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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 00:20 #181

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Thanks for your responses SilvaRizla.

Do you view this articles/blog and did you see the steel structure get dusted on 'stage one' of the article/blog in slow motion?
leostokes.wix.com/dustification-hints

It didn't get dusted (I've posted this video earlier) but it did crumble. I believe what happened was that the structure was quite close to being "in tune" and its bonds had been weakened as a result of the EMF targeting the inner columns. It failed to support its own weight after being interfered with and then crumbled from the ground up ;)

Is there any evidence that electromagnetic fields/forces can damage or weaken steel?
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 07:09 #182

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Thanks for your responses SilvaRizla.

Do you view this articles/blog and did you see the steel structure get dusted on 'stage one' of the article/blog in slow motion?
leostokes.wix.com/dustification-hints

It didn't get dusted (I've posted this video earlier) but it did crumble. I believe what happened was that the structure was quite close to being "in tune" and its bonds had been weakened as a result of the EMF targeting the inner columns. It failed to support its own weight after being interfered with and then crumbled from the ground up ;)

Is there any evidence that electromagnetic fields/forces can damage or weaken steel?

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Yes.

Well no, its not the EMF, the EMF is just a biproduct of the current and the wave.

Laser engravers for instance, wavelengths damaging steel.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 10:01 #183

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Thanks for your responses SilvaRizla.

Do you view this articles/blog and did you see the steel structure get dusted on 'stage one' of the article/blog in slow motion?
leostokes.wix.com/dustification-hints

It didn't get dusted (I've posted this video earlier) but it did crumble. I believe what happened was that the structure was quite close to being "in tune" and its bonds had been weakened as a result of the EMF targeting the inner columns. It failed to support its own weight after being interfered with and then crumbled from the ground up ;)

Is there any evidence that electromagnetic fields/forces can damage or weaken steel?

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Yes.

Well no, its not the EMF, the EMF is just a biproduct of the current and the wave.

Laser engravers for instance, wavelengths damaging steel.

I have been snooping about at the available information on DARPA's webpage, I could not see anything about such a DEW.
I know that if it's Top Secret it won't be published, the problem we have here is a bit like a crime scene lacking evidence.

I'm using buildings and common gunshot murder as an analogy. I don't mean to discredit the real human victims.

1) There are the victims = Towers.
2) Evidence of firearm discharge found during forensic analysis.
3) No weapon located or identified.
4) No ammunition located or identified.
5) No culprits identified.
6) No location of crime scene positioning of culprits.
7) No witnesses nor potential witnesses identified.
8) No identification or knowledge of speculated weaponry, only estimations of what could have been used.

I do agree that Dr Wood's proposals are possible, it does seem to be a theory based on constructing the evidence of what 'could have done this' rather than what did do this, as nobody knows.

There is no evidence that such a weapon exists and if so, what the exact effects would be, so what Dr Wood has been able to do is to identify that an unidentified weapon caused this atrocity even though we don't know what it is or if it exists.

Would it not be as plausible to state that the aeroplanes did not really exist and that they were a projection from a 3D hologram laser that is top secret thus we don't know it exists, but that would explain a lot of the inconsistent evidence about the aeroplanes, they way they were maneuvered, the flashes of light, the ease of penetration, etc..... etc.....?

It's a bit like explaining something that we know about by using something that we don't know about.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 11:18 #184

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Thanks for your responses SilvaRizla.

Do you view this articles/blog and did you see the steel structure get dusted on 'stage one' of the article/blog in slow motion?
leostokes.wix.com/dustification-hints

It didn't get dusted (I've posted this video earlier) but it did crumble. I believe what happened was that the structure was quite close to being "in tune" and its bonds had been weakened as a result of the EMF targeting the inner columns. It failed to support its own weight after being interfered with and then crumbled from the ground up ;)

Is there any evidence that electromagnetic fields/forces can damage or weaken steel?

:conf:

Yes.

Well no, its not the EMF, the EMF is just a biproduct of the current and the wave.

Laser engravers for instance, wavelengths damaging steel.

I have been snooping about at the available information on DARPA's webpage, I could not see anything about such a DEW.
I know that if it's Top Secret it won't be published, the problem we have here is a bit like a crime scene lacking evidence.

I'm using buildings and common gunshot murder as an analogy. I don't mean to discredit the real human victims.

1) There are the victims = Towers.
2) Evidence of firearm discharge found during forensic analysis.
3) No weapon located or identified.
4) No ammunition located or identified.
5) No culprits identified.
6) No location of crime scene positioning of culprits.
7) No witnesses nor potential witnesses identified.
8) No identification or knowledge of speculated weaponry, only estimations of what could have been used.

I do agree that Dr Wood's proposals are possible, it does seem to be a theory based on constructing the evidence of what 'could have done this' rather than what did do this, as nobody knows.

There is no evidence that such a weapon exists and if so, what the exact effects would be, so what Dr Wood has been able to do is to identify that an unidentified weapon caused this atrocity even though we don't know what it is or if it exists.

Would it not be as plausible to state that the aeroplanes did not really exist and that they were a projection from a 3D hologram laser that is top secret thus we don't know it exists, but that would explain a lot of the inconsistent evidence about the aeroplanes, they way they were maneuvered, the flashes of light, the ease of penetration, etc..... etc.....?

It's a bit like explaining something that we know about by using something that we don't know about.

Hmmm, see what you're saying but for some reason I don't think its clicking with you.

By examining the evidence to hand, we can find out what happened and more importantly what didn't happen

We know that 2 jets crashed in to the buildings causing fires.
We know the buildings "fell" down.
We know that 9/11 commission said that the fire from the planes caused the steel to weaken and the building to pancake to the ground.
We know that the 9/11 commission is lying according to the data gathered about free-fall speed, and the seismic impact. It wasn't planes and fire that brought the buildings down, the collapse was possibly pre-planned and definitely implemented.
We have motive (middle east, insurance increases on the towers, asbestos repair bill etc etc etc)
We know that it seems Condeliza Rice may have known something in advance.
We know that people have suggested that there were bombs in the building that brought the towers down with thermite or nukes.
We know that this story keeps changing due to inconsistencies picked up on by Dr Judy wood and others, such as seismic data, and mini nukes would leave a radioactive signature which doesn't exist.
We know that the signature for a controlled demolition of building 7 exists, yet it wasn't hit by a plane and the buildings owner instructed that the building be "pulled".

Your ballistics example I don't really understand. Ballistics would prove the weapon was some sort of gun, this would satisfy death via projectile weapon.

We have all the evidence to suggest the towers came down as a result of DEW. We have those ballistics as it were. The fact that we don't have the gun doesn't matter when concerning the method, it only matters concerning the murderer. Would Bin Laden have such a weapon? Doubtful. Why the need for the hijacking if he did? Why hasn't it been used again?

We know that weapons based on those principals exist.

Until another theory turns up that can explain all of the documented effects of the attack, then at this moment in time it surely must be the most logical.

Your holographic plane theory is a bit of a curve ball. We know the tech exists to some extent but it doesn't matter when there are reports that the black boxes of the real plans were indeed recovered in the rubble. Holographic black boxes you can actually pick up and feel the weight of? Doubtful ;)
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 11:25 #185

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''We know that 2 jets crashed in to the buildings causing fires.''

But we don't, as I say we know holograms exist, in the same way that we know DEW's exist.

So how do we know that the aeroplanes were not holographic projections of a top secret laser technology that we don't know about.
This is the bit where we imo need to focus.

We don't know that such a weapon proposed by Dr Wood exists that would be used to create such an atrocity, any more than we know if a hologram projector to create fake aircraft exists.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 11:28 #186

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Nikola Tesla, one of the most incredible inventors of all time, developed this 'directed energy technology' in the early 1900's. He created one device, about this size of a pack of cigarettes, which nearly brought down a New York highrise before he reportedly smashed it with a hammer to stop the vibrational
energy which was beginning to shatter the building.

In fact, many major technologies currently being used today were invented by Tesla including alternating current, light bulbs, robotics etc. etc. Tesla also invented an advanced technology to provide Free Energy to the entire planet, anywhere, and mainly for this reason the "powers that be" eliminated Tesla's name from history books.

It's not difficult to understand how 'they' wouldn't permit Free Energy to power the planet. Can you imagine a world, where OIL, HYDRO ELECTRIC ENERGY AND NUCLEAR ENERGY would be obsolete and no longer necessary as a major energy source?

Tesla wanted to give his free energy technology to the world, and for this reason all his funding was cut off by JP Morgan, Westinghouse and others, and he was never permitted to be recognized for his monumental achievements. The New World Order prefers that no one know that Tesla ever existed, so they can withhold this incredible technology from the People.

After Tesla died, the U.S.and Russia raced to confiscate all of Tesla's papers. Within his writings and drawings was the secret of energy technology...unlimited power which could clearly be used to dominate the world if it wound up in the wrong hands.

This amazing technology can also be used to heal people from many diseases, simply and for pennies. (So can such energy theoretically be used to induce disease in masses of people.) The current ultra-billion dollar medical-pharmaceutical industry would not be thrilled about Tesla's technology being used to replace their primitive but fantastically-profitable industries. So, human beings are forced to continue to suffer from diseases that can be easily and successfully treated using Tesla's technology. Sounds too good to be true? It's not.

Directed energy can also be used in an EVIL WAY and has the potential to cause huge amounts of damage by using weather as a Weapon of Mass Destruction. This technology exists now. {see links below}. In fact, some government officials have tried in vain to get a law on the books that says that directed energy Weapons cannot be used by any Nation to manipulate weather to be used as a "weapon" Unfortunately, the US, Russia and Japan - and possibly other nations - have been pursuing the use of
advanced energy technology to control the weather.

Can this energy weapon be used to 'steer' hurricanes? Someone should seriously check it out. The US Air Force official policy is to completely control the weather by 2025. And the evidence points
to substantial progress already having been made.

Tesla found a way to wirelessly broadcast power, not a source of unlimited free energy.
You would do well to check the patents he has.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 11:34 #187

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''Your holographic plane theory is a bit of a curve ball. We know the tech exists to some extent but it doesn't matter when there are reports that the black boxes of the real plans were indeed recovered in the rubble. Holographic black boxes you can actually pick up and feel the weight of? Doubtful ;)''

Do you think that people who can plan and execute such an event would not have accessibility to fake black box recordings. It's incredible tothink that tptb could do 9/11 but could not produce fake black box recordings.
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I'd like to draw your attention to this part of Dr Woods webpage..

Part2 of 12 Presentation by Andrew Johnson. Many people around the world are now realising that the official story of 9/11 is almost completely false. In this presentation, we will look at the evidence as to why the story is false, but we will also look at how some elements of the 9/11 Truth Movement seem to be trying to cover up a secret which has the potential to transform the future of mankind. TV Fakery, DEW, No Planes on 9/11
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drjudywood.com/videos/video_adj.html
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''Your holographic plane theory is a bit of a curve ball. We know the tech exists to some extent but it doesn't matter when there are reports that the black boxes of the real plans were indeed recovered in the rubble. Holographic black boxes you can actually pick up and feel the weight of? Doubtful ;)''

Do you think that people who can plan and execute such an event would not have accessibility to fake black box recordings. It's incredible tothink that tptb could do 9/11 but could not produce fake black box recordings.

Officially: The black boxes were never recovered. The only 2 times in history where a plane has crashed and it hasn't been recovered in the rubble. (Much like the towers are the only two to ever collapse due to fire.)

According to the fireman who found one of the black boxes and handed it to an FBI agent, they were recovered.
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andyh wrote:
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Nikola Tesla, one of the most incredible inventors of all time, developed this 'directed energy technology' in the early 1900's. He created one device, about this size of a pack of cigarettes, which nearly brought down a New York highrise before he reportedly smashed it with a hammer to stop the vibrational
energy which was beginning to shatter the building.

In fact, many major technologies currently being used today were invented by Tesla including alternating current, light bulbs, robotics etc. etc. Tesla also invented an advanced technology to provide Free Energy to the entire planet, anywhere, and mainly for this reason the "powers that be" eliminated Tesla's name from history books.

It's not difficult to understand how 'they' wouldn't permit Free Energy to power the planet. Can you imagine a world, where OIL, HYDRO ELECTRIC ENERGY AND NUCLEAR ENERGY would be obsolete and no longer necessary as a major energy source?

Tesla wanted to give his free energy technology to the world, and for this reason all his funding was cut off by JP Morgan, Westinghouse and others, and he was never permitted to be recognized for his monumental achievements. The New World Order prefers that no one know that Tesla ever existed, so they can withhold this incredible technology from the People.

After Tesla died, the U.S.and Russia raced to confiscate all of Tesla's papers. Within his writings and drawings was the secret of energy technology...unlimited power which could clearly be used to dominate the world if it wound up in the wrong hands.

This amazing technology can also be used to heal people from many diseases, simply and for pennies. (So can such energy theoretically be used to induce disease in masses of people.) The current ultra-billion dollar medical-pharmaceutical industry would not be thrilled about Tesla's technology being used to replace their primitive but fantastically-profitable industries. So, human beings are forced to continue to suffer from diseases that can be easily and successfully treated using Tesla's technology. Sounds too good to be true? It's not.

Directed energy can also be used in an EVIL WAY and has the potential to cause huge amounts of damage by using weather as a Weapon of Mass Destruction. This technology exists now. {see links below}. In fact, some government officials have tried in vain to get a law on the books that says that directed energy Weapons cannot be used by any Nation to manipulate weather to be used as a "weapon" Unfortunately, the US, Russia and Japan - and possibly other nations - have been pursuing the use of
advanced energy technology to control the weather.

Can this energy weapon be used to 'steer' hurricanes? Someone should seriously check it out. The US Air Force official policy is to completely control the weather by 2025. And the evidence points
to substantial progress already having been made.

Tesla found a way to wirelessly broadcast power, not a source of unlimited free energy.
You would do well to check the patents he has.
thelibertarianrepublic.com/evil-capitali...nergy/#axzz2suvdtxWz

They're talking of using the same tech to transfer power to earth from solar panels on the moon.
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I'd like to draw your attention to this part of Dr Woods webpage..

Part2 of 12 Presentation by Andrew Johnson. Many people around the world are now realising that the official story of 9/11 is almost completely false. In this presentation, we will look at the evidence as to why the story is false, but we will also look at how some elements of the 9/11 Truth Movement seem to be trying to cover up a secret which has the potential to transform the future of mankind. TV Fakery, DEW, No Planes on 9/11
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drjudywood.com/videos/video_adj.html

Like I say, its more likely that planes were involved. Until I see proof otherwise, they hit the towers.
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SilvaRizla wrote:
andyh wrote:
coates wrote:
Nikola Tesla, one of the most incredible inventors of all time, developed this 'directed energy technology' in the early 1900's. He created one device, about this size of a pack of cigarettes, which nearly brought down a New York highrise before he reportedly smashed it with a hammer to stop the vibrational
energy which was beginning to shatter the building.

In fact, many major technologies currently being used today were invented by Tesla including alternating current, light bulbs, robotics etc. etc. Tesla also invented an advanced technology to provide Free Energy to the entire planet, anywhere, and mainly for this reason the "powers that be" eliminated Tesla's name from history books.

It's not difficult to understand how 'they' wouldn't permit Free Energy to power the planet. Can you imagine a world, where OIL, HYDRO ELECTRIC ENERGY AND NUCLEAR ENERGY would be obsolete and no longer necessary as a major energy source?

Tesla wanted to give his free energy technology to the world, and for this reason all his funding was cut off by JP Morgan, Westinghouse and others, and he was never permitted to be recognized for his monumental achievements. The New World Order prefers that no one know that Tesla ever existed, so they can withhold this incredible technology from the People.

After Tesla died, the U.S.and Russia raced to confiscate all of Tesla's papers. Within his writings and drawings was the secret of energy technology...unlimited power which could clearly be used to dominate the world if it wound up in the wrong hands.

This amazing technology can also be used to heal people from many diseases, simply and for pennies. (So can such energy theoretically be used to induce disease in masses of people.) The current ultra-billion dollar medical-pharmaceutical industry would not be thrilled about Tesla's technology being used to replace their primitive but fantastically-profitable industries. So, human beings are forced to continue to suffer from diseases that can be easily and successfully treated using Tesla's technology. Sounds too good to be true? It's not.

Directed energy can also be used in an EVIL WAY and has the potential to cause huge amounts of damage by using weather as a Weapon of Mass Destruction. This technology exists now. {see links below}. In fact, some government officials have tried in vain to get a law on the books that says that directed energy Weapons cannot be used by any Nation to manipulate weather to be used as a "weapon" Unfortunately, the US, Russia and Japan - and possibly other nations - have been pursuing the use of
advanced energy technology to control the weather.

Can this energy weapon be used to 'steer' hurricanes? Someone should seriously check it out. The US Air Force official policy is to completely control the weather by 2025. And the evidence points
to substantial progress already having been made.

Tesla found a way to wirelessly broadcast power, not a source of unlimited free energy.
You would do well to check the patents he has.
thelibertarianrepublic.com/evil-capitali...nergy/#axzz2suvdtxWz

They're talking of using the same tech to transfer power to earth from solar panels on the moon.

Well thats not the same tech either, afaik what I've seen for long range wireless power was by laser.
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911 Flights - Video and Radar



Richard D Hall and I had discussed some of the issues raised above and he himself, having published his “Ball” analysis still had additional questions about some of the video record. He decided to conduct a deeper and more thorough analysis and boldly attempted to “map” as many of the flight 175 plane crash videos as he could onto/into his 3D-model of Manhattan. This analysis was published on 21 May 2012 and revealed that 26 clips of the flight 175 crash did indeed appear to match the Radar Data supplied by the NTSB (but there was a discrepancy of about 1400 feet/430 metres with the 84RADES Radar Data). This tended to rule out the idea of “simple video fakery” – which is what most other “no planers” argue. It seemed to bring us to the point of realisation that “another” technology had been used – one which created the image of planes in the sky – which really could be filmed/video’d. This also explains one of the fundamental difficulties with the “only video fakery” position – some witnesses did report seeing a plane – though there were sufficient variations in their accounts to suggest that there could have been issues with viewing the projected image from certain locations. One of the curious things is the "disappearing wings" observed in some clips [1] [2] – this should not happen with CGI!
www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php...iew&id=349&Itemid=60
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IMHO they let it happen on purpose. There is ofc evidence for that, seeing as the planes flew around unchallenged for that long off path.
As for no planes, that would be great only there are actual dead people who were on those planes incl the ex israeli sas guy who was a co-owner of akamia technologies.
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IMHO they let it happen on purpose. There is ofc evidence for that, seeing as the planes flew around unchallenged for that long off path.
As for no planes, that would be great only there are actual dead people who were on those planes incl the ex israeli sas guy who was a co-owner of akamia technologies.

They could have died in the plane that hit the deck in a rural area.

We don't know do we?
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He wasn't a fireman my mistake.

I've seen the disappearing wings. There are too many compression issues with uploaded videos (just like shapeshifting reppies) for it to be given credence.

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 12:46 #199

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 12:52 #200

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IMHO they let it happen on purpose. There is ofc evidence for that, seeing as the planes flew around unchallenged for that long off path.
As for no planes, that would be great only there are actual dead people who were on those planes incl the ex israeli sas guy who was a co-owner of akamia technologies.

They could have died in the plane that hit the deck in a rural area.

We don't know do we?

Umm yes they do actually, they were on the passenger list for each flight?
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