diamondgeezer wrote:
Do you think this modern 'civilization' of ours is the first one to have developed the technology capable of space travel?
I think man did land on the moon, but the exact details I think are more complicated than the simplistic history lesson most of us are accustom to. I like the little hint you made toward previously advanced human civilizations, and later a potential extraterrestrial influence, Diamond.
When I think of the events that led up to the space race, I can't but help but question the official story of the lunar landing. It's no secret that the Russians and Americans had help with developing their space programs from acquired Nazi SS scientists, via Operation paperclip. The things the Nazis had developed were far ahead of their time. The rocket used to bring lunar lander out of Earth's atmosphere was based off of Wernher Von Braun's v2 rocket.
Where did their inspiration come from? I won't knock brilliance because of depravity, as the Nazis were certainly depraved. It's interesting to note the interest the Nazis had in mythology, and tracing it's roots. That eventually lead them to India and Nepal. After studying the various religious texts, it's alleged they 'stumbled upon' some detailed ancient blueprints for flying machines and advanced propulsion systems amongst the ancient documents. These were said to be copied and brought back to Germany. Combine this with the strange channeling of the Vril society, and you have strange happenings. Fu-fighters zipping by allied fighters and bombers, weird bell-shaped crafts seen flying around, silver rotating discs, and silent illuminated flying crafts all were sighted throughout WWII and into to the 1950's. There were a few people who talked to Von Braun (Allen Greenfield,Carol Rosin), who claimed he told them they were helped by ETs.
One thing bothers me though about the lunar landing and the trip there. There exists a fairly potent area between the moon and Earth comprised of intense radiation and electromagnetism called the Van Allen belt.
My issue is how they were able shield the astronauts and sensitive equipment on board. I asked this question on DIF when I was still active, and was given an answer I thought was amusing. I was told they flew over the belt, as if it were some two-dimensional donut shaped object. The problem there is the other intense gamma rays and bursts emanating from the sun outside of the range of the belt. Either way the astronauts would have been heavily exposed to radiation and electromagnetism. I don't proclaim to be an aeronautics and astronautics engineer, so I can't tell you how any of components were designed, manufactured, and assembled. The question still remains though, how did they shield from that? The two most common things used for blocking radiation are lead and concrete mixtures. A less commonly used material, but more effective, is gold. Both gold and lead are very dense would have made it difficult for liftoff with the added weight I think would be required to effectively shield the cosmic energy. So then what are we left with?
Allegedly the Nazis were heavily involved with some directed energy technology. Most of the research on that is focused on sound, laser, and microwave technology. How-ever there was some research that focused on ionized plasma technology. It's interesting that after the fall of Nazi regime in 1945, the Russians would begin R & D on various applications of plasma technology, likely aided by acquired former Nazi SS. There are several theories, papers, and even patents which utilize forms of plasma and magnetism for radiation shielding.
What I have been wondering is if NASA was using repurposed plasma/directed energy tech for radiation blocking? They were using the v2, and other Nazi developed forms of technology, so I don't think it's entirely out of the question.
There are many ancient cultures who have some interesting mythology related to the moon, and 'gods' that inhabited it. Could that have been the motivation for going there, maybe in hopes of bringing back any leftover technology? Personally I wonder if they got there, and found that it wasn't entirely abandoned... I think it might explain why no one has been back there officially since, otherwise I suspect the planetary resources initiative would have happened a long time ago.
. There was better computing technology available to the military and the fine folks at NASA than that.
