irrepressible wrote:
NO!!!!! Eeeewww, that nasty Icke thingy of "rewarding the paying worthy" and withholding from those who don't pay. Me don't'a like! And you know it You'll be suggesting next that people who donate can get exclusive access to a series of videos of Abs off on a weekend.

We any and every pay what we can when we're able, as admin has requested, or not!

No rewards or punishments. No favours granted, etc.

<<<< Limbering up ready to take out the dog.

The Apprentice wrote:
No I do understand what you're saying. Computers and the internet aren't necessary for our survival as a species. Practical real world skills, they are.

We're on this website right now, for a number of reasons, and while we're on it, it has to be paid for. That's all I'm saying.

irrepressible wrote:
Yes, obviously the server/hosting costs are the most important thing in regards to having a site like this going.

All the other extras can be done without, but if the server costs arent payed for well they wont host us for free.

That being said some are paying out their own pocket and will continue so the place stays here, regardless of donations or not.

As with you irre, I do understand what The Apprentice is saying also...of course the globalists do their best to interrupt local skills and economies, and many do lose the fight or the will to keep going the way things were, as they have around me.

So here we are finding eachother on this medium, and unfortunately it has monthly server costs or it is shut down.

Yes I do understand what your saying, and when the avatar has gone only we will remain to teach those without knowlege, the knowledge of how to survive without a computer, that is my main reason for being here.

Nothing else really matters.
irrepressible wrote:

cantata wrote:
I agree

I don't like paying for "rewards for the worthy" either

(To anyone outside of our membership This is just my opinion and I'm entitled to it )

(I shall not speak of these things again I want to live in peace on both sides of the fence )

irrepressible wrote:

Stop explaining yourself irre

You don't have too... and if there's anywhere that you do have too, then that's their problem and not yours lad.

This is good, I'll sort a donation when I have broadband sorted at my place.
I don't want to use the work PC with my bank card

im sure daavid would donate by ways of sexual favours

cantata wrote:
How did you know about those? Damn your eyes, X-Hamster!!

Ab Origine wrote:

hey, i know you say paypal etc.. but is there other ways to donate? i dont have a bank acct lol
say you pm me your address ill send you a birthday card with some thing in it

andyh wrote:
Good idea who knows what the hell is in that thing and where its been

batou wrote:
How about a credit card then?

(im kidding im kidding )

Yes I cant see why not, ill talk to DG and Frog about it...since DG is covering the server costs at the moment it should go to him in my opinion so its put towards the server bills.

how do you get paypal and

a) what is it, how does it work? (I know what it is per-say but will it cost me to set up?)

b) If I was to donate could I do it directly with my bank card or is that insecure


I would like to contribute but a bit nervous about typing my bank details into a computer

Which method is secure?

dawnbreak wrote:
The process is as secure as it gets in the current digital domain. Using a credit card is the safest option rather than a debit card.

The donation system is handled by paypal directly on their site. At no point are any members credit card details accessible on our website! The paypal donation system can accept contributions from a wide range of credit cards, as well as your paypal account.

dawnbreak wrote:
As frog said dawn, the transaction is handled by paypal, on their site.

The donate buttons here just take people who press it to paypals site, paypal doesnt allow it any other way for security reasons. Anyone using it can check their browser address and see they are on paypals site, and it is https secure SSL.

Once there, dontations can either be made by anybody with a debit or credit card, or alternatively a paypal account for those who have one.

When donating with a card...If anyone has ever used their credit or debit card online when shopping, then it is just like that.

Alternatively, setting up a paypal account is free, all you need is a valid email...then you can deposit small amounts of money in there from your bank account, so it is very safe in my opinion.

I have had a paypal since 2003 and never had any security issues whatsoever.

Once again...because paypal acts as the third party merchant and all transactions are handled by them, we never see anyones credit/debit card details here whatsoever.

What basically happens is, donors give funds to them, and they pass the funds onto us, they are like the secure middleman.

The Apprentice wrote:
Maybe computers will get soo good, that we will be able to downoad the skills straight into our brains!! just like Neo

Frog wrote:
Really?

Why so?

domathy wrote:
"I know Origami"

"I know how to build a model of the Titanic out of matchsticks"

I'm trying to think up generally pointless skills, that are useless to the betterment of mankind

irrepressible wrote:
I would sell my soul completely if i could download brain apps such as those
I'd love to get the 'social skills' app too