I get where you're at IAAIA.
I was as guilty as you at reacting to them, but that's kinda the issue here and why rules were set out in the first place to prevent it all descending into a shitfest.

We can all throw abuse around at each other but it's good natured banter. You know that if anyone was genuinely offended by something said we would feel terrible and apologise immediately.

These guys blatantly set out for a tag-team troll of SZ.
Standard stuff; derail threads, swamp chatrooms with crap to make normal convos impossible, provoke reactions, play victim when challenged, yadda yadda.
Now you either indulge that and do nothing, (other members give up and move on elsewhere. Precisely how SZ came into being btw), or you draw a line and boot them.

If you hesitate too long or don't act you'll be dodging tumbleweed on here in no time. Guaranteed.


2 pennies

how's your back I AM ALL I AM (hope you realise I'm making making fun of the muppets with that comment)

Was anyone here familiar with his beloved 4chan where he was highly esteemed by an audience of superior intelligence?

I'd never heard of it before, but a brief glance when he 1st mentioned it would have revealed sooner what type of person he is.

(Warning - don't view if easily offended by porn, hatred and ignorant scum)

boards.4chan.org/b/

Is 4chan not a bunch of teenagers thinking they are cool and trying shock by swearing?

gilly
/b/ is random, its not a place for everyone. its very hit and miss, 90% pure shit, but 10% hilarity. people put down walls of decency and say the worst things.
theres other boards there too /x/ is paranormal board, theres /ck/ cock. i mean cooking, /k/ is weapons etc..

/x/ is generally a nice and interesting place

also posts dont last long on there, once they fall to page 10 w/o being bumped they are deleted or something. i dont know/care how that works. but everything is temporary there.

theres a lot of traffic , its a very dynamic board.
so what im saying is dont judge 4chan on /b/ its the squeaky wheel.

The toilet idea does sound quite interesting........

No, not for those reasons

diamondgeezer wrote:
G'day Diamondgeezer.

I hear you mate. I'm simply owning up to my part in it and am willing to accept responsibility for my self expression. If that means that I am subject to a vote for banning, so be it. I'm willing to abide by whatever decision that the forum members make in relationship to me breaking the rules.

I also comprehend the difference between what I did and the abuse from Toby-c-boon, Master11 and Eyes_Wide_Open. Personally, I think that the 3 of them were here with the one intent, to cause disruption, discontent and division. This doesn't alleviate myself from being bound to the rules of the forum that I agreed to when I signed up here.

Personally, I think that I did nothing 'wrong'. That's really not for me to decide though, at least not in relationship to the forum rules.

Anyway, this isn't a plea to be banned. I posted what I did because I believe in being truthful and accepting responsibility for my self expression. I'd prefer not to be banned. Again, that isn't a decision for me to make.

feather wrote:
G'day Feather.

Mate, I totally agree that it was a tag team effort.

I also agree that you have to make a stand in relationship to those that are here for such purposes.

I put my 'head on the block', so to speak, because I also broke the forum rules. I'm willing to allow forum members to make their own mind up about what I did.

dawnbreak wrote:
G'day Dawnbreak.

Still there sunshine.

dubmeup wrote:
G'day Dubmeup.

I won't ask for what reasons.

THE TOILET was set up on Infy to use instead of banning people (unless it contravened the Terms of Service - which the banning I mentioned did). A sub-forum that only members could view, and if they chose to, still interact with those that had been restricted to THE TOILET. Simple really.

Were their any glory holes in the partitions to other forum's bogs?

dubmeup wrote:

Hi dubs

I AM ALL I AM wrote: I didn't witness what happened, so I only have other people's version of events to go on, but this would be utterly ridiculous. I would hope most people could make a distinction between coming to a site with the express intention of being abusive and bigoted, and having a strong and an (perhaps) unwise, but natural, reaction to that. They're not the same thing at all, and the latter shouldn't result in any recriminations, let alone banning. Being racist, homophobic, or in fact any form of bigotry, is totally unacceptable, IMHO.

Gilly wrote:
its pommie talk then

You can Ban em Stick em in the Closet...... but they will just keep coming back

It's true that they'll probably keep coming back - if not the same characters, then others like them, Some people hate to see others having a good time.

However, the precedent's been set, so hopefully, we can agree to act faster with the banning hammer, before they've had the opportunity to vomit as much bile around the joint.

I wasn't there to see what went on in Chat, but I'm enraged that they came here and tried to hurt people I love with their foulness, I think if I'd been there, I'd have even shocked you IAAIA with my language.

Some info for clarity...since i missed all this i caught up in this thread.

Saw that some posters think they came as a team, which prompted me to take a look.

I can confirm that Master11 and toby the noob are the same person.

dubmeup wrote: dubmeup wrote:
Interesting to note where your mind is at when talk of toilets is mentioned.

Speaking of toilets, do we flush Master11 now since he seems to also be toby the noob...or do we wait for him to xplain himself

novum wrote:

wake_up_bomb wrote:
G'day Wake_Up_Bomb.

I will reiterate what I stated to Diamongeezer, I get the distinction between what I did and what the others did.

I'm simply being honest about what it is that I did. I didn't only break the forum rules, I didn't portray myself in the manner in which I would choose to BE. There is a difference to me in stating that someone is a wanker and that someone is acting like a wanker. The first one I am labeling them, the second I am describing / pointing out the manner in which they are acting.

Personally, I think that they acted like arseholes, in that an arsehole performs the function of shitting, and they shitted on the forum members that were present in the chat box, and by association, all others that are members of this forum based upon what they stated about the forum and its membership.

Now this might appear to be pedantic to some, I can comprehend why that would be the case. Yet I know the difference in the manner in which I conducted myself.

That you have stated, "I would hope most people could make a distinction", is something that I am willing to believe that forum members can easily recognise for themselves. I am simply giving them the opportunity to decide based upon the truth of the situation without 'sugar-coating' my part in it. If you will, consider it a form of self-moderation, a principle that this forum is based upon.

After all, remember, it's not like I wasn't accused of joining this forum with a specific "agenda". The only agenda that I actually have is to express myself as Who I Am, an individuated aspect of Life, in which in this instance, I didn't do so. It might be seen as a small matter, though to me it is all that matters, as it is my self-expression, a representation (re-presentation) of Who I Am. I am willingly confessing that who I chose to BE isn't representational of Who I Am. As this is the case, it is up to me to do something about that. Hence the post that I made.

I will state this so that it is clearly understood, I hold myself accountable to my own standards. In no way, shape or form is anyone else accountable to those standards. They are my standards for me to live by. If I am seen to compromise those standards, I freely invite anyone to point it out to me so that I can correct my self expression.

That I broke the forum rules is not as big a concern for me as breaking my own standards. However, being a member of this forum, I am also accountable to the forum rules that are in place and which I agreed to when I signed up to the forum.

I have confidence that others can recognise the difference (a few have posted such already, as you yourself have) between what I did and the abuse from the others.

I have been a witness to the sort of behaviour that went on previously. On the IL forum (Infy), there were quite a few that came there to 'troll' the place. There are certain 'give-aways' if you will that they show when doing this. After seeing it numerous times, many on Infy gave such individuals short shrift, either calling them out or simply telling them to fuck off. The forum community principles that are in place on Infy are different to the forum rules here, though the idea behind them has the same basis. It is how we, as a community, interact with each other that creates the forum.

With this in mind, I willing admit to how I acted in the chat box. It is up to everyone else as to how they perceive this and whether or not it requires some form of moderation by the community. My communication about this is that I willing admit to my conduct and accept full responsibility for it. As I stated previously, this can be taken as a form of self-moderation.