to go elsewhere that is just over assertive when there is no need to be and won't help a thing... People aren't just going to go away when they are trying to voice valid research and have some fun in regards to topics of like-minded people.

Can't say I've seen IAAIA tell people to go else where. Your yaking on about an issue in another thread from memory didn't IAAIA start another thread on an issue you had in relation to numerology so both of you could discuss it there instead hijacking the previous thread. I consider that quite respectful.
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This was a game... ask a question and try to enjoy it, so the rest of people looking at this can enjoy it.

Errrr Bullshit ! .
Master11 wrote:
If you don't you are just going to drive other users away and end up like the David Icke Forum... People won't want to be associated with a forum full of negativity and will just class it as a broken offspring of the DIF that proved the same thing.

Actually it does seem like you are doing the exact thing you accuses IAAIA of doing bring in negativity. I find that IAAIA has good debating skills, a strong personality but respectful at the same time, where's as I feel you are coming across as someone with their nose out of joint and show that indignation.
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Maybe a reality check should be taken here for the good of all...

Damn! Why does that sound exactly like the person who started the thread. Rather pompous to say for the "good of all".

I've got myself caught up in some garbage and I thought it was sorted out, but another dig happened very early on in a thread. I let it go, then something I said triggered it off again and I let myself get caught up in the emotion of it all.

Then I realized it's not worth it. Why buy into the negativity, is that a game to buy into negativity?
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Re: The Answer 15 Aug 2012 18:46 #164

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toby-c-boon wrote:
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Isn't time just a man made construct? As i understand it time can loop back on it's self hence there really isn't a concept of time as we know it, on that bases there is no end and answers are obtained on the journey not the end. :thumbup:
toby-c-boon wrote:
Time is a man made construct is it? Can you name the man who made it?

:facepalm:
toby-c-boon wrote:
You could argue that humans are here to experience and mark time but you are trying to day if humans were not here the linear timeline would dissolve, this is not the case.

Nope, never said that. It has been proven that time can loop back on it's self, therefore it is not linear. If it was as you propose then you would have to KNOW where the universe started and where it ends.

Philosophers have been debating this for eon's....your not one of them :aok:
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Your argument that there is no end because it begins again holds no weight, no matter which way you look at it, the end still comes. There is no way you can answer every question during the "journey", if you can then start a thread like this and prove it. You cant because it is beyond the capability of a human.
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Your what is commonly called a wanker.
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Re: The Answer 15 Aug 2012 21:25 #165

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Oh, still going on are we... Well thank you for your input Boots... Guess your looking for a reply so ill do it in the same manner as you have, ill try and join the non-productive style of debating a few of you are oh so used to. Boots wrote:
Master11 wrote:
Says you IAM who was projecting your issues the other day... Cant barely stand or sit down! HAHA, yeah you get my sympathy vote... NOT!
:smoking: Hilarious!Master11 wrote:
Read my thread on negative and positive energy and understand that you too must therefore accept yourself as a person who is projecting negative energy towards others and therefore is an energy vampire...

Your thread!?!?
Apologies, post in thread but you already knew that your just nitpicking
Master11 wrote:
This is shown by the fact you won't just ask a question yet will continue to project foul language just to bully your way around the forum...
Wrong. Right
Master11 wrote:
Yeah, that's another assumption of yourself from myself seen as that's the only way you accept criticism. There are a few more personal assumptions I could give about yourself but I would be stupid to go about shouting those out. Its not professional nor clever... It just shows a poor sense of self wealth and lack of education.

Oooo arent you the bitch :uzi: Funny thing to say "professional" It's just a forum mate. Build yourself a bridge and get over it. Did the word professional make you laugh? I know its a forum and if the owners/admin want it to be a well established and trustworthy place then of cause professionalism is required. Work and play should be done in equal amounts.
Master11 wrote:
Try been nice instead of cantankerous for once and you might not need to seek that inner peace and you might start gaining some good luck and positivity in your life.

Mirror? What are you referring to? Explain how Ive given that impression please

Master11 wrote:
I'm amazed at how quickly this forum has rejected and become defensive towards posters it all seems very abrupt... If you don't like the post, how about YOU don't reply..

Like wise. I do like to post so whats your point?
Master11 wrote:
That would be the positive and constructive way to go about it. Not telling people to go elsewhere that is just over assertive when there is no need to be and won't help a thing... People aren't just going to go away when they are trying to voice valid research and have some fun in regards to topics of like-minded people.

Can't say I've seen IAAIA tell people to go else where. Your yaking on about an issue in another thread from memory didn't IAAIA start another thread on an issue you had in relation to numerology so both of you could discuss it there instead hijacking the previous thread. I consider that quite respectful. How would you know unless you where the same poster or have spoken directly to IAM regarding? Also, he started a thread because he wouldn't talk on the chat due to the fact he did not want to believe anything I said... So there wasn't a thread hijack lol... So again, doesn't have any correlation. Your just sticking up for IAM for some unexplained reason.
Master11 wrote:
This was a game... ask a question and try to enjoy it, so the rest of people looking at this can enjoy it.

Errrr Bullshit ! What is?
Master11 wrote:
If you don't you are just going to drive other users away and end up like the David Icke Forum... People won't want to be associated with a forum full of negativity and will just class it as a broken offspring of the DIF that proved the same thing.

Actually it does seem like you are doing the exact thing you accuses IAAIA of doing bring in negativity. I find that IAAIA has good debating skills, a strong personality but respectful at the same time, where's as I feel you are coming across as someone with their nose out of joint and show that indignation. LoL, sticking up for your buddy IAM again... Explain how I have been negative and why you feel this way please.
Master11 wrote:
Maybe a reality check should be taken here for the good of all...

Damn! Why does that sound exactly like the person who started the thread. Rather pompous to say for the "good of all". Seems your trying to say I'm more than one user... Strange that, because that's my assumption on you as well! ---Pompous or just been respectful like your buddy IAM?

I've got myself caught up in some garbage and I thought it was sorted out, but another dig happened very early on in a thread. I let it go, then something I said triggered it off again and I let myself get caught up in the emotion of it all.

Then I realized it's not worth it. Why buy into the negativity, is that a game to buy into negativity?
Poor self of self judgement and assessment lol

Ill refer to your post on this thread:

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/General/41567-Do...t=20&start=100#46832

"Peo­ple have to very weary of what they put out there on forums as there are indi­vid­u­als who will use this infor­ma­tion for there own nefar­i­ous pur­poses.

Psy­chic vam­pires can be met in real life but also on forums and since peo­ple can hide behind a user­name you can’t tell what they are really like or what their true inten­tions are. The best way to lure peo­ple in is to come across as naïve and inno­cent.

Can’t you see that this is a trap?

I’m shocked that peo­ple were so open about them­selves on here."

Funny how you just posted this... Are you trying to cover yours and IAM's backs? Not only negative, but defensive also. How naive and innocent are you, or is this just aruse again... Your rather really clever or just a bit one sided. Ill keep my opinion to myself.
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Re: The Answer 15 Aug 2012 22:01 #166

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Master, I'd like to clarify something. Have you seen any adverts on this site? Have you seen the donations box?

This site isn't a business. It started out as a couple of people making a little forum on a free platform, then when a few more of us joined up, it evolved and moved to the current platform on a rented server. The original creator of SZ1 put up the cash to rent the server and since then those of us that can spare a few pennies have chipped in a bit to try and get him some of his cash back.
That's what this place is. A group of people that want to have a "sanctum" on the internet. Till now, we've all chipped in in our own ways, all of us have a say in the place and i think I can speak for most if not all of those that were here before you arrived when I say, we like it that way.
The four admin here have done and do a bloody excellent 'job'. Look around, do you think the zones chat etc all appeared by magic? They put their heart and soul into this place. Why? So someone such as yourself can waltz in and start telling the mods not to post and that they should all be "professional"? I think not.
Frankly your attitude to the place so far has sucked. One could be forgiven that your good self and your buddy or two that greeted each other so warmly by first names in blast chat the day you all first arrived are just here because you think you can have a laugh at us or cause trouble :dunno:
I say this, get over it. Get in to the place, have your say in how it develops, contribute or don't. I for one couldn't care either way but quit the attitude if you plan on hanging about please.
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Re: The Answer 16 Aug 2012 00:32 #167

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Couldn't have said it better dubs :rose:














... well I may possibly have slipped in a cunt or two :coffee:
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Re: The Answer 16 Aug 2012 00:36 #168

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feather wrote:
That is obviously not true as you made the arrogant preconception that the members here, (and presumably at 4chan), were unable to determine answers for themselves and you possessed superior knowledge which you were prepared to graciously impart to them.

Nobody said you were unable to determine the answers. Dont put yourself down so much, I dont think anyone here is stupid.
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(1) Did it ever occur to you that those who participate in conspiracy discussions have had their fill of all-knowing gurus?

You think I am an all-knowing guru?
feather wrote:
(2) No human, whether concealed behind an anonymous descriptor or avatar is without an ego. The word literally means 'I' or 'self'.
The occasion when you are having a discussion with an egoless entity on the web is the one where your talking with a bot.

My answers that are from the matrix of consciousness are from a place where the ego has no effect. My answers that arent from there surely have some ulterior motive somewhere down the line.
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Just about everyone I know but I can't believe I even bothered to respond to that to be honest.

Really? Where are you from?
feather wrote:
I indicated it was "your turn" to make the tea. Rather than being symbolic of subjugation, it should have indicated that you were an equal and someone else would be making you tea when it was their turn.

Answer honestly, what would you describe your emotional state as when you asked that of me?
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(a)"All ques­tions will be answered." Not a lot of room for limits or humility in that statement eh?

i am not understanding why you think I am being like that. By answering questions I am putting forward a service. I arent asking for your money or adoration and I genuinely believe the information I give can be helpful especially to those who are questing spiritually.
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Why on earth would my 'self' be threatened? Please expand upon the dangers to me?
Do you mean my self-confidence perhaps because you may expose a lack of information or perception on my part?
My entire life has been spent in such exchanges with people from tiny children through to professors and all stops in between. I mostly enjoyed the experiences. The less enjoyable ones were the revelations of just how barbaric and disturbed people can be.
(c) Again you take the self-centric viewpoint. We all enter into knowledge and perception discussions to refine our understanding. Otherwise why would we bother? The difference is that everyone else would view it as a two-way exchange not a pontificating platform.

It is just more efficient in the format I came with IF the person asking the questions does just that. Like I said you could get way further by just asking sincere questions.

It is like when a novice wants to learn from someone who masters a craft. The more resistance the novice puts in, the longer it takes for them to glean information. Has a teacher never chided you for being silly or acting up in class, have you never seen a professor have favourites? All that is for a good reason.

For the record, I am terrified everytime I ask a question of the matrix of consciousness. The answer is hardly ever the one you want to hear.
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(d) Nice little bag of attempted derisory assumptions there. I asked you a question earlier regarding the whereabouts of Peter Piper's peck of pickled peppers. You replied with the co-ordinates for Edinburgh, rather than truthfully respond that the subject was merely a device in a tongue-twister and did not actually exist. So either you are not a trustworthy source of accurate information and therefore I should spend no more time indulging you or you were being jokey and flippant which apparently, according to your own standards, is not de rigueur for a conspiracy forum.

The co-ordinates to a place where a man named Peter picks pecks of pickled peppers actually. How do you find that to be wrong in any way?

Of all the questions to ask you choose that one. Not because you wished to push and expand you own consciousness.......but because you wanted to test me. Hence your ego took over. If you took that question to your higher self it would not be impressed, the implications of which are not good at all.
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Here's your tea btw.

You don't have to make tea just because this place is full of mugs.
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Re: The Answer 16 Aug 2012 00:36 #169

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Re: The Answer 16 Aug 2012 00:51 #170

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I AM ALL I AM wrote:
toby-c-boon wrote:
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G'day Toby-c-boon..

Interesting response that you have made to Boots here.

toby-c-boon wrote:
Boots wrote:
Isn't time just a man made construct? As i understand it time can loop back on it's self hence there really isn't a concept of time as we know it, on that bases there is no end and answers are obtained on the journey not the end. :thumbup:

Time is a man made construct is it? Can you name the man who made it?

This part is a straw man argument. Simply because someone could not name the individual "who made it" does not mean that it isn't man made. For instance, could you name the individual that came up with the English language ?

If you can't, does that mean that the English language isn't man made ?

toby-c-boon wrote:
You could argue that humans are here to experience and mark time but you are trying to day if humans were not here the linear timeline would dissolve, this is not the case.

This appears to be another straw man argument. From having read Boots' post, he hasn't stated that "the linear timeline would dissolve" as far as I can see.

Also, the "You could argue ..." part is pointless, unless it is you that is making such a claim, for again, Boots did not post any such thing, and therefore, if you are not claiming such, then it is a straw man argument.

toby-c-boon wrote:
Your argument that there is no end because it begins again holds no weight, no matter which way you look at it, the end still comes. There is no way you can answer every question during the "journey", if you can then start a thread like this and prove it. You cant because it is beyond the capability of a human.

Boots actually proposed that there isn't an end as time loops back around on itself, not that "it begins again". There would have to an ending for it to begin again.

You are also attempting to switch the burden of proof. As you are declaring that there is 'time', then the burden of proof would be upon you, the one affirming it. After all, it is a logical fallacy believing that you can disprove a negative. For instance, how could you prove that there are no unicorns ?

This is also known as an argument from ignorance.


Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance" (where "ignorance" stands for: "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false, it is "generally accepted" (or vice versa). This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there is insufficient investigation and therefore insufficient information to prove the proposition satisfactorily to be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four, (1) true, (2) false, (3) unknown between true or false, and (4) being unknowable (among the first three).[1] In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.

Curious how you left out the definition of "straw man argument" seen as I have not used one.

G'day Toby-c-boon.

And how does equating having "left out the definition of "straw man arguments"" to you "not having used one" ?

That in itself is a straw man argument, of which a quote of the definition for it is here ...


A straw man, known in the UK as an Aunt Sally, is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

...

The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:

1. Person A has position X.
2. Person B disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the superficially similar position Y. The position Y is a distorted version of X and can be set up in several ways, including:
1. Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent's position.
2. Quoting an opponent's words out of context — i.e. choosing quotations that misrepresent the opponent's actual intentions (see fallacy of quoting out of context).[2]
3. Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, then refuting that person's arguments — thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position (and thus the position itself) has been defeated.[1]
4. Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs which are then criticized, implying that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
5. Oversimplifying an opponent's argument, then attacking this oversimplified version.
3. Person B attacks position Y, concluding that X is false/incorrect/flawed.

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position fails to constitute an attack on the actual position.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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In the end you will know everything, that was the answer to the poster's first question. Said poster then wanted to argue that there is no such thing as "the end" and you want to accuse me of moving goal posts?

So, by making the statement, "In the end ...", you are making a positive claim that there is an "end", yet when questioned on the validity of such a thing as "the end", you are unwilling to provide evidence to support your claim and simply repeat your claim AS IF it can be the only answer ... yet on top of arguing from ignorance by attempting to shift the burden of proof, you add a straw man to defend your position. :roll: :pmsl:
toby-c-boon wrote:
Without the end there can be no beginning and without the beginning there will be no end. How can you have difficulty with that from a human perspective.

A reminder of what Boots stated ...
Boots wrote:
Isn't time just a man made construct? As i understand it time can loop back on it's self hence there really isn't a concept of time as we know it, on that bases there is no end and answers are obtained on the journey not the end. :thumbup:

... to which you commented on, stating ...
toby-c-boon wrote:
Your argument that there is no end because it begins again holds no weight, no matter which way you look at it, the end still comes. There is no way you can answer every question during the "journey", if you can then start a thread like this and prove it. You cant because it is beyond the capability of a human.

... and which I replied with ...

"Boots actually proposed that there isn't an end as time loops back around on itself, not that "it begins again". There would have to an ending for it to begin again."

So, yeah, no "end" means there wouldn't be a beginning, of which you stated, "Your argument that there is no end because it begins holds no weight ...", makes no sense as you now state, "Without the end there can be no beginning ...".

As is clearly shown, you falsely presented Boots statement. Where's the difficulty in comprehending that ?

Or is it only in admitting it ?

toby-c-boon wrote:
Is the poster trying to say that they see the fractal nature of the God's dream as a going concearn?

If not then their argument is of no practical value.

Boots stated what he stated, nothing more, nothing less. Instead of responding to what Boots actually has stated, you have built a straw man argument.

I find it interesting that you appear to not like being questioned about the statements that you make, yet have started a thread requesting questions ?!?!?!?

Personally, I think that it is rather ironic.

I did not make a straw man argument, I can only argue against the few words I am given.

This would mean that you imply that Boots is not articulate enough to speak for his/herself.

As is evidenced by your valient rush to defend hour friend who apparently you hold a psychic connection with, being that you seem to know exactly what the vague and ill defined questions and snipes are getting it.

How about you look up irony aswell because you have misconstrued that aswell. In actuality, I suggested that the posters here could learn by way of Socratic irony, alas this has not been the case.
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Re: The Answer 16 Aug 2012 00:59 #171

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Boots wrote:
Philosophers have been debating this for eon's....your not one of them :aok:

Because I am employed?
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Your what is commonly called a wanker.

You should put your palm to better use yourself, instead of putting to your face. Better yet, get laid and ease away some of your obvious tension because you seem to get riled up pretty easy. Just admit it, you werent asking a genuine question, you was just looking for an argument. Do you think you can really talk to me about spacetime with all that anger and wasted energy. I have been outside the timeloop, it is a pretty cool story, you should have gotten onto that instead of trying to massage your ego.
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Re: The Answer 16 Aug 2012 01:07 #172

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You know what toby c... I believe you're completely wasted around here. Seriously. You're much to big for this little place.
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Master, I'd like to clarify something. Have you seen any adverts on this site? Have you seen the donations box?

This site isn't a business. It started out as a couple of people making a little forum on a free platform, then when a few more of us joined up, it evolved and moved to the current platform on a rented server. The original creator of SZ1 put up the cash to rent the server and since then those of us that can spare a few pennies have chipped in a bit to try and get him some of his cash back.
That's what this place is. A group of people that want to have a "sanctum" on the internet. Till now, we've all chipped in in our own ways, all of us have a say in the place and i think I can speak for most if not all of those that were here before you arrived when I say, we like it that way.
The four admin here have done and do a bloody excellent 'job'. Look around, do you think the zones chat etc all appeared by magic? They put their heart and soul into this place. Why? So someone such as yourself can waltz in and start telling the mods not to post and that they should all be "professional"? I think not.
Frankly your attitude to the place so far has sucked. One could be forgiven that your good self and your buddy or two that greeted each other so warmly by first names in blast chat the day you all first arrived are just here because you think you can have a laugh at us or cause trouble :dunno:
I say this, get over it. Get in to the place, have your say in how it develops, contribute or don't. I for one couldn't care either way but quit the attitude if you plan on hanging about please.

You dont know the real reason I am here, and you probably never will, it was certainly not to laugh at you or cause trouble, do you really think you are not responsible in any way for how people treat you. To say you couldan't care is an outright lie, you clearly do. I have not lied once in this forum so afford me the same respect. If you really want me to go, then ban me, it's easy.
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... well I may possibly have slipped in a cunt or two :coffee:

Try less lube.
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... well I may possibly have slipped in a cunt or two :coffee:

Try less lube.

I'm more inclined to go for dry.
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... well I may possibly have slipped in a cunt or two :coffee:

Possibly? That holiday appears to have changed you my dear ;)
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psketti wrote:
... well I may possibly have slipped in a cunt or two :coffee:

Possibly? That holiday appears to have changed you my dear ;)

Nah, just rattled the brain about abit... it will settle down all too soon don't you fret yourself :sokay:
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feather wrote:
That is obviously not true as you made the arrogant preconception that the members here, (and presumably at 4chan), were unable to determine answers for themselves and you possessed superior knowledge which you were prepared to graciously impart to them.

Nobody said you were unable to determine the answers. Dont put yourself down so much, I dont think anyone here is stupid.
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(1) Did it ever occur to you that those who participate in conspiracy discussions have had their fill of all-knowing gurus?

You think I am an all-knowing guru?
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(2) No human, whether concealed behind an anonymous descriptor or avatar is without an ego. The word literally means 'I' or 'self'.
The occasion when you are having a discussion with an egoless entity on the web is the one where your talking with a bot.

My answers that are from the matrix of consciousness are from a place where the ego has no effect. My answers that arent from there surely have some ulterior motive somewhere down the line.
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Just about everyone I know but I can't believe I even bothered to respond to that to be honest.

Really? Where are you from?
feather wrote:
I indicated it was "your turn" to make the tea. Rather than being symbolic of subjugation, it should have indicated that you were an equal and someone else would be making you tea when it was their turn.

Answer honestly, what would you describe your emotional state as when you asked that of me?
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(a)"All ques­tions will be answered." Not a lot of room for limits or humility in that statement eh?

i am not understanding why you think I am being like that. By answering questions I am putting forward a service. I arent asking for your money or adoration and I genuinely believe the information I give can be helpful especially to those who are questing spiritually.
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Why on earth would my 'self' be threatened? Please expand upon the dangers to me?
Do you mean my self-confidence perhaps because you may expose a lack of information or perception on my part?
My entire life has been spent in such exchanges with people from tiny children through to professors and all stops in between. I mostly enjoyed the experiences. The less enjoyable ones were the revelations of just how barbaric and disturbed people can be.
(c) Again you take the self-centric viewpoint. We all enter into knowledge and perception discussions to refine our understanding. Otherwise why would we bother? The difference is that everyone else would view it as a two-way exchange not a pontificating platform.

It is just more efficient in the format I came with IF the person asking the questions does just that. Like I said you could get way further by just asking sincere questions.

It is like when a novice wants to learn from someone who masters a craft. The more resistance the novice puts in, the longer it takes for them to glean information. Has a teacher never chided you for being silly or acting up in class, have you never seen a professor have favourites? All that is for a good reason.

For the record, I am terrified everytime I ask a question of the matrix of consciousness. The answer is hardly ever the one you want to hear.
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(d) Nice little bag of attempted derisory assumptions there. I asked you a question earlier regarding the whereabouts of Peter Piper's peck of pickled peppers. You replied with the co-ordinates for Edinburgh, rather than truthfully respond that the subject was merely a device in a tongue-twister and did not actually exist. So either you are not a trustworthy source of accurate information and therefore I should spend no more time indulging you or you were being jokey and flippant which apparently, according to your own standards, is not de rigueur for a conspiracy forum.

The co-ordinates to a place where a man named Peter picks pecks of pickled peppers actually. How do you find that to be wrong in any way?

Of all the questions to ask you choose that one. Not because you wished to push and expand you own consciousness.......but because you wanted to test me. Hence your ego took over. If you took that question to your higher self it would not be impressed, the implications of which are not good at all.
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Here's your tea btw.

You don't have to make tea just because this place is full of mugs.
I saw this and thought of you....
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