I actually think the vid in this thread'sOP explains why such lengths as manufacturing the Sandy Hook charade would be gone to try to manipulate public opinion regarding gun ownership...

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/todays-news/9113...-citizens.html#96877

And furthermore, I've looked at a few forums and they are FILLED with people viciously attacking posters who try to examine the glaring discrepancies in the Sandy Hook official line. They're all over every SH thread everywhere like a hot rash.

The thing is, I'm unsure how much of that is a genuine divide based on opinion (it's fucking intense) which from my own personal viewpoint, means the campaign has been successful for its perpetrators - and how many of these people are quite literally government shills.

And from the non-conspiracy theorists stance conspiracy theorists are being whipped up over this particular story.

I suspect an anti-conspiratorial conspiracy... ...if you get my drift.

oioioi wrote:
As do I.

And if it's not too convoluted, I think that for that very reason, some deliberate red herrings are being allowed to be uncovered, leading people to draw conclusions now, which will later be disproven, with much fanfare & ridicule. Dunno what yet, but I think it's coming. Maybe birth certificates for both boys and an appropriately dated death certificate for Adam will be wheeled out.

So, I'm not sure I believe the tale at the beginning of this article re Carver admitting it was a hoax, but I've posted it because all the info about his getting the laws changed the year before to cover his arse is true (documented veidence shown, which I also saw close up on another video).

thegovernmentrag.wordpress.com/2013/01/2...e-motive-at-newtown/

Barack Obama’s regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein: Ban conspiracy theories
by EVL on January 15, 2010


Barack Obama’s regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein wants to ban all "conspiracy theories" .

Not only is that a direct attack on human rights, journalists, news companies and freedom in all areas of life but it is truly a idiotic statement to make.

In a 2008 Harvard Law paper called "Conspiracy theories" Cass Sunstein asks what can be done about conspiracy theories.

The paper contained to specific questions

1. Government might ban conspiracy theorizing.

This means that you are not allowed to ask any questions. You must believe everything that is represented to you how it is without asking any questions you must believe the government, if you do ask questions you will be jailed? This is bizarre.

2. Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories.

This guy is a complete nut job. You may not ask questions otherwise you will get taxes? What kind of society would want to live that way? This sounds a lot worse than China’s way of controlling things, it sounds the same with a bit of sauce added to the craziness.

The nut job Cass Sunstein goes even further to say that the government should infiltrate the internet and flood the internet with doubts about their factual premises.

What he is saying is, the US government should make people doubt that wants to ask questions.

The nut job goes further to say that the "conspiracy theory" of " Theory of man made global warming" should be banned. We all know now that the truth did come out by people that did not believe the man made lie about global warming.

Basically what this comes down to is that this nut job wants to ban "conspiracy theories". The word conspiracy theories is just a cover given to those that represent facts in a way that makes questions arise, which is also one of the most important aspects of journalism, to make people think and to ask questions.

I couldn't link to the above article from my phone but I was able to copy/paste.

Gilly wrote:
The plot thickens....

Very interesting article. I've been thinking about transhumanism recently and had a thought that ties to Llanza. I'll have to post it from a real computer on Monday.

K-Bone wrote:
I'll stick to speculative conjecture then

And I'd guess Cass has a few skeletons he doesn't want anyone to speculate on

If they banned governments and other authorities (churches etc) lying through their twisty little teeth, there wouldn't be such a thing as a conspiracy theorist. That would be much more beneficial.

Gilly wrote:
an open n transparent government is the only type of government to have imo... as well as other institutions ppl blindly put their trust in. if they want to stop conspiracy theories from running rampant, the only solution is to open their doors figuratively speaking. n on top of that to have a real democracy everyday ppl... citizens should have the final say not the justice system, not the congressional system, not the leader, president, queen/king, prime minister of any individual country.

K-Bone wrote:
In its own way, this goes a lot further than the gun regulation bullshit as this is directly affecting a persons very thoughts and their "freedom" and ability to think them!! Whoa be unto us all if this shit sprouts legs!! But I guess as long as "Dancing With The Stars" isn't taken off the air and Kim Kardashian's preggo-lump gets more attention than actual real-life news-worthy events, this won't matter. Dear fucking God in heaven, how the FUCK did we get here??


Oh yeah, over-blown self-importance and creature-comfort induced complacency....

phemohilia wrote:
My first thought...

K-Bone wrote:
Imo this is the point where a deep breath and a moments calm contemplation comes in handy.

This is an academic paper deliberating upon what actions may theoretically be taken with regard to a topic.
In this case, Conspiracy Theorising.

The thesis would encompass all the imaginable responses the analyst may conceive.
This is standard academic practice. All that is illustrated is that the person presenting the information has taken an objective position when presenting options.
It does not mean or indicate that they are advocating or showing a preference for any of those options.

I'm not defending this individual in particular. I know nothing of them.
I 've seen this cherry-picking tactic as a springboard for hysteria a million times though
I am stating that this is common practice when considering a problem in academia and the offered solutions may run from the sublime to the ridiculous and often on to the horrific.
All it demonstrates is that the analyst has considered the issue fully.

chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/cary-gro...-blanks-in-hallways/

Cary Grove Drill To Include Shooting Blanks In Hallways

“in an effort to provide our teachers and students some familiarity with the sound of gunfire...” ...and so they stay the fuck away from the windows when we get round to executing their neighbours on their front lawns.

oi, your reply reminded me... there was a time when every child basically knew to hit the ground if they heard anything remotely like gunshots... fucking pancake themselves into the dirt or concrete. you really didnt have to teach them to stay away from the windows or anything else. now days people stop and look around almost as if saying 'im a target, shoot me'.

Newtown students to sing in Super Bowl pregame
Mike Garafolo, USA TODAY Sports7:14p.m. EST January 30, 2013

NEW ORLEANS — A little more than a month after the tragic mass shooting of 26 students and faculty at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., a group of 26 students from the school will perform America the Beautiful during the Super Bowl XLVII pregame show, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy confirmed to USA TODAY Sports on Wednesday.

The league is flying the students and their families down to New Orleans later this week in advance of the performance, which will be broadcast live on CBS shortly before Alicia Keys performs the National Anthem.

The gesture will cap a season in which the league lent its support to the Newtown community via "S.H.E.S." stickers on helmets, personal messages on cleats and gloves, moments of silence before games and charitable donations for relief causes, as well other means of emotional support.

www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/0...-super-bowl/1878349/

More use of the youngsters.

I really do try to be considerate of the emotional turmoil folks go through but I have my limits and this tacky 'milking it' display is way past those limits.

Put the fucking picture down! We know why you're there!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21611815

There's a lot of coverage in this article of protecting the victim's feelings being used as an excuse by the MSM to reveal either nothing, or very little of the newly released 911 call recordings.

Check the link out if you want to read it (the actual recordings are linked from there) - I've just copy & pasted the crux of what the title describes.

SANDY HOOK 911 CALL RECORDINGS RAISE EVEN MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT OFFICIAL STORY OF ALLEGED MASS SHOOTING

...Instead of focusing on the content of the 911 recordings the corporate media has spent most of their energy debating the merits of releasing them and the emotional trauma it may potentially cause the so-called victim’s families. After listening to the calls, there really isn’t a whole lot of upsetting material contained within the calls themselves. It appears as if the real reason the media is using the emotional trauma card is because the recordings raise serious questions as to the authenticity of the actual event. The calls are actually boring which is another reason why we are probably seeing the media sensationalize the content.

Here’s just some general commentary on the content of the 911 recordings. These are just some of the inconsistencies.

The call marked as Tape #2 features a man by the name of Rick Thorne who says he is the acting head custodian at the school for the day. He somehow knows the school’s address off the top of his head despite the fact that he’s an interim custodian. He also seems to know everything about what’s going on inside the school even though he says he was out all morning. He goes on to say that the school was locked down which contradicts some of the other 911 call recordings from people who say that they are in classrooms with doors that aren’t locked. He also chooses to stay inside the school down a corridor even though he thinks there is somebody shooting a gun inside the building. Towards the end of Tape #2 you hear popping sounds in the background but Rick still doesn’t seem all that concerned with his safety and makes no attempt to leave the building. This is actually the only time that you distinctly hear what may or may not be gun shots in the background of these calls.

The call marked as Tape #3 features a teacher calling in with a report of gunshots in the hallway. She says she did not lock the classroom door before calling 911 despite the fact that she thinks somebody is firing a gun in the building. This is incredibly odd as you would think that she would have locked her classroom door first if someone was shooting people before making a call to 911. Even though it is possible she might not have been able to lock the door you’d think that she’d try to barricade the door with desks or something to prevent the gunman from entering her classroom. She also sounds extremely calm considering an insane person is supposedly running around murdering people.

The call marked as Tape #4 features more bizarre content. In this call someone from the Connecticut State Police says that he has a victim of the shooter who was shot in the foot and puts her on the line with the 911 call center. What is odd about this is why the victim who was shot is even on the phone to begin with when she says later in the call that there are two other adults in the room with her. This makes no sense at all. You would think that one of the other adults with her would call on her behalf considering she has just been shot. Not only that but she sounds incredibly calm for someone who was just shot in the foot by a madman who is in the midst of running around killing people. It doesn't even seem as if she's in any pain from the supposed gunshot wound. It is hard to believe that this is an authentic 911 call. It sounds more like she is participating in some sort of crisis drill or an exercise. Another question is why or how Adam Lanza would just shoot this woman in the foot and let her live if he was killing practically everyone else he encountered? If we believe the official story it doesn’t seem as if Lanza was aiming to shoot very many people in their feet. He was supposedly trying to end the lives of as many people as possible.

In the call marked as Tape #5 the acting head custodian Rick Thorne is back on the line again. At around 3:10 into this clip he says that he’s in the middle of a corridor. Why would anyone if they know there is someone firing a gun at people inside the building continue to just hang out in the middle of a corridor? There seems to be no sense of urgency what so ever on Rick’s part. It just doesn’t add up.

In the call marked Tape #6 we hear more from Rick as he reiterates that he is still in the corridor despite the fact that he knows someone is shooting a gun inside the building. He also says that he is on the line with dispatch. This is a term that a policeman, a first responder or someone working in government would typically use and is not something an average person would say while they are on the line with a 911 call center. An average person would say that they are on the phone with 911 or something along those lines. He even asks the 911 dispatcher to call state police for some reason. The language he uses gives more credence to the possibility that this might be some sort of policeman or first responder playing the role of the school’s custodian during a drill.

This Rick Thorne character raises a number of red flags because even though he is a central figure in these 911 call recordings there hasn’t been one single documented interview with this man. Roughly a year ago this was the biggest media story plastered all over television and not one of the big media outlets was able to track this guy down. This is despite the fact that some have even said he was a hero for his actions during this alleged event warning everyone that a gunman was coming. If the shootings happened as is claimed it is absurd that we know almost nothing about him.

Another red flag is that none of these calls provide any sort of description of the supposed shooter. Even the woman who got shot in the foot doesn’t bother to describe who shot her. It is totally ridiculous. There’s also no mention of any dead children or anything. There’s nothing in these calls that prove an individual matching the description of Adam Lanza was responsible for shooting anyone.

Throughout these calls there are only a few times when Rick Thorne is talking with the 911 dispatcher that popping sounds which may or may not be gun shots can be heard. The official story states that Adam Lanza fired off over 150 rounds from an AR-15 in the course of 5 minutes so we should have probably heard more gun shots throughout all of these 911 calls.

One would also think that you might hear sirens in the background especially when it seems as if Rick encounters police in the call marked as Tape #6. Instead nothing is heard.

Simply put the 911 call recordings that have been released are incredibly strange and they fail to prove that this supposed mass murder of children ever happened. There are also other emergency calls that have not yet been released and judging from what is contained in these calls alone it is possible we may never hear them due to the questions they will undoubtedly raise.

Like other questionable events such as the Boston Marathon bombing and the LAX shooting, surveillance footage which could theoretically prove the official narrative has yet to be made available. Wouldn’t a modern school like Sandy Hook have some sort of security cameras around the premises? After all, security cameras these days are relatively cheap but yet no footage of Adam Lanza running around the school with an AR-15 rifle has ever been shown.

These clowns even decided to demolish the school before an official police report on the incident was released. The people performing the demolition were forced to sign strict non-disclosure agreements undoubtedly because what they would see inside the building wouldn’t correlate to the official story. There's no doubt that they destroyed the building to cover up evidence proving that the official story is completely made up. If this is not the case, why go through all this trouble to maintain such secrecy?

How about the fact that many of the so-called victim’s family members and parents appear to be actors. Look at the ridiculous footage of Robbie Parker who is seen smiling and laughing before he begins acting sad and emotional in front of the cameras. ... Yeah, we saw it.

www.blacklistednews.com/Sandy_Hook_911_C...30985/0/5/5/Y/M.html