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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 08 Feb 2014 18:04 #161

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listen the point i'm making with this thread is that everytime someone posts dr wood research info it always gets attacked...if its not the icke mods its others on that forum well in with them...and same applies to the UK 911 forum run by tony gosling..the biggest idiot in the truth scene
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 08 Feb 2014 18:12 #162

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Divide into mod paranoia & nonsense / Judy Wood.

Apologies for prior (apparent) vagueness. :cat:
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 08 Feb 2014 18:18 #163

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listen the point i'm making with this thread is that everytime someone posts dr wood research info it always gets attacked...if its not the icke mods its others on that forum well in with them...and same applies to the UK 911 forum run by tony gosling..the biggest idiot in the truth scene

People always attack each other on 9/11 threads, because they all think they're right, & get frustrated with each other.

Who the mods side with is more about their own personal beliefs on the subject, and who's in favour at the time, I reckon - it's not a reflection on what's right or that they've been instructed from above to push a particular view.

I wouldn't moderate them when I was there, because it was the same people arguing the same points over & over & over again, and just getting progressively more aggressive with each other as they failed to reach agreement .
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 08 Feb 2014 18:18 #164

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listen the point i'm making with this thread is that everytime someone posts dr wood research info it always gets attacked...if its not the icke mods its others on that forum well in with them...and same applies to the UK 911 forum run by tony gosling..the biggest idiot in the truth scene

I think it's because she's relying on Hutchinson's experiments as evidence, he's not qualified like Dr Wood is, and he can not replicate his results.
Also there is the YouTube footage where we can see the 'string'.

I think Hutchinson admitted he did that for a TV show as he can not always guarantee results, however it's makes him look like a crank.



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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 08 Feb 2014 19:16 #165

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listen the point i'm making with this thread is that everytime someone posts dr wood research info it always gets attacked...if its not the icke mods its others on that forum well in with them...and same applies to the UK 911 forum run by tony gosling..the biggest idiot in the truth scene

I haven't attacked it, so much as suggest the pointlessness of it all.
911 is itself merely a symptom of bigger issues, which will keep happening until they are addressed first.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 08 Feb 2014 20:05 #166

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It's sheer lunacy, you suggest microwaves and crowd control weaponry were used to bring down the towers.

Nothing you've posted would have that capability be serious, why do you think this is the more likely explanation?

Just a thought, but if stuff like this does exist, it will be highly militarised & classified.
They're hardly likely to be dishing it out in Poundland.
I don't think so I think it would be in use for purposes of national security, did you watch the video I posted above?
That's what the military are using now.


What makes you think that 9/11 wasn't carried out in the interests of national security?

Do remember that the latest weaponry you hear about was discovered some time ago. & in the meantime it has been classified by security stratification and compartmentalised. Any discovery like DEW would be highly classified & militarised first, especially if they planned on frying the towers with it. They're hardly likely to admit to having it then zap the towers leaving the evidence of what happens when that kind of force is used are they?
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 09 Feb 2014 07:34 #167

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It's sheer lunacy, you suggest microwaves and crowd control weaponry were used to bring down the towers.

Nothing you've posted would have that capability be serious, why do you think this is the more likely explanation?

Just a thought, but if stuff like this does exist, it will be highly militarised & classified.
They're hardly likely to be dishing it out in Poundland.
I don't think so I think it would be in use for purposes of national security, did you watch the video I posted above?
That's what the military are using now.


What makes you think that 9/11 wasn't carried out in the interests of national security?

Do remember that the latest weaponry you hear about was discovered some time ago. & in the meantime it has been classified by security stratification and compartmentalised. Any discovery like DEW would be highly classified & militarised first, especially if they planned on frying the towers with it. They're hardly likely to admit to having it then zap the towers leaving the evidence of what happens when that kind of force is used are they?

Don't expect to get any sense out him SB....
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I'd like to find out exactly how a hurricane can energise such a weapon, not some kind of this or that but exactly what or how, until this has been discovered it appears to be 'speculation'.

It's no good to say, some type of this or that generator, coil, without saying exactly what and how it would work.

I know weather manipulation is a fact sometimes, do we have any real evidence by experts or experienced people who have worked with such official investigations, that can provide evidence that hurricanes can be manipulated ?

I do take Dr Wood's points, surely we need to find out exactly what weapon & how the weather manipulation occurred, all we (Dr Wood) seems to know is that 'something' strange happened.

The question also remains that why, would the two towers need to be 'dustified' (for the want of a better term).
Is it because the collapse in the traditional sense would have broken the basin wall of the Hudson river, causing a huge flood?

I suggest this document be read by those interested. leostokes.wix.com/dustification-hints

I'm also aware that a poster named skulb has started a very good thread, on DIF about the 'drills' which appears to prove the possibility of an 'inside job'. www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248630

So the air force is lured away into drills & possibly confuses alerts of the real event as being part of the drills.
A hurricane is 'somehow' manipulated into place.
Two planes strike towers (mysterious flashes, possible attachment under one of the planes).
Within two hours towers turn to dust/deformed metal.

Just leaving the cars and other anomalies aside for now, why is it that we see a remaining part of steel structure 'turn to dust' it's been viewed by us all on YouTube I guess, yet other parts of metal structure are 'deformed'.

Has the towers been stuck twice, firstly by a dustification weapon and then by a metal deforming weapon or vice versa, or could it be the same weapon acting differently because of power surges

Could the hurricane have been used as a type of vacuum effect to drag away the effects of the said weapon, that could have remained in the area causing further damage after the towers were destroyed.

Another possible use of hurricane is that it would have caused the shipping to leave the dock.

''As Hurricane Sandy barrels up the coast, many in the United States hope the storm veers right and heads “safely out to sea”, but for a few people, there is nothing safe about this possibility.

When a hurricane approaches port, ship captains must make hard decisions about speed and direction of approaching storms. The worst place for a ship to find itself is in the eye of a major hurricane, but the second worst place is the harbor.

“The term Safe Harbor doesn’t pertain to storms the size of Hurricane Sandy,” says Captain John Konrad, who has experienced hurricanes first hand. “The safest place for a ship is out to sea and as far away from the storm as possible.”

Ships are built with hardened steel, but if left tied up to the dock, they can be easily damaged as waves push them against concrete pilings. If a ship were to break loose from the dock, it would turn into a floating wrecking ball''
www.forbes.com/sites/gcaptain/2012/10/29...-massive-hurricanes/

Can anyone think of a reason why tptb would want the ships/boats to leave the dock prior to the WTC 'attacks'?

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 09 Feb 2014 10:54 #169

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
I'd like to find out exactly how a hurricane can energise such a weapon, not some kind of this or that but exactly what or how, until this has been discovered it appears to be 'speculation'.

It's no good to say, some type of this or that generator, coil, without saying exactly what and how it would work.

I know weather manipulation is a fact sometimes, do we have any real evidence by experts or experienced people who have worked with such official investigations, that can provide evidence that hurricanes can be manipulated ?

It is speculation that energy can be harvested from hurricanes. Pure speculation.

Research has been released to show that a hurricanes strength can be lessened by introducing microwaves in to its eye
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Albuquerque, New Mexico - A blast of microwave energy beamed down from a space satellite could be used to tame the destructive nature of a tornado, a scientist said this week. Such weather-watching duty might be assigned to future solar power stations that would circle Earth.

Each year, about 1,200 tornadoes are reported in the US, according to the American Meteorological Society. An average of 55 people die annually as a result of twisters, and billions of dollars worth of property are destroyed or damaged. Their extremely high winds propel debris, destroy homes, collapse buildings and overturn vehicles. There is growing evidence that global warming may spawn increasing amounts of nasty weather, including tornadoes, at an even greater intensity in years to come.

But the tornado-nuking concept advocated here this week flies in the face of being at the mercy of Mother Nature’s fury. Called a Thunderstorm Solar Power Satellite, the concept was presented at the Space 2000 Conference and Exposition on Engineering, Construction, Operations and Business in Space, sponsored by the American Society of Civil Engineers. The proposal calls for beaming microwave energy into the cold, rainy downdraft of a thunderstorm where a tornado could originate. That pulse of power would disrupt the convective flow needed to concentrate energy that forms a tornado, said Bernard Eastlund, president of Eastlund Scientific Enterprises Corporation, based in San Diego, California. He has teamed up with Lyle Jenkins, a 37-year NASA veteran who now heads his own firm, Jenkins Enterprises in Houston, Texas. The two researchers envision surgical strikes of microwave energy that could modify the temperature and fine structure of storm systems.

"We call it taming the tornado," Jenkins said. "With just a little burst of microwave energy, we think we see a way to negate the trigger point in tornado creation. We want to heat the cold rain. By tailoring the beam, it can absorb the rain that is part of the tornado-making process." Eastlund has looked at data provided by the Advanced Regional Prediction System at the Center for Analysis and Prediction of Storms Center at the University of Oklahoma. These numerical simulation data were used to study the formation of conditions suitable for "tornado-genesis." And he and Jenkins used them to see the effects of zapping an incipient storm with electromagnetic radiation beamed from a proposed Thunderstorm Solar Power Satellite.

Another aspect of their proposal could address the need for orbiting Doppler radar that could see tornado conditions forming. These data would be fed into a tornado-stopping satellite, perhaps positioned in geosynchronous orbit above the areas most affected by severe weather. By using a specially-tuned microwave pulse, rather than laser or infrared beams, that energy can be targeted within a storm’s interior, not through it or reflected away. "You can’t wave your hands about this idea," Eastlund said. "You’ve got to use real numerical modelling. My research shows that by heating the falling rain, we can turn off the downdraft that drives a tornado." More research is needed, he said, to further determine just how much energy would yield a knockout punch to a tornado on the brew.

But is it nice to fool with Mother Nature? "This is a new science we’re talking about of weather modification...a new paradigm which seeks to mitigate these violent weather systems," Eastlund said. "If it does prove possible to prevent tornadoes," Eastlund continued, "then systems could be envisioned in which severe storm phenomena such as hurricanes and typhoons are also modified in some beneficial fashion, and weather modification could be routine in the 21st century."

Source: www.space.com 3 March 2000

The article is no longer available on space.com, much the same as an acrticle detailing how energy can be sent from solar panels on the moon via safe microwaves to the earth

www.space.com/search.php?cx=partner-pub-...ave+energy+hurricane
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I do take Dr Wood's points, surely we need to find out exactly what weapon & how the weather manipulation occurred, all we (Dr Wood) seems to know is that 'something' strange happened.

Trickier said than done, getting a top secret space weapon declassified to prove it was used in a false falg attack on 9/11.
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The question also remains that why, would the two towers need to be 'dustified' (for the want of a better term).
Is it because the collapse in the traditional sense would have broken the basin wall of the Hudson river, causing a huge flood?

Correct. My own study into wavelengths would suggest that dustification of connecting concrete would be a biproduct of an attack against the vertical core columns. The vertical core columns are the only piece of the structure that need to be removed to successfully bring it down by any means. Failure to remove the vast weight of such a building coming down from such a height would result in the total flooding of NYC via a destructed basin as you've said. Destruction via wavelength seems to be an optimum solution.
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So the air force is lured away into drills & possibly confuses alerts of the real event as being part of the drills.
A hurricane is 'somehow' manipulated into place.
Two planes strike towers (mysterious flashes, possible attachment under one of the planes).
Within two hours towers turn to dust/deformed metal.

Just leaving the cars and other anomalies aside for now, why is it that we see a remaining part of steel structure 'turn to dust' it's been viewed by us all on YouTube I guess, yet other parts of metal structure are 'deformed'.

This is to do with wavelengths and resonance. To destroy the vertical columns, the frequency used (type of wave) is directly related to the length and type of material it is connected to. Simplified, Its like this:

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Lets imagine that is a reconstruction of the steel core columns (there is no gap between the slashes, they are one straight vertical piece). The slashes represent the vertical columns connected by horizontal beams. The length of the vertical is far greater than the horizontal beams. If you cause the columns to vibrate to destruction based on their total length, the welds would sheer at the horizontal beems which would not destruct as they are not the same length as the vertical and won't be affected in the same way. The verticals would disappear and the rest would fall to the ground. The concrete would pulverise because the speed at which sound travels through concrete is the same as a half wave of steel. Other materials won't resonate unless their speeds are say a full, half, or quarter of that of steel so it won't affect water, or bodies etc in the same way as they won't resonate at the same frequency. If its close enough, as it would be with most steel, it will bend and such like, but because it isn't exactly "in tune" as it were, it won't vaporise.
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Has the towers been stuck twice, firstly by a dustification weapon and then by a metal deforming weapon or vice versa, or could it be the same weapon acting differently because of power surges

Same weapon, as described above
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Could the hurricane have been used as a type of vacuum effect to drag away the effects of the said weapon, that could have remained in the area causing further damage as it could have remained in the area after the towers were destroyed.

Introducing an EMF onto the site of WTC would cause the area's atmosphere to hold a charge (like it does prior to storms). If it was a positive charge, and the hurricane also had a positive charge (storms have charges as I say) they would repel each other. The two magnetic fields colliding is what caused the hurricane to divert in my opinion.
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Another possible use of hurricane is that it would have caused the shipping to leave the dock.

''As Hurricane Sandy barrels up the coast, many in the United States hope the storm veers right and heads “safely out to sea”, but for a few people, there is nothing safe about this possibility.

When a hurricane approaches port, ship captains must make hard decisions about speed and direction of approaching storms. The worst place for a ship to find itself is in the eye of a major hurricane, but the second worst place is the harbor.

“The term Safe Harbor doesn’t pertain to storms the size of Hurricane Sandy,” says Captain John Konrad, who has experienced hurricanes first hand. “The safest place for a ship is out to sea and as far away from the storm as possible.”

Ships are built with hardened steel, but if left tied up to the dock, they can be easily damaged as waves push them against concrete pilings. If a ship were to break loose from the dock, it would turn into a floating wrecking ball''
www.forbes.com/sites/gcaptain/2012/10/29...-massive-hurricanes/

Can anyone think of a reason why tptb would want the ships to leave the dock prior to the WTC 'attacks'?

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 09 Feb 2014 11:34 #170

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Thanks for your responses SilvaRizla.

Do you view this articles/blog and did you see the steel structure get dusted on 'stage one' of the article/blog in slow motion?
leostokes.wix.com/dustification-hints
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 09 Feb 2014 12:11 #171

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Thanks for your responses SilvaRizla.

Do you view this articles/blog and did you see the steel structure get dusted on 'stage one' of the article/blog in slow motion?
leostokes.wix.com/dustification-hints

It didn't get dusted (I've posted this video earlier) but it did crumble. I believe what happened was that the structure was quite close to being "in tune" and its bonds had been weakened as a result of the EMF targeting the inner columns. It failed to support its own weight after being interfered with and then crumbled from the ground up ;)
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 09 Feb 2014 12:26 #172

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Same principal but using much more power (louder/quicker destruction) and different material.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 09 Feb 2014 15:17 #173

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Nikola Tesla, one of the most incredible inventors of all time, developed this 'directed energy technology' in the early 1900's. He created one device, about this size of a pack of cigarettes, which nearly brought down a New York highrise before he reportedly smashed it with a hammer to stop the vibrational
energy which was beginning to shatter the building.

In fact, many major technologies currently being used today were invented by Tesla including alternating current, light bulbs, robotics etc. etc. Tesla also invented an advanced technology to provide Free Energy to the entire planet, anywhere, and mainly for this reason the "powers that be" eliminated Tesla's name from history books.

It's not difficult to understand how 'they' wouldn't permit Free Energy to power the planet. Can you imagine a world, where OIL, HYDRO ELECTRIC ENERGY AND NUCLEAR ENERGY would be obsolete and no longer necessary as a major energy source?

Tesla wanted to give his free energy technology to the world, and for this reason all his funding was cut off by JP Morgan, Westinghouse and others, and he was never permitted to be recognized for his monumental achievements. The New World Order prefers that no one know that Tesla ever existed, so they can withhold this incredible technology from the People.

After Tesla died, the U.S.and Russia raced to confiscate all of Tesla's papers. Within his writings and drawings was the secret of energy technology...unlimited power which could clearly be used to dominate the world if it wound up in the wrong hands.

This amazing technology can also be used to heal people from many diseases, simply and for pennies. (So can such energy theoretically be used to induce disease in masses of people.) The current ultra-billion dollar medical-pharmaceutical industry would not be thrilled about Tesla's technology being used to replace their primitive but fantastically-profitable industries. So, human beings are forced to continue to suffer from diseases that can be easily and successfully treated using Tesla's technology. Sounds too good to be true? It's not.

Directed energy can also be used in an EVIL WAY and has the potential to cause huge amounts of damage by using weather as a Weapon of Mass Destruction. This technology exists now. {see links below}. In fact, some government officials have tried in vain to get a law on the books that says that directed energy Weapons cannot be used by any Nation to manipulate weather to be used as a "weapon" Unfortunately, the US, Russia and Japan - and possibly other nations - have been pursuing the use of
advanced energy technology to control the weather.

Can this energy weapon be used to 'steer' hurricanes? Someone should seriously check it out. The US Air Force official policy is to completely control the weather by 2025. And the evidence points
to substantial progress already having been made.
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911 - Cheney Vice President Orders - Norman Mineta is ... - YouTube


2/4/2012 -
Courtesy: Norman Mineta [US Secretary for Transport on 911-2001] ...
A love letter to the NSA agent who is monitoring my online activity. :D


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chandrakavi wrote:
911 - Cheney Vice President Orders - Norman Mineta is ... - YouTube


2/4/2012 -
Courtesy: Norman Mineta [US Secretary for Transport on 911-2001] ...

Thanks chand, not seen that before.

Bit sceptical to be honest. Where it cut to black and said "he said this: blah blah". Well, if that's what he's said, why the need to tell us that's what he said? You've got him on video saying it, why not let him say it? :conf:
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Here is Norman Mineta, Secretary of Transportation before the 9/11 Comission answering questions,



911 Commission - Trans. Sec Norman Mineta Testimony - YouTube



911 Commission - Trans. Sec Norman Mineta Testimony ...
A love letter to the NSA agent who is monitoring my online activity. :D


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Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2020 - May 2021, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 250 GBP )
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$ 192 - Raised
( £ 140 GBP )
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56%
Most Recent Donation:
$122 USD on 4th Jan 2021
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Ethereum Address: 0xe69915c80dd75df19f438d556267e04f932f057d
 
More Info: Donation options for TZ

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.

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