dubmeup wrote:
No he isn't being punished retrospectively. After the initial fiasco, he was on fucking thin ice. There are numerous occasions when he could have been banned and we all chose to ignore it. Then he rips in to Marina for no reason followed by an assault on basically all of us and that was the final straw for me. My opinion is that he is a troll, his main purpose was to cause upset, that was evident by his repeated actions and this can't be denied. As such, trolls should be dealt with.

You're the only person who was asking for further proof, nobody else needed it. He was on thin ice as it was, further proof shouldn't have been needed. All we've done is let shit slide with him, we've been decent, he has not.

He's a known troll, and he trolled us again by making a lot of us believe he'd changed, he hadn't.

He called marina's articles lame (for which he ought to apologise given that he could have published himself), that's hardly ripping in to her.
Your opinion is he is a troll. His opinion of you may be the same.
I have seen others laying in to him, hard.
No-one is without their part in this.

Again. He is now banned because imo folk don't like what he posts, on occasion.
No broken rules that anyone can show me.


Btw, i have no respect for your use of the word assult in thqt post. Assult my fucking arse.

dubmeup wrote:
His exact words were:
BT wrote:
He is a TROLL, I can't understand how you can't see that.

Not that your opinion holds much water in the matter, you admit yourself you haven't been paying attention.

If you think those words from blue = rippinf into someone and that you can be assulted on an internet forum you have obviously led an extermely sheltered and charmed life.
Or.
You are using deliberately immflamatory rhetoric...

And my opinion counts for as much as yours or anyone else's so you can shove that one up yer arse.

(and no i won't apologise for that exqmple of ripping into you and assaulting you...)

SilvaRizla wrote:
Fuck buying razor blades at that price - get yourself a cut throat and a strop to keep it sharp - or use a disposable lighter like I used to....hard as nails me

We should all remember our experiences at the DIF, one mans troll is another mans freedom fighter, for me unless someone is constantly attacking people and just tacking the piss they should be suspended for a brief period to cool of or reflect,

rack up enough suspensions and then you get a ban with the knowledge you did it to yourself by being a prick to many times, is this a mates club or a forum / community of people that wont always agree?

batou wrote:
There you go. Some honesty...
Banned cos folk don't like him.

@dubmeup

As you can see, Blue did participate in the News discussion on a previous thread, he was aware that it is supposed to look like what it looks now, having the welcome message on top, and the news underneath, and all I was doing was building up to that, have as many news stories.... his attacks towards me were on a personal level, nothing more, and he found something to cling to, the NEWS, end of.

P.S. not to mention there's 4 people in the news team, not just me alone.... I could have not been bothered, like the rest. Seems that most people are just talk and talk and when it comes to doing it, they back off. Well, not me. If I said I do something, be sure I'm doing it.

dubmeup wrote:
I didn't want him banned - I don't think anybody should be unless they are bat shit crazy like that Sod/Merv bloke.
I think BT is beset by demons and it would take a sizeable herd of pigs to accomodate that casting out.
But he can behave but he also knows when he is NOT behaving but he is up and down like a whore's drawers and has to learn to reign himself in or take permanent leave of his own volition.
He can post some interesting stuff (eg the Mushroom thread) but also can post reams of dirge with no context or introduction to the material.
Horlicks BT - or camomile tea FFS

p.s. I do casting out of devils....for a reasonable fee

Marina. He participated in the news thread.....constructively.
As he has in otger threads. Hardly classic troll behaviour.
I've already stated that imo he should apologise to you. You do an excellent job with the news imo.

What has happened here imo is that he got gis feathers ruffled and responded by acting like a prick on occasion. Others had a part to play in thqt.

dubmeup wrote: BT is slow on the apologies and rarely show remorse after his attacks. Changing that would be a good start.

Blue said, on TPV thread, he's not gonna post on the forum till May 27th, and that gave him away as a typical attention seeking troll. Trolls do participate constructively in discussions at times, but their true colors show eventually. Why do I think he's a troll? He had at least 2 accounts on DIF and least 2 here. When he was "banned" as CF he supposedly was so down and cried over it.... eventually writing a long post of how sorry he was for behaving like that and he stated that as Cousin Frothy his sole intention was to disturb the forum, but then... as his new reincarnation Blue_Tackler he's a changed man. Make of it what you wish, but my personal opinion of him, he's not who he says he is. I too am against bannings per say, but when one's intentions are clear, that leaves no choice. He did participate constructively in the SZ News Team Thread, but that was before he came out as Cousin Frothy and it was only "talk" or "making a conversation". Supposedly having a medical condition doesn't justify his actions.

dubmeup wrote: Blue_Tackler wrote: What sort of person comes to what is effectively a community of people, continually says that we're a bunch of idiots and that we're all sheep, moans about everything, demands that the site is changed around solely because he thinks that it should be, creates sock accounts, acts likes a tit with his sock accounts, states that posting on Internet forums is a waste of time and that anyone who does so is an idiot, constantly demands attention, makes up some phony psychological condition as the reason he's behaving like an idiot...and then claims he's being discriminated against by the community that he so desperately wants to be a part of!

I'll give you a clue...it beings with 't' and ends in 'roll'. If you think we showed leeway towards him that he'd suddenly start behaving sensibly and making a genuine contribution then you are sorely mistaken.

I'm glad that he's gone, he's an immature idiot, I'm sure he will attempt to create sock accounts in the future, but we should have voted him out last time. I'm glad that people are willing to give others a second chance, and I fully believe in this in principle, but my personal experience is that it very rarely works out in practice. Pretty much everyone else here I'm confident is just here to chat and be pleasant and make SZ a fun and harmonious place to be.

meatballwiki.org/wiki/TrollingTactic
Apologies for the spelling mistakes here, I've just copied and pasted it.

I'm all too happy to ban people that are generally regarded as asshole's by the majority of users.

If usual practice is a 1 week ban, followed by a 2 week ban, followed by a 4 week ban etc... then I really don't see why BT should be any different. If he's been trolling, 1 week ban. If he does it again, 2 week ban. Again? 4 week ban. He only needs to commit 6 offences and that's already over a year of bans. What makes BT special that he gets different treatment?

batou wrote:
I think that's a slippery slope to go down. Just because people regard someone as an asshole I don't think that should warrant a ban.

dubmeup wrote:

3point5 wrote:
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.

@Dubs: Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.

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Is it sinking in yet?

@wub.
I happen to agree with a fair amount of what blue said about posting on conspiracy forums and the focus on icke.
Perhaps i too should be banned for.that?
@silva.
How about you give the sanctimonious shit a rest?

dubmeup wrote:
Or not.

Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
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Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.
Blue Tackler is Cousin Frothy. Cousin Frothy is a previously identified troll whom we (wrongly) gave another chance.

What about now? Has it clicked yet?