I mentioned the subject of Transhumanism a few times in recent posts, and when I read the following article from Before It's News, I thought it was an apt moment to start a thread. I've posted this under General because I couldn't think of any other category where this fitted in better.

This is one the biggest issues we all face and is guaranteed to get more and more prominence in the coming months and years, so it's wise to be aware of what it is, how it works and what we can do as individuals, parents, to take best care of ourselves and the ones we love.

** The photo of the Huxley brothers in the article below is very chilling

beforeitsnews.com/story/2420/581/Transhu...urping_Humanity.html

It has its roots with the mormon religion imho.
Julian Huxley was one evil sob, certainly nothing like Aldous...nor for that matter as mentioned in the article could anyone describe Julian as being a 'humanist', no way! LOL!

Julian was all for culling humanity etc etc.

They were poles apart and half brothers, in fact, iirc the two of them rarely saw eye to eye?

Thanks Andy. Do you have more details on the Huxley brothers (and their father was a big shot as well I seem to remember)?

Anthony65 wrote:
Not much beyond whats already been discussed on DIF.

I do find it strange that Aldous Huxleys book Brave New World was so puerile and yet Aldous seems so damned grandiloquent that you have to wonder if he actually wrote the book
Perhaps he deliberately dumbed it down for the masses?
Aldous' work on psychedelic drugs is absolutely fascinating.

Julian Huxleys name on the other hand crops up all over the place with social engineering and malthusianism.

They were like black and white, completely different characters. I never looked in to their father.

Anthony65 wrote:
There is a short interview with Aldous Huxley here Media Zone.

There's also a short audio clip by Alan Watt about the Huxley's and humanism.

EDIT: Added Documentary The Age of Transitions.

UNESCO Youtube Channel www.youtube.com/user/unesco

Frog wrote: Thanks for the vids frog

The brothers huxley were indeed a strange pair, almost like jekyll and hyde.
Were they playing good cop, bad cop?

andyh wrote:
I'm not convinced that Aldous was such a good guy, he did a good job of predictive programming and normalising future events through his writing, although he is not proactive or as direct as his brother Julian.

Frog wrote:
There's no way of knowing for sure I guess.
He 'acted' quite reasonable.

Did you know he died the same day as JFK iirc? Also it was his wish that his missus injected him with a whole gram of LSD I think on his deathbed that day, took him a good few hours to die apparently...

andyh wrote:
I remember reading that fact before C.S Lewis also died on the same day 22nd Nov 1963.
Lewis in Oxford at 5.30pm (GMT)
Kennedy in Dallas at 6.30pm GMT (12.30pm Central Time)
Huxley in LA at 1.21am GMT [November 23] (5.21pm Pacific time November 22)

Frog wrote:
Thats right yep
The worlds full of seemingly amazing coincidences I suppose.

If you guys want to see a good doc about Aldous Huxley then you can watch 'Huxley on Huxley' I'm not sure if its on youtube or whatever. Its his wifes perspective and Laura herself is an interesting woman.

Julian was a much darker figure and more difficult to fathom but for sure Julian was one evil sob.

Surely Transhumanism as an ideology has come further since the Huxleys were around?

Max More is a vocal proponent:
"People’s freedom to innovate technologically is highly valuable, even critical, to humanity. This implies a range of responsibilities for those considering whether and how to develop, deploy, or restrict new technologies. Assess risks and opportunities using an objective, open, and comprehensive, yet simple decision process based on science rather than collective emotional reactions. Account for the costs of restrictions and lost opportunities as fully as direct effects. Favor measures that are proportionate to the probability and magnitude of impacts, and that have the highest payoff relative to their costs. Give a high priority to people’s freedom to learn, innovate, and advance." — Max More, The Proactionary Principle.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extropy_Institute

andyh wrote:
I can't find 'Huxley on Huxley' to watch on line. I found this Aldous Huxley - The Gravity of Light which I haven't watched yet.

Guevarista wrote:
Of course yep. We were just discussing its birth so to speak.
Although you could say transhumanism has been around since man discovered fire

Whats different about now is that tech (particularly computing) is undergoing exponential acceleration in advancement.
For example, I was one of the first to use a modem and prestel back in the 80's, not much happened until the 90's and the broadband connection speeds are accelerating at incredible rates yet people get quickly accustomed to it, especially younger people because they are being born in to the digital era.
My own kids have no concept of a world before the internet.

andyh wrote: That was a word that I'd forgotten ever existed!

RealAmerican wrote:
So much for hollywood eh?

I find transhumainsm to be in the same boat as transexuality. Both are taking the form and turning it into something else. Solve Et Coagula.... and that's it to me. I think it's proponents are basically Baphomet worshippers. I'm talking a voluntary switching of genders, or adding technology to the human form for so called "enhancement". Not getting a pacemaker or inner ear hearing device installed.... although if you want to nit pick, that is also a form of transhumainism as well. At least it's actually beneficial.

ronisron wrote:
Its the brain isn't it?
Thats where lots of people start to get the heebie jeebies about this topic.
You could probably replace lots of body parts and not take much issue with it, but when it comes to augmenting brain tissue with neural interfaces and/or replacing brain tissue thats when the heebie jeebies start

andyh wrote:
Yea good luck to anyone in the world who waited to protest once the police get robot suits like that...

andyh wrote:
Gender changing gives me the heebie jeebies too. It always has. But yeah, altering our brains with technology is very creepy. Our brains are damn near perfect. Why alter that? Maybe our surroundings, the food we eat, the water we drink, how we get our electricity supply... need to be altered before we start assuming that adding something to our brains is a good idea. Give our brains a chance to flourish without so many negative environmental factors.

Aldous Huxley = intelligence asset. He is brilliant, but a little twisted. Those guys, Leary and Kesey etc, they were all intelligence at one time in their lives. All brilliant, but twisted. Perfect for the intelligence community and actively participating in "field work".