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Self-sufficiency is the state of not requiring any aid, support, or interaction, for survival; it is therefore a type of personal or collective autonomy. The term self-sufficiency is usually applied to varieties of sustainable living in which nothing is consumed outside of what is produced by the self-sufficient individuals. Examples of attempts at self-sufficiency include simple living, homesteading, off-the-grid, survivalism, DIY ethic and the back-to-the-land movement. Practices that enable or aid self-sufficiency include autonomous building, permaculture, sustainable agriculture, and renewable energy. The term is also applied to limited forms of self-sufficiency, for example growing one's own food or becoming economically independent of state subsidies. Read more: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-sufficiency

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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 17:08 #41

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lw, you seem to have terrible luck in that everyone you meet is somehow better avoided. It would be interesting to get all their views on you ;)

But you like animals! :roll:
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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 17:11 #42

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lw, you seem to have terrible luck in that everyone you meet is somehow better avoided. It would be interesting to get all their views on you ;)

But you like animals! :roll:
I prefer animals to people-they don't play mind games or stab you in the back.
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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 17:16 #43

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Our fucking cat does :hahano:
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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 17:37 #44

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if I'm still here, I may have moved on by then out of sheer boredom!! :P course if your wrong there wont be any electric for you to power up your computer, then who'll look the tit?

Thats what cathar said, several hundred times over each time he got it wrong ofc :)
I've seen this doom shit for decades now, same old story, different dates, epic fail every time.
Tech advancement has basically always...advanced, lol. New methods of distribution of resources including energy happen all the time.
No matter what nature hurls at us, we always bounce back and that even after mini ice-ages, tornadoes, earthquakes, meteor strikes, you name it.
I've yet to see any solid evidence of impending doom for the entire human race with guaranteed life of leisure for the likes of yourself and knightofthegrail and his harem of 6 wives in the middle of nowhere. I sometimes wonder if he was a closet nihilist muslim :D
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How diverse would the genetic pool need to be to protect the surviving community from interbreeding?

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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 17:43 #46

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knobmeup wrote:
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I'd rather have nothing to do with them, and go of somewhere on my own.
Which is ofc absolutely fine. But that stops a long way short of misanthropy and wanting to be "the last man standing".
I'm starting to think you're not quite as big a misanthrope as you'd have us believe :)
i don't know, i can see me being last man standing and loving every minute of it! :D
So, I know you said you'll be long gone if tshtf. I guess you have a bolt hole in mind. If you were in your bolt hole and a family came by, bearing the odd injury and with little provisions. What would you do?
yes, I've got a BOL(bug out location) in mind, several as it happens, they are so remote that the above scenario wouldn't happen but if it did, I'd probably have to shoot them as they now know where we are and that we have food, they could come back with others and try to break in, so it would be better for them if they didn't find us.....this is assuming a total breakdown of society with no rule of law of course. if there wasn't(wrol) and I could still get replacement supplies I MIGHT fix the injury-if I could(I've got lots of military type first aid kits), probably give them a meal and send them on their way, but the survivalist in me thinks it will be the former.
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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 17:46 #47

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andyh wrote:
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if I'm still here, I may have moved on by then out of sheer boredom!! :P course if your wrong there wont be any electric for you to power up your computer, then who'll look the tit?

Thats what cathar said, several hundred times over each time he got it wrong ofc :)
I've seen this doom shit for decades now, same old story, different dates, epic fail every time.
Tech advancement has basically always...advanced, lol. New methods of distribution of resources including energy happen all the time.
No matter what nature hurls at us, we always bounce back and that even after mini ice-ages, tornadoes, earthquakes, meteor strikes, you name it.
I've yet to see any solid evidence of impending doom for the entire human race with guaranteed life of leisure for the likes of yourself and knightofthegrail and his harem of 6 wives in the middle of nowhere. I sometimes wonder if he was a closet nihilist muslim :D
like I said before-to Mikey I think it was- prepping is INSURANCE- we hope it WONT happen but if it DOES we are covered.
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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 18:12 #48

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lonewolf wrote:
don't know really!! I was just surfing around, was on DIF but got bored of all the talk about aliens, magic and masons, some one invited me to go on TZ where I heard some remark about SZ took me some time to find out what SZ was but finally I found out-I've come off TZ completely today and here I am. I was hoping to interest some people about prepping but I think Mikey's put the kybosh on that!!
There are some of us here who get totally what you are saying and appreciate your input, if you were left in peace to get on with saying what you want to without being harangued all the time.
I admire your tenacity LW.
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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 18:25 #49

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So are we not allowed to put our POV forward without haranguing LW?

WTF are we supposed to do?

You do realise that this thread was created because of a tangent from another member's thread that was about Dr. Abbas to which LW said quite literally "don't give a fuck" , don't you?

Oh that's right, cos you posted on it!

Survivalism is above criticism! Silence the "non-believers"!
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knobmeup wrote:
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how about 3 marriages and 2 divorces?+ several relationships in between.
I suppose that could be construed as a reason for not liking women though tbf there are plenty that have had failed relationships that don't hate women. Myself included. It could never be considered as a reason for a misanthropic world view though could it.
Go on, tell me why you really opted to hate people. Pretty please :)

So...in my case 2 divorces and one failed relationship, that lasted longer than both my marriages put together, means I hate men yes?
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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 18:34 #51

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mikey mikey wrote:
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you've read it then?

I haven't listened to a Spice Girls album all the way through, either.

You're a pig of the first degree
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I like pigs. I don't like listening to the Spice Girls cos their music is manufactured muzak devoid of talent. I also do not wish to read the jingoistic ramblings of a right wing fundamentalist Christian telling me how I need to buy guns and tinned food so that I can turn my back on my fellow human beings in the event of some misanthropic fantasy about global catastrophe.

So either of those dislikes makes me a pig: oinkedy oink oink
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I like the 4 legged variety too....you're not of that kind
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angelchemuel wrote:
I like the 4 legged variety too....you're not of that kind

Because I don't like the spice girls?

Because I call a wingnut supremacist selfish gun crazy fundie bigot author a wingnut supremacist selfish gun crazy fundie bigot?

Hokay, in that case I'll be an assehole, prick dickhead and a cunt, if that is what I have to be in your opinion. If that is what it takes to keep my POV, then you are free to call me a sonovabitch a bastard and a slag if you like.

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emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 19:08 #55

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mikey mikey wrote:
angelchemuel wrote:
I like the 4 legged variety too....you're not of that kind

Because I don't like the spice girls?

Because I call a wingnut supremacist selfish gun crazy fundie bigot author a wingnut supremacist selfish gun crazy fundie bigot?

Hokay, in that case I'll be an assehole, prick dickhead and a cunt, if that is what I have to be in your opinion. If that is what it takes to keep my POV, then you are free to call me a sonovabitch a bastard and a slag if you like.

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That's obviously your opinion of yourself....I never called you those names....just a pig and that will suffice
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That's obviously your opinion of yourself....I never called you those names....just a pig and that will suffice

I never said you did. I just thought I'd make it clear just how much your name calling bothers me.

Anyway back on topic...

The book recommended by Lone Wolf was written by James Wesley Rawles
The American Redoubt is a strategic relocation movement first proposed in 2011 by best-selling survivalist novelist and blogger James Wesley Rawles[1][2] which designates three states in the northwestern United States (Idaho, Montana, Wyoming), and adjoining portions of two other states (eastern Oregon, and eastern Washington) as a safe haven for survivalists, conservatives, Christians and Jews.[1][3] Kim Murphy, a reporter for The Los Angeles Times summed up one motivation for the movement: "For a growing number of people, it's the designated point of retreat when the American economy hits the fan. When banks fail, the government declares martial law, the power grid goes down."[1] The same article identified Rawles as "the guru of the movement."[1]

Summarizing one of his reasons for formulating the relocation strategy, Rawles, who is outspokenly anti-racist[4][5] and pro-Israel[6] stated: "I'm often asked why I make such a 'big deal' about choosing conservative Christians, Messianic Jews, or Orthodox Jews for neighbors. The plain truth is that in a societal collapse there will be a veritable vacuum of law enforcement. In such times, with a few exceptions, it will only be the God-fearing that will continue to be law-abiding. Choose your neighborhood wisely."[7]

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Oddly enough, even though lone wolf recommends this author, he posted this view only a couple of days ago.
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yep, religion again, the reason for most wars, that and oil of course, just ask Tony B.Liar and George Wanker Bush.
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Re:emergency preparedness UK 28 Dec 2013 19:30 #57

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angelchemuel wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
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you've read it then?



I haven't listened to a Spice Girls album all the way through, either.



You're a pig of the first degree


Wtf?
For not listening to the spice girls?
Lol!!!
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Wtf?
For not listening to the spice girls?
Lol!!!

I tell you wadda want wadda I really really want

I really really really want a secret ranch, an arsenal of firearms. three years supply of food and my own generator!
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angelchemuel wrote:
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how about 3 marriages and 2 divorces?+ several relationships in between.
I suppose that could be construed as a reason for not liking women though tbf there are plenty that have had failed relationships that don't hate women. Myself included. It could never be considered as a reason for a misanthropic world view though could it.
Go on, tell me why you really opted to hate people. Pretty please :)

So...in my case 2 divorces and one failed relationship, that lasted longer than both my marriages put together means i hate men yes?
How the icke did you get that from my words, Jane? :conf:
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angelchemuel wrote:
knobmeup wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
how about 3 marriages and 2 divorces?+ several relationships in between.

I suppose that could be construed as a reason for not liking women though tbf there are plenty that have had failed relationships that don't hate women. Myself included. It could never be considered as a reason for a misanthropic world view though could it.

Go on, tell me why you really opted to hate people. Pretty please :)



So...in my case 2 divorces and one failed relationship, that lasted longer than both my marriages put together, means I hate men yes?



Jane wtf are you smoking?
Knob clearly quoted LW..not you.
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