It's getting ridiculous,genuine people who are suffering illnesses who take medication getting turned down for benefits where as non ill people who are working getting accepted for sickness benefits.

Ive seen incidents of the fraudulent claimers driving around in flash high powered pimped up cars,where as the genuine people suffering illnesses can't even afford the bus.

humanspirit wrote:
Its the same here too cunts who play the system, get away with murder walk all over each other for an extra 50c ,cunts make you sick......

It's just a microcosm of the corrupt world in which we live. The real corrupt ones prefer it if we have a blinkered enough view to blame those worse off than ourselves within our own microcosm rather than the real "benefit cheats", those that cheat for the greatest benefit.

The entire edifice of the society and culture within which we reside is based on corruption and exploitation. This is just the latest 'everything is rigged' article by Matt Taibbi:

www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taib...-currencies-20130613

When there is such massive economic and financial manipulation which impacts upon everyone on the planet, and the perpetrators suffer literally no negative consequences whatsoever, then it's going to be reflected at the everyday, micro-level of society sooner or later.

Don't get me wrong usually i focus on the bigger picture,the big time fraudsters but it's just so in your face and wrong.

I am sure with all the privatisation going on people are paying bribes to get certain things from housing to benefits.

Aren't they supposed to be cracking down on all people claiming sickness/disability benefits? I wonder how these fraudsters manage to slip through the net.

My friend who works for the DSS was doing budgeting loans, but they have been stopped. She now does ESA appeals and she says people have to see doctors and attend interviews and appointments.

I think she's been Common Purposed during her ESA appeal training. She is adamant that these benefit reforms give more help and support to sick and disabled people than the previous system did.

LesleyPumpshaft wrote: I don't know how she can possibly claim that as it is emphatically not the case. Even if you just look at the basic legislation - which I have - it's quite clearly not the case, but there have been reports of people being told they're fit to work and dropping dead of their condition within ten days.

LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
From talking to various people i have found most genuine people are found fit for work and have to put in a lengthy appeal and many crooks/fraudsters are still claiming like the one i spoke to recently.

I would never rat on anybody though,i would rather come on here and whinge LOL.

There seems to be some really bizarre fascist psycho mindset that if you work on the side they will let you claim but if your genuinely unable to work they stop your money.

It's very strange WUB, because she is a lovely lass, she's pretty clued up and she has a good head on her shoulders. It makes me wonder whether they used some funky NLP techniques during the ESA training. Now I sound like a conspiracy theorist. Stranger things have happened though.

Humanspirit, do you think that this is intentional then? Maybe they want to create hate figures for Daily Fail type propaganda. Then they can demonstrate how all these sick people are really just malingering gits.

LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Obviously not as clued up as you thought lp :p

LesleyPumpshaft wrote: I'm not sure about that, but there's a lot of basic coercion that goes on in these places, pretty much in every work environment now. Employers can walk all over people now, you can't even get legal aid for a tribunal, and there are always 100 people (at least) ready to walk into your job. And in most workplaces, people that you work with get confused and accidentally stab you in the front rather than the back. Some people just find it easier to buy into the prevailing ethos than fight a losing battle.

People with pimped up cars must be up to something other than claiming benefits they're not that good unless I've missed something!

LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
If you want to keep the minimum wage low you've got to keep unemployment high, if you want to keep unemployment high you have gotta make it attractive to some in the same way you have to make being a trained nationalist killing machine (I believe the euphemism is 'soldier') attractive too.

Space Bandit wrote:
The people i am referring to also work.

Another fruitcake who was working but his Mrs had been claiming for years used to moan about people who didn't work.

I just don't understand these psycho's.

Edit-I don't actually care if people claim and work,it's just the fact that genuine people are turned down that annoys me.

humanspirit wrote:
yeh there's no justice in that sense... they are making it more difficult to scratch on though & they give you so much mither.... if people are earning money elsewhere at the same time at some point they're gonna think it's not worth it. I'd rather sell my stuff than scratch on I fucking hate it!


Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
*Leonard Cohen from the song.....'Everybody Knows Teh Joos Are Coming'

I've seen it ere, cunts cry hard up or committ minor crimes, do there community service at the salvation army cry hard up, the cunts get a food parcel and a fifty, dollar voucher , then the wankers go and spend the voucher on booze , cunts

And then they say crime and doesn't pay: like fuck it does

Fucking rednecks in small hick towns on the edge of a toiletbowl in the south pacific

What job do you do BC?

oioioi wrote:
I used to work in a sawmill, and worked in an abatoir (Freezing works) to us, now im just a poor student from a poor family

Black Cloud wrote:
Then your above stance seems a bit at odds.

"there but for the grace of..."

oioioi wrote:
odds at what, what with