I can see why we have an age of consent although personally I would like to see it raised to 18 with a certain amount of 'grey' to it whereby those aged 14+ having sex with others of the same or very similar age not prosecuted.

For me this story provokes exactly the same reaction it would were the gender roles reversed. They are an 'authority figure' for those they slept with and therefore are abusing their position. That is the worrying aspect and why it was abusive.

Teens do think about and desire to have sex - i am unsure of the percentages but from memory of those distant times the majority of my friends certainly did feel ready before that magic 16th birthday - sex with someone roughly your own age both physically and emotionally is far more equal.

I feel really strongly that adults really should know better - particularly when there is no doubt whatsoever about the age - which there would not have been as the adult in question worked at the school the boys attended.

thoreau wrote: That's like enforced equality though imo Thor, exclusively same age sex is probably pretty rare in natural human collectives.
I think adults do know better, I think we have this innaccurate assumption that a sexual relationship between someone older and someone of 16 or younger has to involve some kind of aggression, exploitation or cruelty on the part of the older person, I don't deny this does happen, but i don't think it's particularly accurate to just assume all Older and Younger sexual encounters are like that.

In a lot of ways a think an older man is probably more equipped to give a younger girl a pleasant experience, than perhaps a young man her own age who only knows about sex through Pornography and thinks anal dp is normal?


I think if you consider where most 14-17 yr old males are at psycho-sexually in their understanding of anatomy, intimacy, sensuality etc, then an older women could be a very positive influence, i think the Greeks Aristotle and the Gymnasium advocates had a similar idea, tbh what she's done will probably only have positive effects.

Guevarista wrote:
15 year old boys are not the masters of sex, mate. In the main I think you'll find that a woman would prefer a more experienced sexual partner. When you get older and meet some women I'm sure they'll be able to confirm that for you.

What makes it a story is that she was in a position of trust and she has broken the law. Whether we think the law is correct or not is another matter.

I think that the parents should have the say as to when they're kids are taught about sex. If I was a parent I wouldn't be happy if the decison to educate them about sex was taken out of my hands.
But at least you've given me the chance to post some Monty Python.

Guevarista wrote:
The part you bolded was more a statement about what I view to be the ideal - I added emotional as well as physiological as a reflection that the two things do not always coincide - one 14 year old may be far more emotionally mature than another for example.

I do not advocate enforced equality rather I think that having sex with someone who is your equal in emotional maturity and life experience can lead to better sex. For me sex is not only physical it is also emotional - back in the day when i was a bit of a whore bag the difference in the experiences I had was unbelievable - it may have just been me but the number of men who say they want a one night stand and then do not fuck off afterwards is astounding - not to mention annoying. I have had great sex and awful sex - exploitative and incredibly loving.

I also think that the only way to be good in bed is through communication without sufficient communication you can be technically amazing but emotionally lacking apparently.... or vice versa and in order to communicate what you want you need to know it - which only comes with insight and emotional maturity.

So.... a 45 year old may have the emotional maturity and insight needed to be able to communicate their needs effectively - but I would argue that no matter how mature a 14 - 16 year old is their ability do communicate and identify their own needs will not be the same.

thoreau wrote:
Not just you... its more common that a woman gets "clingy" but the number of men that do it too is amazing. Even if you don't leave your number with them, are gone before they wake up, etc... if they see you in public or know anyone you know, you're screwed. And friends with benefits does not work with women (or men) who can't separate their vagina (dick) from their heart. Yeah, sometimes you meet someone you have a connection with that way, but it's gotta be reciprocated, not just one constantly bugging the other.

Agree with the rest of what you said, so not even gonna comment on it

StarsChildren wrote:
clingy men is far more common then is admitted to in my experience - I think that in todays world people are so desperate to make a 'connection' with someone many will sleep around or get infatuated with someone they have had a one night stand with even if it is blatantly obvious that a relationship would never work between the two. There is also so much hype surrounding how relationships or sex should be that it is next to impossible to live up to it. I know mr thoreau loves me but he aint gonna be hauling a dining table, chairs, 3 course meal and 2000 lit candles up to a roof top in order to show it!! and nor should he be expected to utterly bonkers what we 'buy' into and expect of each other.

thoreau wrote:
That bold bit made me laugh... and if a woman/man actually did that I'd probably smack 'em upside the head for it and ask if they were on stupid pills.

Agreed again... connections don't come with everyone ya meet, however every once in a great while you will make one (sometimes with the wrong person, or the right person at the wrong time). Most of it though is probably due to the "want" on both parties ends, IMO. They want it so bad they grit their teeth and deal with how its not working to pretend that it is working. A connection is great and all, but if you two have loads in common, are good friends, can match each other outside the bedroom (as well as in), why ruin it by forcing a "connection"?

Okay, done rambling again...

What's the big deal about sleeping with someone more experienced anyways?

I think there's too much of this fretting over 'technique' - it's surprising anyone can manage to get it on at all with that kind of mind-set. You just do it, & you'll pretty soon find out what's good & what your partner likes - spontaneity & wild abandon are right. Worrying as if there'll be a row of judges holding up score cards at the end is wrong.

Leave it to you Gilly to point out what is staring us all in the face... judges and score cards lmao, good one.

Although in some societies there might be...you know those ones where the entire family stands at the bedside while you do it the first time

I always thought I had to give a woman multiple orgasms, and last for hours, the very first time we got intimate

It's just the media lying and fucking things up as usual, and porn...feeding people shit, and the thick bastards opening their mouths eagerly for the next spoonful.

It seems to be all about sport fucking these days.

I'm happier alone, fuck people

Irr... dude... giving a woman multiple orgasms is never a bad goal to have. We appreciate it it gets boring giving ourselves those after a while, specially when we have to wait for the guy to go to sleep so we can sneak off and finish up without him. So if you are capable, which by other things I've read from you, you are...do it, don't give up!

It is a good goal to have Stars, just not on the first night

I remember my ex...I always made sure she had at least one orgasm before I got down to thinking about doing anything else...anyway, one night I took care of myself first, then wanted to just go to sleep she then pouted and demanded an orgasm That put to bed any subconscious fears I might have had about her faking it

Anyway, a lot of bullshit and utterly ridiculous expectations seem to revolve around sex these days, for men and women. Fuck it, too much hassle. I'll remain single and do my own shit until a woman appears and knocks my socks off

Communication is the key, like thor said. Seems some women these days expect to just lie there and wait for the man to do every fucking thing

irrepressible wrote:
I wish most men these days can't even figure out where the damn thing goes, so we are forced to communicate with them just to make sure they get it in the right hole

Leading cause of lesbianism... men with far too few braincells

this is a not a jab at you or any other man on here, just men in general, even tho I suspect some of the penis owners here need a little guidance as well

There's nothing wrong with asking the lady to "guide me in" especially if she's a new lady. After a few days/nights I'm fully familiar with her bits and can guide myself in easily Some women's bits are angled differently to others.

It's not easy in the dark

and for some it ain't easy in the light either... how can you men not tell a mouth or ass from a pussy? Seriously, take an anatomy class or something!

And yes... *begins pouting* there is something wrong with asking to be guided in *tears begin leaking out* what if we just wanna lay there and do nothing *sniffles* just to see what your bringing to the table in offer!

Bringing to the table? And there is the pressure right there "I'm going to lie here and you're going to rock my world" Or some bullshit like that

My new attitude with women is along the lines of you entertain me

Women can be shit in bed as well

how dare you say some women suck in bed? some women just downright don't know wtf their doing either! it's worse than sucking

Yeah, that's basically my view towards men now... I'm done getting on my knees and entertaining them, show me what you got!

I'd like to see that actually happen "rock my world while I take a nap, please"

Back on topic: she deserves punishment and whether or not that means the same level of punishment as a male teacher is a linked matter but still does not alter the fact that she exploited the trust implicit in her position.

That should tell what kind of person she is and therefore what sort of influence she has had.

And will have unless she is punished.

Trust is key to certain prodessions: nursing, policing, teaching.

You take on that responsibility when you take on the job.

Agreed Mikey, she should face some punishment (as anyone else would) for exploiting her position and the trust put in her...




but damn you, we almost had this thread derailed into yet another useless sex crazed thread