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TOPIC: Aliens Are Fallen Angels?

Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 12:00 #1

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Are Aliens, both the greys who abduct and the so called channeled aliens all just fallen angels?
We were warned against channeling or connecting to the spirit world:

"There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 "For whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and because of these detestable things the LORD your God will drive them out before you"

Also:

11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm

I was recently watching a documentary about people who were once in the occult or it had some people who were into the new age thing and were opening themselves up to channeling dead people and how at first things were all nicey nice and then BAM things changed and their lives were made a hell by the same chanelled beings.

What are everyones thoughts on the fallen angels spoken of in the bible being the alien greys and chanelled aliens / ascended masters?
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 12:03 #2

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Plus you have in Genesis the whole thing about the fallen angels mating with Human women and baring children. God wiped out the Earth to cleanse it of these creations. Now in the modern day these alien greys seem to be doing the exact same thing, creating alien human hybrids.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 12:29 #3

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God dammit I lost my post so fuck it.
No.
It was a good post too.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 12:45 #4

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Kalki Vishnu wrote:
Plus you have in Genesis the whole thing about the fallen angels mating with Human women and baring children. God wiped out the Earth to cleanse it of these creations. Now in the modern day these alien greys seem to be doing the exact same thing, creating alien human hybrids.

And you really believe that?...I'm just asking...
Because in which case the 'good' angels could be doing the same.......just saying
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 13:02 #5

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angelchemuel wrote:
Kalki Vishnu wrote:
Plus you have in Genesis the whole thing about the fallen angels mating with Human women and baring children. God wiped out the Earth to cleanse it of these creations. Now in the modern day these alien greys seem to be doing the exact same thing, creating alien human hybrids.

And you really believe that?...I'm just asking...
Because in which case the 'good' angels could be doing the same.......just saying
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I'm open to the possibility. When you look into alien abduction stories they all talk about them extracting eggs or sperm, some people have even been told about the hybrids, some get abducted and shown their offspring. There must surely be something to all these stories of aliens mixing dna and creating a hybrid species.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 15:54 #6

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Conversely angels are 'fallen' aliens?
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 18:20 #7

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oioioi wrote:
Conversely angels are 'fallen' aliens?

Blasphemer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 18:25 #8

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Aliens and angels are different races. Angels are energy while alien greys do have bodies.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 18:31 #9

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Annajn wrote:
Aliens and angels are different races. Angels are energy while alien greys do have bodies.

Fallen angels can be both physical and none physical. The fallen angels were cast to the Earth, they physically created offspring that "God" felt the need to wipe out. We're also told of spiritual wickedness in high places. We have therefore imo two different forms in which demons or fallen angels can take.
But may I ask, how do you know the greys are physical? angels can take any form, can appear physical to the perceiver. Even if greys weren't fallen angels but other dimensional they could theoretically alter what they look like just like any Astral entity can.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 18:45 #10

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Kalki Vishnu wrote:
11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm

I rather like this bit :)
But that's because I am looking at it as symbolic, rather than literal.

Just replace the words God and Devil with; Libertarian'ism' and Authoritarian'ism' for example
Or Selflessnes and Selfishness.
Or Good and Evil
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 19:02 #11

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Kalki Vishnu wrote:
Annajn wrote:
Aliens and angels are different races. Angels are energy while alien greys do have bodies.

Fallen angels can be both physical and none physical. The fallen angels were cast to the Earth, they physically created offspring that "God" felt the need to wipe out. We're also told of spiritual wickedness in high places. We have therefore imo two different forms in which demons or fallen angels can take.
But may I ask, how do you know the greys are physical? angels can take any form, can appear physical to the perceiver. Even if greys weren't fallen angels but other dimensional they could theoretically alter what they look like just like any Astral entity can.

I really don't buy into that story that angels that was cast out from heaven created offspring with human women.
I assume most of the greys do have psychical bodies but then it might be those that don't have psychical bodies.. We can never know for sertain.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 16 Jan 2014 19:12 #12

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Kalki Vishnu wrote:
But may I ask, how do you know the greys are physical? angels can take any form, can appear physical to the perceiver. Even if greys weren't fallen angels but other dimensional they could theoretically alter what they look like just like any Astral entity can.

I've told the tale on here before so I won't again but I know someone that has a 'grey' living in symbiosis with them. A relationship which came into being when the person had a life threatening accident. I have met the 'grey'. They said that they needed a 'body' to have a presence 'here' and my friend needed their help to pull through from the coma. They need each other and that's the way they live.

Anyone is ofc free to believe that or not.
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 17 Jan 2014 21:54 #13

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knobmeup wrote:
Kalki Vishnu wrote:
But may I ask, how do you know the greys are physical? angels can take any form, can appear physical to the perceiver. Even if greys weren't fallen angels but other dimensional they could theoretically alter what they look like just like any Astral entity can.

I've told the tale on here before so I won't again but I know someone that has a 'grey' living in symbiosis with them. A relationship which came into being when the person had a life threatening accident. I have met the 'grey'. They said that they needed a 'body' to have a presence 'here' and my friend needed their help to pull through from the coma. They need each other and that's the way they live.

Anyone is ofc free to believe that or not.

So your friend in other words is a Goa'uld. :chin:
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 17 Jan 2014 23:25 #14

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I wouldn't say so. Iirc the two were already 'incarnate' in that story.
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 18 Jan 2014 09:07 #15

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ANGELS are of saturnian origin that can sometimes manifest into our physical realm...definitely not here to help the human race so all these fluffy bunny new age types and channelers who think they are need a dose of reality syrup...same with 'heaven'...its saturnian origin just like hell[EL]...and people who wear or worship the cross might has well tilt their arses towards saturn and prepare to be shafted. :aargh:
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 18 Jan 2014 23:26 #16

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There's no evidence that aliens exist just plenty of speculation and folk tales.
naivety attracts evil and evil attracts naivety
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 19 Jan 2014 17:36 #17

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humanspirit wrote:
There's no evidence that aliens exist just plenty of speculation and folk tales.

Millions of experiences world wide aren't folk tales. I've never been to a rugby union match but millions have and i'm not gonna call rugby union a folk tale just cos I aint been.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 19 Jan 2014 17:58 #18

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Kalki Vishnu wrote:
humanspirit wrote:
There's no evidence that aliens exist just plenty of speculation and folk tales.

Millions of experiences world wide aren't folk tales. I've never been to a rugby union match but millions have and i'm not gonna call rugby union a folk tale just cos I aint been.

I wrote this in another thread, although it was rather hastily written, as there doesn't seem to be much interest on the forum for 'this kinda thing'.
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The idea of 'aliens' is a complete misnomer, and completely diverts the attention away from a huge amount of evidence, written over a period of hundreds, if not thousands of years, that points to the phenomena being very much closer to home.

Is it just a coincidence that in the space age of the 20th and 21st century, that we're seeing hi-tech craft traverse the skies?

Was it just a coincidence that in the early part of the 1900's that actual flying ships, anchors and all, were being spotted?

Is it another coincidence that in medieval times people were reporting seeing witches on broomsticks?

Or that between the 1600's - 1800's, where nature worship was rife, people were seeing, and being abducted by (and being taken on either terrifying or enlightened journeys) man size bunny rabbits and shape-shifting horses?

Or in biblical times where people often reported encounters with angels or demons? And still are in heavily influenced religious areas.

You get my point :thumbup:
sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Paranormal--Myst...heory-on-aliens.html

If you're interested in this kind of thing, then I can't recommend John Keel's books highly enough. The bloke is an absolute legendary researcher, a proper one, although he doesn't quite come across too well on camera.

Another reason why the 'alien' theory doesn't sit well with me, is that we assume it's something unrelated to us, when in fact if there is other life in this universe (and I would be blown away if there isn't) then 'it' is us - and not 'alien'.
But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma,
a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 21 Jan 2014 08:13 #19

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Where is the evidence to suggest aliens exist, aside from he said she said and photoshop fakery?
Where is the evidence to suggest angels exist aside from he said she said and photoshop fakery?
Where is the evidence to suggest the god of the bible exists, outside of he said she said?

All I see is one divine being who says, "you're not as good as me, you can't do the things I can, and if you do I'll throw you out, so I'm still better than you". I mean c'mon, is this "divine being" a ten year old?

The whole thing sounds a bit Icke-esque to me. :D
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Aliens Are Fallen Angels? 21 Jan 2014 14:15 #20

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For anyone interested in the subject the linked vid might be for you. The guy talking, Bill Schnoebelen, appears to have lead quite a busy and interesting life to put it mildly, and he addresses the subject of aliens, UFOs and underground bases as well as plenty of stuff about angels and Satan and all his chums down here on Earth.

youtube.com/watch?v=L_bB0uJIRnk
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