LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Gay couples can make a kid. They just need to find a rent-a-womb or a sperm donor

Some gay couples want to be parents, but I don't think that should be tied into the transhumanist agenda. I can understand that some people aren't comfortable with it, but I just think we should let people be happy and live the life they choose to live.
Yeah, its still not the same because both parents involved are not making the child, they have to borrow an egg from a mother.
The day will come when both a mother and a father are unnecessary.
Sure it shouldn't be tied in to the transhumanistic agenda unfortunately it is happening regardless.
I agree with you on the family unit thing though. I was a single parent for many years and also claimed benefit. Tbh I didn't ever decide that I wanted to go down that route, my sons father was irresponsible, cheated on me and was verbally and emotionally abusive. I have often wondered why people accept this sort of behaviour as a matter of course from men, but if I had behaved the same I would have been viewed as some sort of social pariah. Even now he doesn't pay maintenance, and I still get peeved at the fact that he has taken no responsibility for contributing towards raising our son.
Just part of the overall agenda, remove mens sense of responsibility and womens need for men and you have a dangerous sea shift in the big social picture.
The whole chav scene is a direct result of it imho.
The key thing that the social engineering has done is to make people afraid of responsibility, to make them think only of the self.
As per the doc 'century of the self'.
Money at the end of the day drives it, if we could ever envisage a world without it then you could BOTH have your cake and eat it.
People tend not to think that far outside the box, I guess the fluoride helps in that dept.