Now I never know fredie star or Jimmmy Saville , however what I do know is Jimmy Svillle has abused about aroround 300 chidren

i still think the only justice to be done is if you slit those pedos throats and kick em off a boat

Still waiting for the politicians mentioned

mikey mikey wrote:
Not to mention these staff at various places who got some money left for them by Savile.
They need naming and their money taking away.

The whole thing stinks

There will be many politicians who are involved in this , but they will never be mentioned as people in power protect their own

That's what happened with Saville .....he got away with it for decades because he was protected when everyone with half a brain could see he was a weirdo child abuser .

It's only been 'ALLOWED' to come out now he's dead

I do wonder how much the masons figure in this one, I don't really know that much about the masons first hand being female and all ......but there must be club of child abusers somewhere and this needs to be stopped

My husband's a mason, and as much as I'm tempted to plant him face down under the patio on occasion, I can assure you, hand on heart, that (though it could feasibly be a different story among the highest echelons) there's nothing sinister goes on in the typical lodge. He'd be the first to condemn such things vehemently.

I'm not sure if the vandalism and graffiti of Jimmy Saville's Scottish house was shown in England or Wales or Ireland ........but, according to the media (which may or may not be true) someone painted over the walls Jimmy Saville was a beast and also painted a triangle with the all seeing eye over it?

I'm not sure what this means but I do think whoever did that is spot on

Gilly I respect you and respect the fact that you are married to a mason .

However he might just be a low level mason ......who thinks being a mason is cool

Have you asked him what happens in the lodge?

Would he tell you?

Yes, I've asked him, and yes, he tells me. It strikes me as quite wholesome, and also a tremendous bore tbh.

There are good masons and bad masons, good eco warriors, and bad.

Only in the same way that everybody could be thought of as good or bad, regardless of whether they're in the masons - actually thinking about it, they tend to be more 'good' in so far as their rituals are based around how to be kind and helpful to their fellow men. They have no power when we're not talking about the top degrees - and those in the top degrees have other things in common, like being at the very top of every field, including politics.

i'm sure Gillys husband is a good mason

tat does not stop masons being weird though?

dawnbreak wrote:
True enough. They wear leather pinnies.

Different lodges have different agendas. I know for a fact the Liverpool one is fooking evil.

If Masons are all transparent and stuff ......why did my Granny have her home broken into by Masons to remove my step grandads chest ?

They told her 'we are taking this because no-one needs to see whats in there?

They walked in the door and removed his chest .......he was a high up mason

Well, I'm not going to argue the point, because I can only speak of what I know, which doesn't include any paedophilia or other evil - guaranteed. But if you know of bad things going on amongst them elsewhere, then I have to say, it surprises me, but I'll take your word for it.

Do you not think there is 'a circle' of pedophiles' and yes your husband might be a mason but that does not prevent the fact that most of the abusers , with children and life in general are masons?

The fact that you even know your husband is mason suggests he his only going there for the craick and treating it as a social club

Well my family mixed in those circles, both sides we're crazy rich an owned most Buxton, Stockport and parts of Manchester. Knew the archbishop of Canterbury etc, well a family member, who's just the bomb refused point blank to join them, he'd been in them many many times, and said those people are extremely evil, they tried much bribery to get him to join, but he was a good man, and hated them with a vengeance and said the archbishop was a nasty piece of work who he wanted nothing to do with.

dawnbreak wrote:
Yes, that there is 'a circle' of paedophiles is a fact, and no, I don't believe that most of the abusers are masons, but I'll be happy to examine your evidence of that claim with an open mind.

It's a fact also that he wouldn't associate with others involved in such activities for the crack.

The various lodges do get together quite frequently for social functions, and sometimes have joint meetings, so they're not completely segregated from each other. I'm struggling to see how some lodges would be 'evil', and that would go unnoticed by the 'good ones'. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it doesn't seem very feasible to me.

My late father was also approached by the masons and told he would get work if joined..

He didn't , and it was his wife's stepdad that asked him too who was a high up mason

He always thought they were odd are best and dangerous at worst .

Gilly people mention masons you jump in and say 'my husband is a mason' perhaps your defending your husband for being a member of a group that that you may not understand?