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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 08 Apr 2013 23:45 #141

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:arrowup: Ooof! Back of the net!!

Oh and her family can pay for it as "there's no such thing as society" to foot the bill.
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Have a go at Friedrich Hayek, Thatcher may be dead but you can't kill ideas.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 08 Apr 2013 23:54 #143

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Mike wrote:
Have a go at Friedrich Hayek, Thatcher may be dead but you can't kill ideas.

Nobody cares about that guy any more. You can't kill ideas but people who might be the guy who invented oven chips for all the average Daily Mail reader knows aren't going to inspire people to gush about how wonderful it was when organised labour was castrated.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 08 Apr 2013 23:56 #144

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Mike wrote:
Have a go at Friedrich Hayek, Thatcher may be dead but you can't kill ideas.

Share your/Friedrich's/Maggie's idea with us.....
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anyone else notice how it's old the old old tories who are who are coming out to defend her? David Mellor was on tv earlier, David mellor? And that guy who was linked to Saville Lord McAlpine

Surely david Cameron and the rest of them should be falling all over them selves to defend her and wish her well in her death ........the concert politicans are being a bit quite
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 08 Apr 2013 23:59 #148

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anyone else notice how it's old the old old tories who are who are coming out to defend her? David Mellor was on tv earlier, David mellor? And that guy who was linked to Saville Lord McAlpine

Surely david Cameron and the rest of them should be falling all over them selves to defend her and wish her well in her death ........the concert politicans are being a bit quite

Cameron apparently flew back in from overseas somewhere just to be here and has been kissing her dead ass all day.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 00:21 #149

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anyone else notice how it's old the old old tories who are who are coming out to defend her? David Mellor was on tv earlier, David mellor? And that guy who was linked to Saville Lord McAlpine

Surely david Cameron and the rest of them should be falling all over them selves to defend her and wish her well in her death ........the concert politicans are being a bit quite

Cameron apparently flew back in from overseas somewhere just to be here and has been kissing her dead ass all day.

Cameron rimming Thatcher's corpse...Oh Christ woman, why did you have to put that imagery into my head at bedtime?!?...Oh god what nightmares await tonight...
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 00:24 #150

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dawnbreak wrote:
anyone else notice how it's old the old old tories who are who are coming out to defend her? David Mellor was on tv earlier, David mellor? And that guy who was linked to Saville Lord McAlpine

Surely david Cameron and the rest of them should be falling all over them selves to defend her and wish her well in her death ........the concert politicans are being a bit quite

Cameron apparently flew back in from overseas somewhere just to be here and has been kissing her dead ass all day.


Cameron rimming Thatcher's corpse...Oh Christ woman, why did you have to put that imagery into my head at bedtime?!?...Oh god what nightmares await tonight...



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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 00:34 #151

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Thatcher's death – some quick thoughts
Thatcher's death – some quick thoughts

Former Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher has died. The occasion has been the cause of both mourning and jubilation. What follows is a reflection on what this means in the context of the ongoing class struggle.

Today, along with up to 55,000 other workers in HM Revenue & Customs, I was taking part in a half day's strike. It was just before one when literally hundreds of us were gathered outside work for a mass walk-in, and a member of the public ran past excitedly. “Maggie Thatcher's dead!” He yelled.

Straight away, union reps and members, the drivers lined up in the taxi rank and other members of the public were on their phones to check the news. Some cheers went up. More people shouted the news out to their mates on the street. More cheers. Then the strike finished, and her name kept popping out of the conversations of the throng walking into work. In the office and both my manager and her manager are talking about it, and how it was good she hadn't held on a week longer to sully the memory Hillsborough.

Waiting for the bus home, I rang my nan and told her the news. She remarked that no tears would be shed for Maggie in Liverpool and reeled off a list of why she despised the woman.

All of the above happened spontaneously. Only a tiny minority of the people involved are known militants or communists, the kind of people you would recognise as the professional left in attendance at every vaguely left wing rally or demonstration. Rather they're mostly working class people – male and female, employed and unemployed – of an age to remember what Thatcher did to our city and our class.

Her role in the Hillsborough cover up. Wapping. The miner's strike. Destroying industries and throwing millions into unemployment. Driving whole towns across the north of the UK into poverty. The Poll Tax. The Falklands War. Supporting Pinochet. I have no need to go into great detail about the devastation she wrought or pick a worst amongst her acts, because everyone can do that for themselves.

Margaret Thatcher didn't do what she did alone. Her party, the political class, the police, the generals and the bosses all had their parts to play. But she didn't lend her name to what would become the prevailing ideology of the next three decades for naught, and there's a good reason that the most venom is reserved for her.

It's worth pointing out that her death isn't a victory in any sense. She shattered the workers' movement and used the law to enforce the unions' role in policing the workforce rather than advancing its collective interests. She set us on a path of privatisation and casualisation that has continued unabated up to the present and only escalated under the banner of austerity. Her class is on the offensive and our movement is set into the managed decline she was once advised to inflict upon Liverpool.

Perhaps that's why there's so much jubilation over her death. Perhaps we're not that dissimilar from the desperate and wretched who took comfort in the death of Ebenezer Scrooge because he'd condemned them.

As a friend put it on Facebook:
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We have so little to celebrate right now, they're taking so many jobs and desperately needed money, so am I going to have a big glass of wine for this? Yes, 'cause there's fuck all else to drink to.

There is one important difference between Scrooge's victims and Thatcher's victims, beyond scale. Today people will drink and celebrate because she's gone. But tomorrow, we will organise and fight back, as we did yesterday. Our movement is battered and broken, but it's still there.

Tenants and benefit claimants are angry, defiant and ready to take on the Bedroom Tax. Those on welfare continue to picket and hound employers out of using workfare, so that the scheme remains tottering on the brink of collapse. Militant workers in the civil service have pushed the PCS union into a sustained campaign of disruptive action that they are determined to keep going. Casualised and low paid workers are organising and winning victories.

We're not on the verge of revolution. Talk of a general strike by the unions is just words in the wind which will at best lead to a single day of stage managed radicalism. But the working class hasn't forgotten how to fight.

Thatcher is dead. We won't mourn and we will organise. Given the circumstances, it's probably the best we could hope for.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 00:35 #152

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 01:13 #153

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anyone else notice how it's old the old old tories who are who are coming out to defend her? David Mellor was on tv earlier, David mellor? And that guy who was linked to Saville Lord McAlpine

Surely david Cameron and the rest of them should be falling all over them selves to defend her and wish her well in her death ........the concert politicans are being a bit quite

Cameron apparently flew back in from overseas somewhere just to be here and has been kissing her dead ass all day.

Yeah......apparently parliament was in recess? Again?

Surely the Easter holidays were over a wek ago?
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 01:15 #154

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 01:19 #155

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 08:08 #156

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I will confess that I pitied her for one reason.

Mark.

Having that useless fuckwit for a son was a terrible burden.

Will he be driving the hearse?

Wrong, Hugo. She worshipped Mark Twatcher. I don't think she ever loved anyone or anything else in her life, to the exclusion of his twin sister. Even her husband (stolen off his first family and the cause of his first wife's suicide/attempted suicide, can't rightly recall now) was only married because she needed his money.

Mark was the rotten apple of her vile eye. She adored him and did everything for him. No wonder the f/wit grew up not able to even wipe his own arse.

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Ouchy! Ass well and truly chewed.

:D

You're young. You're to be forgiven, you cannot be expected to remember her vileness and knowing evil (puppet? Puppet effin master, more like).

*But, by way of a hint - don't be getting in front of us older ones' jaws when we're snarling about stinking hatchet*

:D

It was like a DIF flashback. I knew this place was becoming more like the DIF and that just confirmed it for me.

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 11:44 #157

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During the early eighties, I grew up in Jarrow, Tyneside. My father worked in the shipyards as did most of his family. That is until they were closed and my town was hit with 50% unemployment. After four years in and out of work, he got a job in the docks in Felixstowe and we had to move. Like most northern families looking for work in the South, we received a lot of abuse. Thanks to the rhetoric of Mrs. Thatcher and her government, we were viewed as parasites and second-class citizens. I struggled to get a place at University and at 18, having got my place despite a lot of prejudice from my teachers, I left the town and never came back.

All these years I have felt anger and bitterness towards Mrs. Thatcher, her government and her supporters. Yesterday's long anticipated news, however, left me somewhat numb initially. I cannot say I celebrated. After years of bloodthirsty wingnuts relishing the deaths of their enemies, I just couldn't. What I felt was relief. A release from the bitterness, anger and hate. Of something being finally over.

I do not condemn the people celebrating her death either. I think I can understand that they are taking this last opportunity to vent for all of these years of rage and frustration that have built up and never been truly allowed to be expressed. I can also understand that this appears as a small piece of justice or revenge after decades of injustice and defeat. With the prospect laid out only a week ago of further injustice and defeat to come, then it is unsuprising that they wish to take this fleeting opportunity. Moreover, in the face of what appears to be a massive revisionist campaign by much of the media to have her remembered as a saviour and heroine, I can see why the population who remember what she did and what she set in motion are eager to set the record straight.


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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 12:18 #158

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"There is no such thing as society" -Margaret Thatcher 1988

"There is no such thing as Thatcher" - Society 2013
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 12:56 #159

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I noticed this morning that, despite every effort to whitewash the past and glorify her memory, even the posters of the daily mail are not buying it.

All green arrows under the anti-Thatcher's memory comments.

I think the public's lack of sympathy has upset quite a few in the RW press.
No Old Trafford tribute for Baroness Thatcher... Shame on football for snubbing the lady who rescued our game from tribal hooligans

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As almost of the comments point out: they would never have received a minutes silence. Not in Manchester.

And this is just bonkers:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306075...hen-Fry-Twitter.html

Now we have the DM telling us who has shown adequate public displays of grief.

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I thought this type of Great Leader worship existed only in North Korea
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 09 Apr 2013 13:03 #160

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As almost of the comments point out: they would never have received a minutes silence. Not in Manchester.

That would have just been an embarrassment for the establishment. A minutes cheering of a unified Manchester is exactly why they chose not to.... anyway, Callaghan & Heath never got any minutes silences so why on earth should Thatch?
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