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Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 11:06 #1

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Republican US candidate Richard Mourdock actually said the following.
"And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20054737

If that's what he thinks is ok to say in public, just imagine what his private thoughts are. :mad:
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 11:11 #2

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Sickening :mad:

These horrible bastards are running the world.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 11:40 #3

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:suicide: :facepalm: Absolute Scumbag :goodbad:
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 12:13 #4

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That seems a really odd thing for anybody to say. :conf:

I wonder if, instead of meaning to approve of rape as such, he's maybe just some idiot, who meant to say something comforting about the poor little innocent babies who might be born from that scenario? :dunno:

They're kind of born into stigma through no fault of their own. Perhaps that was what he was trying to address, but in an ambiguous and stupid way.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 12:14 #5

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guy is a dick, but you know what.. theres some people believe that stuff. yet its supposed to be separation of church and state here.
also there is the i dont like what you say but defend your right to say it.
see what happens, there's plenty of fuss kicked up about this, it probably ruined his 'career'. maybe its part of gods plan for everyone to despise politicians.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 13:20 #6

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He wasn't trying to say aomething comforting Gilly. Some of the Republicans are right wing nut jobs. Todd Akin a nominee for Senate, Missouri, publicly said this on TV...
'First of all, from what I understand from doctors, (pregnancy from rape) is really rare,' the GOP stalwart told KTVI-TV.

'If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.'

And there's this...
A television ad in the 18th state Senate district race jars viewers with a chilling scene: A police officer knocks at a door and confronts a distraught couple sitting on a sofa.

"Women who have miscarriages could be investigated by police," the narrator says, and the words "Miscarriages investigated" appear on the screen.

www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/...nvestigation-under-/

Read this death penalty for rebellious children stuff

www.ibtimes.com/death-penalty-rebellious...a-endorses-it-843523
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 14:06 #7

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Er, what does he mean by 'legitimate rape'?
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 14:11 #8

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I think he means legitimate as in the woman didn't do anything to 'deserve' it like drink, wear nice clothes, engage in polite conversation with the rapist or leave the kitchen.

Are you American Space Bandit? Are there people in the US that actually agree with these people and want to vote for them? If there are, it's too shocking for words.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 14:17 #9

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:

Read this death penalty for rebellious children stuff

www.ibtimes.com/death-penalty-rebellious...a-endorses-it-843523

“The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21:

This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. They must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children. I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death. Why is this so? Other than the love Christ has for us, there is no greater love then [sic] that of a parent for their child. The last people who would want to see a child put to death would be the parents of the child. Even so, the Scripture provides a safe guard to protect children from parents who would wrongly exercise the death penalty against them. Parents are required to bring their children to the gate of the city. The gate of the city was the place where the elders of the city met and made judicial pronouncements. In other words, the parents were required to take their children to a court of law and lay out their case before the proper judicial authority, and let the judicial authority determine if the child should be put to death. I know of many cases of rebellious children, however, I cannot think of one case where I believe that a parent had given up on their child to the point that they would have taken their child to a court of law and asked the court to rule that the child be put to death. Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.

Wow.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 14:35 #10

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Oh, cheers Lesley - I hadn't realised it was that head case. There was a thread here before I think about his, "legitimate rape" BS. What an abhorrent little maggot! There's lot of them about.

Crikey - death for rebellious children! :O

Which one of us would still be alive?
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 14:48 #11

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Gilly wrote:
Oh, cheers Lesley - I hadn't realised it was that head case. There was a thread here before I think about his, "legitimate rape" BS. What an abhorrent little maggot! There's lot of them about.

Crikey - death for rebellious children! :O

Which one of us would still be alive?

They're not the same people, but they are all Republicans. I'm not sure how US politics works, but I think they are basically all members of the same party if you see what I mean. Some nut job wants to investigate miscarriages and charge women if they have done anything that might have caused it.

Do you think we'll ever get politicians saying stuff like this in the UK?

I'd like to hear from US members about this btw.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 15:04 #12

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Gilly wrote:
Oh, cheers Lesley - I hadn't realised it was that head case. There was a thread here before I think about his, "legitimate rape" BS. What an abhorrent little maggot! There's lot of them about.

Crikey - death for rebellious children! :O

Which one of us would still be alive?

They're not the same people, but they are all Republicans. I'm not sure how US politics works, but I think they are basically all members of the same party if you see what I mean. Some nut job wants to investigate miscarriages and charge women if they have done anything that might have caused it.

Do you think we'll ever get politicians saying stuff like this in the UK?

I'd like to hear from US members about this btw.

Gotchya.

Not unless they wish to be rugby-tackled to the ground and get the snot kicked out of them, I wouldn't have thought.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 15:12 #13

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Gilly wrote:
LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Gilly wrote:
Oh, cheers Lesley - I hadn't realised it was that head case. There was a thread here before I think about his, "legitimate rape" BS. What an abhorrent little maggot! There's lot of them about.

Crikey - death for rebellious children! :O

Which one of us would still be alive?

They're not the same people, but they are all Republicans. I'm not sure how US politics works, but I think they are basically all members of the same party if you see what I mean. Some nut job wants to investigate miscarriages and charge women if they have done anything that might have caused it.

Do you think we'll ever get politicians saying stuff like this in the UK?

I'd like to hear from US members about this btw.

Gotchya.

Not unless they wish to be rugby-tackled to the ground and get the snot kicked out of them, I wouldn't have thought.

Yeah, I thought the Tories were bad, but these people are in another league entirely.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 15:28 #14

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Do you think we'll ever get politicians saying stuff like this in the UK?
I would never say never, but in the US you have the fundamentalist Christian right, the 'Bible Belt' that is still very influential. That's why you see Bill Hicks railing against it in his material so much. Then can say stuff like this because they know it plays okay with a core following. I don't think the same thing can be said in Britain.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 15:37 #15

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While I have to disagree with "God's plan" part... I have to agree that a life created in rape is still an innocent life worth living. I'm pro-life, no if ands or buts about it...every child deserves a chance to experience life, and two wrongs don't make a right. Even if it came down to my life or the life of a child I carried, I'd risk mine to give it a chance. Life begins at conception as far as I am concerned.

However... if he implies that "rape" is a good thing and something that's meant to happen, I am gonna have to beat him :coffee:
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 17:58 #16

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I can name 1 guy off DIF straight off the bat who actually approves of this kind of thing.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 18:30 #17

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
I think he means legitimate as in the woman didn't do anything to 'deserve' it like drink, wear nice clothes, engage in polite conversation with the rapist or leave the kitchen.

Are you American Space Bandit? Are there people in the US that actually agree with these people and want to vote for them? If there are, it's too shocking for words.

Am I Buxton American!
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Though yeh, there are obviously people dumb enough to vote for these fuckwits.
There is no such thing as 'legitimate rape'. The guy is obviously a total fucking cock.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 18:32 #18

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I can name 1 guy off DIF straight off the bat who actually approves of this kind of thing.

I know who you mean.
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 18:37 #19

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andyh wrote:
I can name 1 guy off DIF straight off the bat who actually approves of this kind of thing.

I know who you mean.
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LOL! :D
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Re: Apparently Rape is part of God's plan 27 Oct 2012 18:43 #20

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StarsChildren wrote:
While I have to disagree with "God's plan" part... I have to agree that a life created in rape is still an innocent life worth living. I'm pro-life, no if ands or buts about it...every child deserves a chance to experience life, and two wrongs don't make a right. Even if it came down to my life or the life of a child I carried, I'd risk mine to give it a chance. Life begins at conception as far as I am concerned.

However... if he implies that "rape" is a good thing and something that's meant to happen, I am gonna have to beat him :coffee:

There's nothing wrong with being pro-life Star. He's a penis because he thinks that women can stop themselves getting pregnant if a rape's legitimate. That 'if' is the important part. Who the fuck is he to sit there and make judgements about whether or not a rape is legitimate? All rapes are legitimate ffs, and there's no scientific evidence at all to suggest that women can shut their bodies down and stop themselves getting pregnant is they're raped. It's an absolute nonsense. :facepalm: :axe: :villagers:

Andy, who is it?
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