dawnbreak wrote: I'd also be happy if the split never happened Dawn but it's not fair to single Mikey ou for it. All of us here at the time were "partially" to blame. Either by active participation in the fall out or by inactivity.

dawnbreak wrote:
Well I did marry her and stay with her for 16 years, so yeah says a lot for how coherent and consistent she is.

knobmeup wrote:
Thank you. May I remind everyone that DG, Frag and Novum decided to make the split, set up the forum TZ and then announced the split to SZ. In that order.

whats up all of your guys butts today?

batou wrote:
an arsehole and a load of shit

what else?

batou wrote:
Abs is absent :p

Gilly wrote: You can write in different styles for different socks, it's really not that difficult. It's also very easy to adopt a persona if nothing you're saying is sincere. I could easily have a sock account that put forward completely different views to my own, and you would never know it was me. I just obviously wouldn't waste my time with such childishness.

I find it very hard to believe that a completely new person would coincidentally use that picture, given the literally billions of possible avatars that anyone could use, but I suppose there are possible explanations for this.

But it doesn't really matter, I just don't like to see arguments which are avoidable.

FTR wub, SZ has about 20 stock avatars. The penguin is one of them

batou wrote:
Oh my Bats....you offering honey?

knobmeup wrote: That would be another good explanation.

So once again, back on topic:

I have admiration for anybody that is interested in self-sufficiency, survival in the wild and raising awareness about how to survive and help others survive natural disasters.

OTOH I posted this earlier but it got buried under insults, accusation and obfuscation:
mikey mikey wrote:
Almost all of the Doom-mongers and Rapture Ready and Preppers-for SHTF display a disturbing level of anticipation for the terrible events they are getting ready for. They also seem to display a fundamental lack of concern, respect and empathy for their fellow human beings.
IME when challenged they respond with something like I received today "you will be the first to die" and "non-believer!" etcetera.

Even challenging their literature, or even just quoting their literature's more alarming sections is met with anger, accusations and even threats/prophecies of doom.

I can make lentil soup with a bag of lentils , five twigs, a pot, and a lighter

dawnbreak wrote:
Aww Dawney...I loves ya gal! D Don't ever stop being you!

dawnbreak wrote:
You used a stock cube last time aswell,,,,,,,, x

lonewolf wrote:
Looking back through the thread, I notice that Jane had pressed the "thank you" under this. Perhaps this is an indication that Jane also thinks that instead of 2012, it will be (yet again) just around the corner.

Or perhaps not. That will become clear soon enough.

And if indeed, it is indeed the case, then it will go a long way to explaining just why Jane called me a pig, told me to fuck off and wind my neck and indeed generally behave in such an aggressive manner.

Despite claims to be apolitical, the whole survivalist=militia thing is anything but apolitical. It might not be party political, but it the literature quoted in this thread and the website link is most certainly political.

jhado wrote:
I can make

mikey mikey wrote:
What have you been smoking mate?

jhado wrote:
What are you referring to? I kinda made a few points in the post you quoted.

I've already lived in the middle of nowhere, had a stove, backup wind genny with 240v invertor and my own private water supply, grown my own food and also kept some guinea fowl.
Despite all this, I never once thought the world was going to end, get shittier slowly by the day, yes.
Mad max scenario though? Hardly.

I've also never once thought that anyone could make it without the support of others. You could probably have a fairly self sufficient village but the lone bunker option is just a joke unless you're loaded to buy the land and resources for the task.
My stove alone cost £1200 let alone the rest of the kit (which I barely recouped in the time I spent there btw), I have a family to feed, if it was just myself then I would hardly worry about trying to 'dig in' somewhere in the first place, you stay on the move and graze what you can. When you don't have endless resources to hand then you turn nomadic until you find somewhere suitable and most people do indeed live in areas that are not suited to living without utilities in the first place.
I've heard all sorts of crazy ideas tbh and never seen much that was truly realistic or affordable long term unless you get lucky and I got lucky with the rent arrangement I had in Ireland, I can't see many landlords in the UK being happy with people paying low rent and getting acres of land included and help installing a stove etc.
Even Cathars long life tins must be going past their sell by date by now, all that money down the pisser...now whats he going to do?
Go out and buy more ffs lol? I mean ffs, does anyone really get this? If the end comes, it comes.
How you deal with it will depend mostly on willpower, ruthlessness and common sense, not on bear grylls bullshit or cans of beans.
You can forget hollywood.
You need a varied diet, warmth/shelter, CLEAN water and you'd need it long term and if its not just yourself then its a monumental task.
The exception is if you're one of these sun gazing 'breathe-airians' or whatever the fuck, lol.

andyh wrote:
At long fucking last!!!!