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Poll: Apollo Moon Landing

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TOPIC: Did man land on the moon in 1969?

Re: Did man land on the moon in 1969? 18 Nov 2013 09:07 #61

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grackus wrote:
I wonder what happened to NASA's attempts at controlling the weather?

I remember thelyran / Billy Ruben on DIF posting links to a 'climate pact' or similar, where countries had signed and agreed to not use technology that changes the weather in warfare against one another... at least thats what my memory recalls, that it was along those lines, it was a while back now.

Now, if they are signing pacts to not use shit against eachother, does this tell us that said shit does indeed exist? :hahano:
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Re: Did man land on the moon in 1969? 18 Nov 2013 15:51 #62

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novum wrote:
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I wonder what happened to NASA's attempts at controlling the weather?

I remember thelyran / Billy Ruben on DIF posting links to a 'climate pact' or similar, where countries had signed and agreed to not use technology that changes the weather in warfare against one another... at least thats what my memory recalls, that it was along those lines, it was a while back now.

Now, if they are signing pacts to not use shit against eachother, does this tell us that said shit does indeed exist? :hahano:

Hi novum

I had a little look for what you were referring to, but found nothing so far, but it's probably my researching skills.

But as it is I believe that projects like HAARP and SDI (Star Wars) are far more important to the guys that put things into low earth orbit than a bunch of tits pratting about on the moon.
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Did man land on the moon in 1969? 18 Nov 2013 16:06 #63

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Re: Did man land on the moon in 1969? 13 Feb 2014 18:31 #64

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Mrindigo wrote:

One thing bothers me though about the lunar landing and the trip there. There exists a fairly potent area between the moon and Earth comprised of intense radiation and electromagnetism called the Van Allen belt.

350px Van Allen Radiation Belt.svg


My issue is how they were able shield the astronauts and sensitive equipment on board. I asked this question on DIF when I was still active, and was given an answer I thought was amusing. I was told they flew over the belt, as if it were some two-dimensional donut shaped object. The problem there is the other intense gamma rays and bursts emanating from the sun outside of the range of the belt. Either way the astronauts would have been heavily exposed to radiation and electromagnetism. I don't proclaim to be an aeronautics and astronautics engineer, so I can't tell you how any of components were designed, manufactured, and assembled. The question still remains though, how did they shield from that? The two most common things used for blocking radiation are lead and concrete mixtures. A less commonly used material, but more effective, is gold. Both gold and lead are very dense would have made it difficult for liftoff with the added weight I think would be required to effectively shield the cosmic energy. So then what are we left with?

Using heavy metals to shield against cosmic radiation would be counter productive.

These to links should help you understand how radiation was dealt with in the Apollo program.

www.clavius.org/envradintro.html

www.clavius.org/envrad.html
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Did man land on the moon in 1969? 13 Feb 2014 19:23 #65

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Re: Did man land on the moon in 1969? 13 Feb 2014 21:24 #66

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ronisron wrote:
I remember reading that the whole moon mission was computer controlled by a system that was akin to a 286 comp with about 8KB of RAM..... Then I thought; "I don't think so" :chuckle: . There was better computing technology available to the military and the fine folks at NASA than that.

All we ever see are their table scraps, we never get the main course.
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I couldn't agree more friend, I couldn't agree more. The idea that there's more computing power in a graphing calculator than there was in the NASA computers is funny. It does indeed point to undisclosed tech, some of which we're using now. :thumbup:

Those figures are for the guidance computer aboard the spacecraft. Actually calling the Apollo guidance system a computer is probably a bit of an exaggeration. It's more closely related to what we call a microcontroller today, or perhaps a digital autopilot. The number crunching was done at Mission Control on several mainframe computers that took up entire rooms. The results were transmitted to the Apollo guidance computer which acted on them. The onboard computer could only compute a small number of navigational problems itself but was capable of doing the task it was designed for.
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Re: Did man land on the moon in 1969? 13 Feb 2014 21:41 #67

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Lunar Orbit wrote:
ronisron wrote:
I remember reading that the whole moon mission was computer controlled by a system that was akin to a 286 comp with about 8KB of RAM..... Then I thought; "I don't think so" :chuckle: . There was better computing technology available to the military and the fine folks at NASA than that.

All we ever see are their table scraps, we never get the main course.
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I couldn't agree more friend, I couldn't agree more. The idea that there's more computing power in a graphing calculator than there was in the NASA computers is funny. It does indeed point to undisclosed tech, some of which we're using now. :thumbup:





Those figures are for the guidance computer aboard the spacecraft. Actually calling the Apollo guidance system a computer is probably a bit of an exaggeration. It's more closely related to what we call a microcontroller today, or perhaps a digital autopilot. The number crunching was done at Mission Control on several mainframe computers that took up entire rooms. The results were transmitted to the Apollo guidance computer which acted on them. The onboard computer could only compute a small number of navigational problems itself but was capable of doing the task it was designed for.

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Re: Did man land on the moon in 1969? 13 Feb 2014 21:47 #68

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jhado wrote:
Lunar Orbit wrote:
ronisron wrote:
I remember reading that the whole moon mission was computer controlled by a system that was akin to a 286 comp with about 8KB of RAM..... Then I thought; "I don't think so" :chuckle: . There was better computing technology available to the military and the fine folks at NASA than that.

All we ever see are their table scraps, we never get the main course.
Mrindigo wrote:
I couldn't agree more friend, I couldn't agree more. The idea that there's more computing power in a graphing calculator than there was in the NASA computers is funny. It does indeed point to undisclosed tech, some of which we're using now. :thumbup:





Those figures are for the guidance computer aboard the spacecraft. Actually calling the Apollo guidance system a computer is probably a bit of an exaggeration. It's more closely related to what we call a microcontroller today, or perhaps a digital autopilot. The number crunching was done at Mission Control on several mainframe computers that took up entire rooms. The results were transmitted to the Apollo guidance computer which acted on them. The onboard computer could only compute a small number of navigational problems itself but was capable of doing the task it was designed for.

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Did man land on the moon in 1969? 14 Feb 2014 19:20 #69

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GoldenSun wrote:
Well it seems that I am not in the mindset of being a believer of the Moon Landing hoax. There are so many clues you idiots and one for a fact is that the machinery to propell this vechile to The Moon was to be needed when the vechile returned back.
I am talking to idiots in this craphouse of a DiF wannabee forum

Bold mine.

Total poppycock.
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Re: Did man land on the moon in 1969? 14 Feb 2014 19:27 #70

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Haven't looked into the theory as to whether they did or didn't to be honest. Stuck my head into threads on other places from time to time and ran back out again :emb:

If anyone's got any short, sharp, shock links that have some hard evidence that they didn't land, I'd be up for watching them some rainy day.

I think Kubrick filmed the first moon landing. Apparently there are the same light anomalies in the moon landing footage as there are in 2001 space oddysea (sp?) and he put them there deliberately so people would someday know the truth. His film 'eyes wide shut' was released 30 yrs to the day after the moon landing. there is other stuff but can't remember at the moment.

There are no light anomalies in the moon landing footage but there are plenty of mistakes in 2001 space odyssey which are easy to spot.
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Did man land on the moon in 1969? 14 Feb 2014 19:50 #71

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Do you realise that all the members you've responded to in here, bar one, are no longer posting here?
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Did man land on the moon in 1969? 14 Feb 2014 19:55 #72

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psketti wrote:
Do you realise that all the members you've responded to in here, bar one, are no longer posting here?


No i didn't. Never mind, should anyone else read the thread then the answers to the points raised will be there for them if they are interested.
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Did man land on the moon in 1969? 14 Feb 2014 21:56 #73

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The strongest evidence IMHO is simply the laser distance reflector.
Yet its rarely brought up.
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andyh wrote:
The strongest evidence IMHO is simply the laser distance reflector.
Yet its rarely brought up.

It is possible to set up arrays on the Moon using unmanned craft, the Soviet Lunokhod 1 and Lunokhod 2 rovers did just that and so the hoax believers just hand wave that away.
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Lunar Orbit wrote:
andyh wrote:
The strongest evidence IMHO is simply the laser distance reflector.
Yet its rarely brought up.

It is possible to set up arrays on the Moon using unmanned craft, the Soviet Lunokhod 1 and Lunokhod 2 rovers did just that and so the hoax believers just hand wave that away.

Not 3 reflectors all coinciding with and tested at the times of the apollo landings.

The two soviet ones were of smaller design and are also there, so the conspiracy lot would have to account for unmanned probes dropping all the lot in perfect position in both space and time. No doubt secret missions for it all :roll:

They can handwave all they like tbh, they could say friendly aliens put them there and still believe it.
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Did man land on the moon in 1969? 14 Feb 2014 23:20 #76

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andyh wrote:
Lunar Orbit wrote:
andyh wrote:
The strongest evidence IMHO is simply the laser distance reflector.
Yet its rarely brought up.

It is possible to set up arrays on the Moon using unmanned craft, the Soviet Lunokhod 1 and Lunokhod 2 rovers did just that and so the hoax believers just hand wave that away.

Not 3 reflectors all coinciding with and tested at the times of the apollo landings.

The two soviet ones were of smaller design and are also there, so the conspiracy lot would have to account for unmanned probes dropping all the lot in perfect position in both space and time. No doubt secret missions for it all :roll:

They can handwave all they like tbh, they could say friendly aliens put them there and still believe it.

Secret missions is the most sane idea I have heard from the hoax believers. Others include:

They just dont exist and those who say they use them are all in on the hoax, many country's, organizations etc.

Dragged out from secret bases on the Moon either they be man made or a man alien venture.

Taken there using technology gained from back engendering of captured alien craft or in cahoots with aliens.

And so on and so on.
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