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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 13:52 #421

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5. Which laws brought in by the EU actually have affected you,the only laws that have impacted on me are the ones from parliament,those people are worse than the EU.

You're not... you're not... you're not suggesting that was my POV were you?
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Whatever feeble lists people attribute to her doing anything good, which isn't much and could easily be countered, won't match oioioi's list of 46 things that make her a cunt!
Didn't she say 'rejoice, rejoice' after sinking the Belgrano as it was sailing away from the exclusion zone after they altered the rules of engagement ?
That's pretty sick.

It's actually Mike Harding's list with a few additions....actually, come to think of it, it's Thatcher's list/legacy!

It should be etched onto her grave.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 13:54 #422

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More of her legacy...

Downing St the day she arrived...

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Since she left...

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 13:59 #423

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"Children are being taught they have an inalienable right to be gay. All of those children are being cheated of a sound start in life."

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 14:05 #424

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 14:07 #425

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oioioi wrote:
More of her legacy...

Downing St the day she arrived...

508430.jpg.indyscaled


Since she left...

508431.jpg.indyscaled

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here Oi.
This happened after 9/11....Bush and Blair.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 14:09 #426

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angelchemuel wrote:
oioioi wrote:
More of her legacy...

Downing St the day she arrived...

508430.jpg.indyscaled


Since she left...

508431.jpg.indyscaled

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here Oi.
This happened after 9/11....Bush and Blair.
:facepalm:

Blair is her legacy also.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 14:14 #427

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oioioi wrote:
"Children are being taught they have an inalienable right to be gay. All of those children are being cheated of a sound start in life."

Britain has definitely changed a lot in my lifetime, not always for the worse. This sort of statement cannot be justified today, thankfully.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 14:51 #428

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Her face on that really makes my stomach churn.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 15:19 #429

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 15:26 #430

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
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"Children are being taught they have an inalienable right to be gay. All of those children are being cheated of a sound start in life."

Britain has definitely changed a lot in my lifetime, not always for the worse. This sort of statement cannot be justified today, thankfully.

I like the bit about teaching children "traditional moral values" - I was under the impression stuff like caring for the sick, poor and vulnerable, not being greedy and not exploiting others for personal gain were "traditional moral values"? This was a woman who couldn't give a shit if you were living on the streets but was strangely preoccupied with who you decided to have sex with.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 15:32 #431

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oioioi wrote:
angelchemuel wrote:
oioioi wrote:
More of her legacy...

Downing St the day she arrived...

508430.jpg.indyscaled


Since she left...

508431.jpg.indyscaled

You really are scraping the bottom of the barrel here Oi.
This happened after 9/11....Bush and Blair.
:facepalm:

Blair is her legacy also.


Late in 2002 Lady Thatcher came to Hampshire to speak at a dinner. One of the guests asked her what was her greatest achievement. She replied, "Tony Blair and New Labour. We forced our opponents to change their minds."
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 15:38 #432

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Another of Thatcher's legacies not yet mentioned is the 80s heroin epidemic - fueled by entire communities reduced to mass unemployment with no hope of digging themselves out of poverty. Heroin also crept into the traveler community after her brutal suppression of people who dared to live an unorthodox lifestyle - creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of travelers being feckless criminals after their community was ripped apart by brute force.
But don't worry! They govt were on hand to make it all better with the power of just saying no.



The next generation have been somewhat inoculated by seeing the havoc wreaked.
But I'm sure poverty despair management will find a new drug. Mephedrone perhaps (or whatever passes for it these days)., as that seems to have taken off in some deprived areas.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 15:39 #433

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"We know at the moment not enough people are protected from measles which means probably we will get an outbreak and we want to make sure enough people are protected."

He added that an estimated 13,000 children under 19 have not had both recommended MMR jabs in the health board area.

More than 1,700 were vaccinated at hospital drop-in clinics in Swansea, Neath Port Talbot and Bridgend last Saturday, with another 900 vaccinated in the Swansea area last wee
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 15:50 #434

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Margaret Thatcher the tax snatcher? Mystery of her £6m house with links to THREE tax havens
13 Apr 2013 00:00

Financial experts said it could have been a scheme which would help her estate avoid millions of pounds in inheritance tax
Mystery: Margaret Thatcher, her £6m house and the tax havens Mystery: Margaret Thatcher, her £6m house and the tax havens

Margaret Thatcher’s £6m London townhouse is owned by a mysterious company with links to THREE notorious tax havens.

Financial experts said it could have been a scheme which would help her estate avoid millions of pounds in inheritance tax.

But because her affairs are shrouded in such extraordinary secrecy it may be impossible to find out.

The trail leads to offshore businesses in the British Virgin Islands with links to Liechtenstein and Jersey.

The £6million property she lived in for more than 20 years is owned by Bakeland Property Company, based in the BVI.

The company’s official address is a PO Box in a small town in Liechtenstein and it had its original roots in St Helier, Jersey.

Any suggestion of avoiding a £2.4m inheritance tax bill will spark outrage following the row over who is paying for Thatcher’s lavish £10m funeral.

Mark Thatcher (right) and his wife Sarah, and Carol Thatcher (2nd left) with Marco Grass, At the house: Mark Thatcher (right) and his wife Sarah, and Carol Thatcher (2nd left) with Marco Grass
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And John Christensen, of the Tax Justice Network, said: “How can a former prime minister spend more than two decades living in a house in London that has been owned for many years by a company based in the British Virgin Islands?

“This does not pass the smell test and simply cannot be allowed to happen in 21st Century Britain.

"We all have a duty to pay our taxes, and that includes former politicians.

"Politicians and in particular prime ministers have a duty to be transparent with their financial affairs.”

Records at the government’s Land Registry HQ in Croydon, South London showed that on March 29, 2006, Bakeland paid £2,395,807 for the house at Chester Square in Belgravia, London.

It is unclear who they purchased the house from because they were also named on the lease when the house was originally bought on October 30, 1991 for a reported £700,000 in 1991.

There are two leases on the property, which a Land Registry source described as “unusual”.

The first one was taken out on October 18, 1991, and lasts until December 25, 2030.

The second was taken out on July 29 and runs out in 2055.

The latest lease mysteriously stated: “The airspace above the building is excluded from the title.”

The trail: Ownership criss-crosses the globe

Bakeland Property Company Ltd trustees were originally listed as Jersey-based Hugh Thurston and Leonard Day, her friends and financial advisers.

In 2002 The Guardian reported that Bakeland’s shares were held by Mr Day and Mr Thurston.

Accountants said they were acting as nominees for a trust with concealed beneficiaries.

As Lady Thatcher did not own the house herself it is possible, depending on the terms of her will, that her children Mark and Carol could benefit.

If the property was listed in the name of their mother they would been subject to 40% tax on the entire value of the home – an estimated £2.4m.

Both Mark and Carol visited the house in Chester Square last night.

Tax campaigner Mr Christensen added: “There are huge financial benefits for an offshore company to own a property or leasehold particulaly in connection with stamp duty and inheritance tax.

“A company doesn’t die. If a person dies the property has to be passed on to someone else – obviously this is not the case with a company.

“This can be very beneficial indeed and can save a large amount of money in taxes which would be othewise due.”

The Mirror called the British Virgin Financial Services Commission which confirmed that the company which now owns Thatcher’s house had been based there since August 19, 2005.

The question marks over the Thatcher home come as police in London prepare for demos this weekend following the former Prime Minister’s death on Monday.

Anarchists threatened a mass “party” to celebrate her death and protesters say a demonstration in Trafalgar Square today will be a focus for discontent in the run-up to Wednesday’s funeral.
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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 16:01 #436

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I can't help but wonder what those Tory fucks are going to pull on the 17th, (her funeral), as a good day to also bury really bad news.
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Yet another of Thatcher's legacies - back in the 80s you could get full funding to do a degree, get a full grant and IIRC even sign on over the summer.
Thatcher set the wheels in motion to dismantle this, leading to further education putting anyone who isn't rich into massive debt.

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Baroness Thatcher has died following a stroke, her spokesman Lord Bell says 13 Apr 2013 16:21 #438

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
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I hope that jesus wins. My rancour does not go so far as Hell.

I hope and I ave prayed that she is saved.

Any soul that repents should be saved.

Then there is purgatory. Which is the pain of knowing just why and wha you have done. Xmas Caorl by Dickens is a perfect example/ It is the balance of Mercy and Justice.


And as a Catholic I pray to support souls in that hour of terrible realisation.

IIt is complicated and Dan Brown is dick
I wouldn't profess to be an expert on repenting, but as far as I can see Thatcher went to her grave believing she was 100% right in everything she did. I don't think she repented anything.

she went to the grave with dementia, so it is unlikely she repented anything,quite like a lot of people one comes across in life...everyone makes mistakes at some point in their life...



According to a later article in The Daily Telegraph, Thatcher's daughter Carol first revealed that her mother had dementia in 2005, saying that "Mum doesn't read much any more because of her memory loss .. It's pointless. She can't remember the beginning of a sentence by the time she reaches the end." She later recounted how she was first struck by her mother's dementia when she muddled the Falklands conflict with the Yugoslav wars; she has also recalled the pain of needing to tell her mother repeatedly that Denis Thatcher was dead...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher#Final_years
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Another of Thatcher's legacies not yet mentioned is the 80s heroin epidemic - fueled by entire communities reduced to mass unemployment with no hope of digging themselves out of poverty. Heroin also crept into the traveler community after her brutal suppression of people who dared to live an unorthodox lifestyle - creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of travelers being feckless criminals after their community was ripped apart by brute force.
But don't worry! They govt were on hand to make it all better with the power of just saying no.



The next generation have been somewhat inoculated by seeing the havoc wreaked.
But I'm sure poverty despair management will find a new drug. Mephedrone perhaps (or whatever passes for it these days)., as that seems to have taken off in some deprived areas.

You cant be saying Pikies are feckless criminals...isnt so old chap as I found out on here. But seems you are now confirming this :coffee:
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