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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 28 Oct 2012 08:52 #61

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I dunno, I get the feeling their version of God favours men. So if you happen to get raped, you should be relaxing & enjoying it, and the fact that your body hasn't gone into auto-sterilisation mode proves you wanted it anyway (you whore!) so it's not legitimate rape (you liar!).

I should think that when I was raped by 2 strangers at the age of 20, that would have fallen into the 'easy rape' category. I didn't put up much of a fight, after all. Couldn't - the wankers had slipped something in my drink, and I didn't know what planet I was on! I had periods of being aware of my surroundings and what was going on, but not comprehending it, and I couldn't remember how to move or speak.

Thank fuck, I wasn't blessed with God's wonderful gift of human life, or any STD's, as a result!

These people are as immoral as they are irrational.

I think if you retaliated, any action you took would probably be deemed as the Devil's work. If so, in any of their imaginary rape scenarios, I reckon I'm on the Devil's side.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 28 Oct 2012 15:09 #62

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All I can say, Gilly, is that it's incredibly hard for me to understand the mentality of someone who'd rape another person, and equally difficult for me to understand someone who'd explain it away and almost condone it, just so that they can buttress their own belief system.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 28 Oct 2012 15:39 #63

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Yeah, you can't afford to let your guard down too much, as there are plenty of sick bastards knocking around. :mad:
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 28 Oct 2012 22:24 #64

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I was just browsing for some funny pictures to post in the other section when by some bizarre coincidence I came across this...

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LMFAO!!!
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 30 Oct 2012 19:25 #65

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There seem to be some strange attitudes held by politicians & law makers in the States towards - well a lot of things really - but certainly including rape victims.

Pennsylvania Bill Would Reduce Welfare Benefits For Women Who Cannot Prove They Were Raped
By Tara Culp-Ressler on Oct 24, 2012 at 3:35 pm

A Pennsylvania House bill seeks to limit the amount of TANF assistance that low-income women receive based on the amount of children they give birth to while covered under the program.

Despite the fact that low-income women who give birth to children would logically need increased assistance to care for their larger family, Pennsylvania lawmakers — State Reps. RoseMarie Swanger (R), Tom Caltagirone (D), Mark Gillen (R), Keith Gillespie (R), Adam Harris (R), and Mike Tobash (R) — don’t want their state’s welfare program to provide additional benefits for that newborn. If a woman gives birth to a child who was conceived from rape, she may seek an exception to this rule so that her welfare benefits aren’t slashed, but only if she can provide proof that she reported her sexual assault and her abuser’s identity to the police:
In determining the amount of assistance payments to a recipient family of benefits under the Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) Program, the department shall revise the schedule of benefits to be paid to the recipient family by eliminating the increment in benefits under the program for which that family would otherwise be eligible as a result of the birth of a child conceived during the period in which the family is eligible for benefits under the TANF Program. [...]

Elimination of benefits under subsection (d) shall not apply to any child conceived as a result of rape or incest if the department: (1) receives a non-notarized, signed statement from the pregnant woman stating that she was a victim of rape or incest, as the case may be, and that she reported the crime, including the identity of the offender, if known, to a law enforcement agency having the requisite jurisdiction or, in the case of incest where a pregnant minor is the victim, to the county child protective service agency and stating the name of the law enforcement agency or child protective service agency to which the report was made and the date such report was made.

The language of the bill goes on to note that a sexual assault victim applying for an exemption will be required to sign a statement affirming she understands that “false reports to law enforcement authorities are punishable by law,” and stipulates that Pennsylvania will report any “evidence of false statements or fraud” to the correct department, all the way up to the Attorney General’s office.

Aside from punishing women who have children — particularly low-income women who may not have reliable access to affordable contraception — the proposed bill perpetrates a dangerous attitude toward survivors of sexual assault. Forcing women to prove the legitimacy of their sexual assault, and warning them about the serious consequences of “crying rape” to cheat the system, puts forth the misguided assumption that victims of sexual violence are not to be believed. Furthermore, countless women choose not to report their rapists to the police because they fear repercussions from their abusers, who could threaten their lives. An estimated 54 percent of sexual assaults are not reported to the authorities.

This is not the first type of legislation of its kind. Last month, New Mexico proposed a bill that would have required women seeking childcare assistance to prove they were “forcibly raped,” although Gov. Susana Martinez (R) has requested to remove that language.

(HT: Donnie Johnson)


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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 30 Oct 2012 19:52 #66

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I wonder what these idiots behind the moronic statements would make of being raped themselves.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 30 Oct 2012 20:03 #67

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I'd like to think they might get the opportunity at some point to experience it first hand, from a victims point of view. :mad:
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 30 Oct 2012 20:06 #68

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Gilly wrote:
I'd like to think they might get the opportunity at some point to experience it first hand, from a victims point of view. :mad:

Would that qualify as "legitimate" or is a new category of "educational" needed? :mad:
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 30 Oct 2012 23:29 #69

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A Polish teenager who became pregnant after rape should have had unhindered access to an abortion, the European Court of Human Rights has ruled.

The girl, who was then 14, was forced to have a clandestine abortion after harassment from pro-life groups led to her being turned away from hospitals.

The court ordered the Polish state to pay the teenager and her mother 61,000 euros (£49,000) in compensation.

Poland's abortion law is among the strictest in Europe.

Terminations are only permitted in cases of rape, incest or when the life of the mother or foetus is in danger.
'Manipulated and helpless'

The unnamed teenager at the centre of this court case became pregnant in 2008 after she was raped at the age of 14.

In accordance with the law, she got a certificate from the public prosecutor confirming that her pregnancy was as a result of unlawful sexual intercourse.

The girl, named only as "P" went to two different hospitals with her mother in her hometown of Lublin in south-east Poland to try and obtain an abortion.
Polish feminists hold placards reading "Cut the Cord" (between the State and the Church) and "Enough exploitation, we quit!" March 2012 Pro-choice Poles want the Catholic Church to have less influence over abortion law

At one, a Roman Catholic priest attempted to convince her to have the child. Hospital management then issued a press release saying they would not perform the procedure, leading to her case becoming caught up in Poland's ongoing debate about abortion.

The girl then travelled to a hospital in Warsaw, but doctors there said they were under pressure not to go ahead with the procedure.

The court documents say the pair left the hospital "feeling manipulated and helpless", after which they were harassed by pro-life groups and eventually taken in for several hours of police questioning.

The authorities then accused the mother of trying to force her daughter into having an abortion and had "P" placed in a juvenile shelter.

She eventually managed to go ahead with the termination in Gdansk, 500km from her home, after the Ministry of Health intervened in the case.

In their ruling, which is subject to appeal, a panel of judges at the European Court of Human Rights found that there had been numerous breaches of the girl's rights.

The court found that she should gave had unhindered access to lawful abortion and that the details of her case should not have been made public by hospital authorities.

The BBC's Adam Easton in Warsaw says that Poland's abortion law is unlikely to become more liberal soon.

Poland's Catholic church is fiercely opposed to any attempts to ease the restrictions and a majority of mainstream politicians support the status quo.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20143558
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 31 Oct 2012 18:36 #70

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oioioi wrote:
I wonder what these idiots behind the moronic statements would make of being raped themselves.

Finding it relaxing and enjoyable?

Or

Feeling terrified and in physical and emotional pain?
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 03 Nov 2012 23:27 #71

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
All I can say, Gilly, is that it's incredibly hard for me to understand the mentality of someone who'd rape another person, and equally difficult for me to understand someone who'd explain it away and almost condone it, just so that they can buttress their own belief system.

I'm totally with you on that WUB.

I think these public all boy elite schools have a lot to answer for with their nancy boy ways and initiations. Too many of them go into politics and public services for my liking. And are corrupted to fuck.
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