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Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 03:51 #1

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Then said he want's to spend the war money on education.

Major Anti-War rhetoric going on at the DNC right now.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 09:46 #2

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RealAmerican wrote:
Then said he want's to spend the war money on education.

Major Anti-War rhetoric going on at the DNC right now.

While outside the DNC, the sabre rattling continues...

US & allies Navy off Iranian and Chinese waters

US & allies talk of "military intervention" in Syria

The Dems and Repugs are just like a good cop bad cop routine.

The apathy over the US elections is palpable in the UK right now.

US & allies talk of war with Iran
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 10:22 #3

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mikey mikey wrote:
RealAmerican wrote:
Then said he want's to spend the war money on education.

Major Anti-War rhetoric going on at the DNC right now.

While outside the DNC, the sabre rattling continues...

US & allies Navy off Iranian and Chinese waters

US & allies talk of "military intervention" in Syria

The Dems and Repugs are just like a good cop bad cop routine.

The apathy over the US elections is palpable in the UK right now.

US & allies talk of war with Iran

Obama promised a lot of anti war stuff before election.
Then basically went very quiet and carried on doing the same job as before.

He has had a very quiet presidency hasn't he?
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 10:36 #4

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RealAmerican wrote:
Then said he want's to spend the war money on education.

Major Anti-War rhetoric going on at the DNC right now.

Or to look at it another way he's been spending education money on war thus far.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 10:47 #5

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oioioi wrote:
Or to look at it another way he's been spending education money on war thus far.

:clap:

Very nicely done, sir.

Meanwhile...
Pentagon plans drone sales to 66 countries
Last year, US weapons exports amounted $66.3 billion worth of deals thanks to sales to the States’ allies, the largest figure ever to come through arms sales. Just last month, a Congressional Research Service report claimed that 2011 was “the highest single year agreements total in the history of the US arms export program,” and that trend could very well carry over, especially if UAVs are added to the list of inventory available to the allies.

The POTUS is, after all, the Commander in Chief
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 11:32 #6

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RealAmerican wrote:
Major Anti-War rhetoric going on at the DNC right now.

The oppostite from last week when Willard was promising military action against Iran. Is Romney the US version of Cameron? Well, he has nicer hair. :)

As Mikey said, Barry made the same soothing noises last time and I think the last few years have shown how full of shit the fella is.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 12:19 #7

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A new military-themed reality show from NBC, entitled “Stars Earn Stripes,” debuts tonight. The show “enthusiastically melds warfare and fame,” as a Washington Post review today put it. It features eight celebrities (using the loosest definition of that term) — such as husband-of-Sarah Todd Palin, former Superman Dean Cain, and former boy band member Nick Lachey — paired up with “military and law enforcement veterans, including a Green Beret, a SWAT officer, two Marine sergeants, a retired member of the Delta Force and two Navy SEALs”, whom NBC hails as the “Bad Ass Operatives.” They’re all under the “command” of Gen. Wesley Clark, who once actually thought he should be President, as he co-hosts this reality show with former Dancing with the Stars host Samantha Harris (subjecting oneself to the two preview videos below, one wonders how much NBC had to pay to purchase Gen. Clark’s dignity in full: probably more than the Terror group MEK paid him to become its loyal shill).

www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald//

Clearly NBC's marketing research indicates that war is more appealing to the American public than Obama's staff@s survey has lead his speech writers to believe.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 13:15 #8

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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 14:59 #9

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Its crazy how the RNC was like a giant pro-war rally.

And the DNC was like a Anti-war rally.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 15:27 #10

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RealAmerican wrote:
Its crazy how the RNC was like a giant pro-war rally.

And the DNC was like a Anti-war rally.

As I said: good cop/bad cop. :yinyan:

The foreign policy remains more or less the same.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 15:35 #11

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As I said: good cop/bad cop.

Right, but the bad cops go extra heavy on the Shock & Awe...
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 16:07 #12

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RealAmerican wrote:
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As I said: good cop/bad cop.

Right, but the bad cops go extra heavy on the Shock & Awe...

At the Aipac jamboree Barry was slated by the Faux news brigade for only promising to defend Israel from Iran whilst Gingrich/Santorum & Mitt promised to attack Iran as soon as they were voted in.

I say it's more bad cop/mentalist cop.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 16:54 #13

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Right, but the bad cops go extra heavy on the Shock & Awe...

What a sad situation: the only reason we can find to root for Obama is that he is slightly less of a warmongerer than Romney.

It's like an abusive boyfriend that tells his victim that he doesn't beat her as much as the last boyfriend did. :(
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 17:31 #14

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Right, but the bad cops go extra heavy on the Shock & Awe...

What a sad situation: the only reason we can find to root for Obama is that he is slightly less of a warmongerer than Romney.

It's like an abusive boyfriend that tells his victim that he doesn't beat her as much as the last boyfriend did. :(

If Santorum got the job he was going to Nuke Iran during his Inaugural oath and swearing-in ceremony.

I wasn't going to vote but now im going to go press the button and hope Obama gets back in.

Just in-case those PNAC guys show up on the scene with John Bolton and plan for more "Shock and Awe".
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 17:44 #15

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I wasn't going to vote but now im going to go press the button and hope Obama gets back in.

Well I kinda though you would blue. Just as I think that many of the posters on the DIF election subforum are going to vote Republican.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 18:12 #16

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The conspiracy side of me says that there is no need to vote because it's all fake propaganda.

But living in America i have more fear of these PNAC Neo Cons then anything else.

The South want's to rise again once and for all, but im from the Northeast so fuck that shit.

15-20 years from now that inbred brainwashed republican mindset might be breed out of people.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 18:38 #17

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Well I might think the same way you do, if I had to worry about the US dometic policy.

However that which affects me and my loved ones, the foreign policy, seems to be in the hands of anybody but the POTUS.

Either that, or Obama chose to go back on his word.

I used to have some sympathy for the Democrat-American citizens and press: I watched The Young Turks, Rachel Maddow, Countdown, The Daily Show and I regularly checked sites like Media Matters, Newshounds and Democracy Now.

Now I am convinced that the worse the domestic situation in America, the closer to an uprising within the US and the greater the chance that the US people will do something about its nations empire building and international terrorism.

All Obama's election served to do is fill us all with a false sense of security and let our guards down.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 19:43 #18

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Now I am convinced that the worse the domestic situation in America, the closer to an uprising within the US and the greater the chance that the US people will do something about its nations empire building and international terrorism.

All Obama's election served to do is fill us all with a false sense of security and let our guards down.

Since 2009 after watching the majority of Middle Class make adjustments I don't feel that way anymore.

The empire building and international terrorism could be a thing of the past..imo

I never realized before how well Americans will just keep adjusting to a new way of life.

America is like 75% suburbs so the domestic situation will still maintain itself.

The Ghetto is a separate issue but black Americans hope Obama is waiting for term 2 to address that.
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 07 Sep 2012 20:12 #19

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The empire building and international terrorism could be a thing of the past..imo

Not seeing any evidence of that: on the contray. :nono:
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Re: Obama speaks against the Military industrial complex at the DNC. 08 Sep 2012 03:09 #20

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mikey mikey wrote:
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The empire building and international terrorism could be a thing of the past..imo

Not seeing any evidence of that: on the contray. :nono:

Agreed, war is terrorism.
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