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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 25 Dec 2012 21:50 #841

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Again, it's rookie shit innit. Saying the car belongs to one person and then putting up pics with the plates that clearly show that to be false...I aint saying it's evidence of a conspiracy...it's certainly evidence that reporters are everything we've labelled them as in this thread though eh. :fap: ers

So this is the same car with the shotgun in the back yep?

Or is that a 2nd car Lanza used? :D
Same car apparently

So theres this car registered to a drug dealer from hundreds of miles away sat in the school car park with a shotgun in the boot which we all get to see and this is supposedly the car that Lanza used. :conf:

So this guy who's afraid of the dentist is nicking cars from drug dealers now ?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 25 Dec 2012 21:58 #842

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I dunno andy, click the link I posted and have a read. It's certainly odd to say the least
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 25 Dec 2012 22:00 #843

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I dunno andy, click the link I posted and have a read. It's certainly odd to say the least

Odd isn't the word.
Still this is also probably 'normal' according to some :roll:
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 25 Dec 2012 23:37 #844

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I dunno andy, click the link I posted and have a read. It's certainly odd to say the least

Odd isn't the word.
Still this is also probably 'normal' according to some :roll:

It seems to me that you are one of the people who considers themselves an authority on normal behaviour.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 25 Dec 2012 23:52 #845

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Tbh I'm really bored of this ping pong stuff. I feel like banging people's heads together...Including mine and Gues, but then him and me at least started to take steps back toward being civil with each other today......so please.....just take a deep breath folks and think about it for a minute...i don't expect any of us here are on the side of the corporate fucking whores that are shafting us all...i kind of get the impression that we are all being shafted...as are our children....so can we just stop the bickering and start to get at least some kind of unity going?....Please?

After all it's fucking humbug Christmas :norty:

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Btw I-b have a look at that car link if you get a chance. It does at least make the press look like a bunch of :fap: ers Which is always good ;)
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 00:09 #846

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From: Prof. James F. Tracy - Archive
About the author:
An Associate Professor of Media Studies at Florida Atlantic University, James Tracy's work on media history, politics and culture has appeared in a wide variety of academic journals, edited volumes, and alternative news and opinion outlets. Tracy is editor of Union for Democratic Communication’s journal Democratic Communiqué and a contributor to Project Censored’s forthcoming publication Censored 2013: The Top Censored Stories and Media Analysis of 2011-2012. Additional writings and information are accessible at memoryholeblog.com.
Sandy Hook's Disappearing Shooter Suspects
By Prof. James F. Tracy
Global Research, December 20, 2012Region: USA
Theme: Media Disinformation, Police State & Civil Rights

It is now beyond question that the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and Martin Luther King Jr. all involved patsies, additional gunman and perhaps most importantly, mass media complicity to achieve their political ends. Along these lines and in a fashion now characteristic of how such public executions are framed, the observations and analyses of citizen journalists and alternative media suggest how coverage of the Newtown Connecticut school shooting was substantially altered in the several hours and days following the event.
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When the news media act as willing partners in such acts the public becomes an unwitting accessory in its own psychic imprisonment, lulled into the notion that fair play still exists and public servants remain are intent on service.

“One of the most important red flags of a staged shooting is a second gunman,” health science and investigative writer Mike Adams observes, indicating the shooting was coordinated and planned. There are often mind control elements at work in many of these shootings … James Holmes, for example, was a graduate student actually working on mind control technologies funded by the U.S. government. There were also chemical mind control elements linked to Jared Lee Loughner.[1]
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Recordings of the 911 dispatcher and first responders to the campus all but wholly corroborate initial reports of at least two persons attempting to flee from the scene, with audio evidence of law enforcement officers actually encountering the suspected assailants at around 9:40AM. Excerpts were replayed on Fox News the evening of December 14.
...
.Dispatcher: All units are responding to Sandy Hook School at this time. The shooting appears to have stopped. It is silent at this time. The school is in lockdown.
Dispatcher: I have reports that the teacher saw two shadows running past the building, past the gym, which would be rear ([inaudible] … to the shooting.
Officer: Yeah. We’ve got him … [Voice quickening] They’re coming at me [inaudible] … down the left side.[3]

In the above encounter one suspect is apparently detained by police outside the school and subsequently referenced in an Associated Press interview with a Sandy Hook student who briefly sees the detained man while being evacuated from the school building.
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Accompanying aerial footage depicts officers pursuing another suspected shooter in a wooded area outside the aforementioned gym and behind school grounds. They apprehend him and he is seen prone and surrounded by police before being escorted in front of students’ parents to a squad car, an episode recounted by one anonymous bystander interviewed on a local CBS affiliate.

Unidentified Witness: They did walk a guy out of the woods. I saw them walk a guy out earlier with handcuffs. He walked by us and said he didn’t do it.
Reporter: It was a grown man?
Witness: A grown man. Yeah, he’s sittin’ in the front of the police car over there now. So, I mean—
Reporter: He didn’t have a gun?
Witness: No, I didn’t see any gun. [They] just had him handcuffed and he walked by us and looked into the parents eyes and said, “I didn’t do it.”
Reporter: How was he dressed?
Witness: Ah, camo pants with a dark jacket.[5]

Sandy Hook Official Narrative
Such information was carefully expurgated from the official narrative presented by corporate media within hours of the massacre, a storyline Americans are painfully familiar with. Here the 20 year-old Adam Lanza is depicted front and center as the chief culprit of the killing spree. Predictably there is not the slightest reference of additional suspects in ABC News’ representative “timeline” example below.
<snip>
Empowering Myths and Media Manipulation
As the lessons of 9/11 impart, when public knowledge of such horrific events is so woefully deficient the nation’s recollections become the fodder for empowering myths dangerously removed from reality. Devoid of information and effective means for political expression the masses are cajoled to exercise faith and hope in empty promises and an system providing the semblance of empathy, hope and change. Under such circumstances violent calamity, appropriately propagandized by mass media, often provides ample public distraction for decisive political maneuvering.
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“The anchors are the priests at the funeral before the funeral happens,” journalist Jon Rappoport notes. “They set the stage. They convey to the public the meaning and atmosphere and essence of the whole event. And having done that, there is simply no room for anything that would intrude on this sepulchral mood.”[7]

Behind the meticulously crafted façade a deep vagueness and sorrow remains that cannot be wholly explained away by the made-for-television storyline of an awkward and lagging young man who inexplicably murders his mother, destroys his computer hard drive, gains access to a supposedly high security facility and proficiently executes 26 individuals within minutes. Yet only in an age of almost universal deceit is the public asked to accept such without further inquiry and comment. All the while amidst mass grieving political leaders and public figures showboat their legislative priorities. It is difficult to imagine a more profound marker of an utterly decrepit politics and civil society than the shallow and unquestioning media that churns out a monochromatic worldview while giving adherents the insidious impression of being informed.

www.globalresearch.ca/the-newtown-school...n-one-gunman/5316313
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 00:31 #847

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And no sket that weren't fer you. We will always be mortal enemies ;)

Wouldn't have it any other way mate :coffee:
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 02:44 #848

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I need to look at this more closely on a computer as my phone limits me a bit but I wanted to share a thought or two.

If this other guy lives in CT and Lanza was from new jersey then they would have different colour plates obviously. Now if the car in the photo on the tow truck is the car it looks like a CT plate. Who has said this car was the Lanza vehicle? Could it just be a car that a gun was found in at the scene?

I just wonder if it might not even be the shooter's car. Maybe the media saw police take it and assumed. Like I said these thoughts are perhaps premature as I have not really looked at much regarding the car.

After Columbine they released video and photos and all kinds of details and I think this helps build the shooters into anti heroes if you will. I think a lot of local police departments perhaps learned from this and decided not to share so much and as such this increases the conspiracy theories. In our world we say show us the tapes but many official bodies might have genuine non conspiracy reasons to with old tapes etc. I know this view is perhaps unpopular here but I think it is important to consider.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 12:29 #849

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i-baster wrote:
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I dunno andy, click the link I posted and have a read. It's certainly odd to say the least

Odd isn't the word.
Still this is also probably 'normal' according to some :roll:

It seems to me that you are one of the people who considers themselves an authority on normal behaviour.

Ah so you DO think its normal to travel a few hundred miles to nick a drug dealers car? :)
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i-baster wrote:
. Who has said this car was the Lanza vehicle? Could it just be a car that a gun was found in at the scene?

I just wonder if it might not even be the shooter's car. Maybe the media saw police take it and assumed.

Yep they did exactly that and thats NORMAL...ROFLMFAO!!!
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 12:55 #851

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Ah so you DO think its normal to travel a few hundred miles to nick a drug dealers car? :)

Tbf andy, that's not how I read the stuff in that link. I read it that the car was likely in CT all along but that's assumption ofc.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 13:07 #852

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Ah so you DO think its normal to travel a few hundred miles to nick a drug dealers car? :)

Tbf andy, that's not how I read the stuff in that link. I read it that the car was likely in CT all along but that's assumption ofc.

Even if it was there all along it only makes them look even more stupid. The damn thing was probably abandoned there, to assume Lanza used it is just ridiculous. In this day and age cops usually look for prints and evidence, evidently the american cops deserve their reputation and fat stupid donut dunking pricks. The coroner can't even manage to string a sentence together without looking like he has some kind of mental disorder himself and the press run round in circles repeating everything that comes from one mysterious chinese whisper source.

Evidently getting to the bottom of a crime and doing some detective work is a complete waste of time in that country, they should outsource it to cops from bangalore, they'd do a better job without even visiting the scene, maybe sum it all up over the phone.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 13:15 #853

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For balance I really ought to cite an example of British plod being inept :fap: ers at this point. Trouble is I can't decide which example of the myriad is the one to go for :D
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 14:51 #854

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andyh wrote:
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I dunno andy, click the link I posted and have a read. It's certainly odd to say the least

Odd isn't the word.
Still this is also probably 'normal' according to some :roll:

It seems to me that you are one of the people who considers themselves an authority on normal behaviour.

Ah so you DO think its normal to travel a few hundred miles to nick a drug dealers car? :)

Assumptions.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 16:28 #855

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i-baster wrote:
andyh wrote:
i-baster wrote:
andyh wrote:
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I dunno andy, click the link I posted and have a read. It's certainly odd to say the least

Odd isn't the word.
Still this is also probably 'normal' according to some :roll:

It seems to me that you are one of the people who considers themselves an authority on normal behaviour.

Ah so you DO think its normal to travel a few hundred miles to nick a drug dealers car? :)

Assumptions.

Well its one or the other.
Either its normal or its abnormal.

Normal would be to drive his own car or perhaps someone in his family, abnormal would be to go out and go to the effort of nicking a car before he went to kill a pile of people and then top himself...maybe he was worried about grand theft auto? ROFL!!
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 17:17 #856

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I mentioned Waco earlier in the thread. This is a case where there's 100% irrefutable evidence that the military murdered American citizens and the government lied about it.



Yet despite this, it wasn't reported on at all by the mainstream media. You can read a news report here from seven years later where it's still not being conceded:

articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/27/news/mn-45274

You can also read in that article that sociopathic attorneys were still quite happy to stand up and attempt to muddy the waters with some complete nonsense, and that the LA Times was quite happy to imply that the government's version was plausible, but that the tanks "contributed to the fire". I think it's fair to say that they contributed to the fire, in that there was no fire until they shot it through the windows! This footage was well known about because it was broadcast on public access television at the time.

If you watch this video:



And go to 5:27 you can see ITN News completely uncritically reporting the government's version of events.

So I don't know what occurred in this case, but it's very hard for me to understand why people think it's impossible that there was a cover-up.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 17:23 #857

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Oh no, you got it all wrong wub, the fire was started by the branch davidians or whatever they're called because the media says so and there's nothing abnormal about that at all.

/cheesy shill grin
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 26 Dec 2012 17:36 #858

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I read the car in the car park belonged to a convicted felon who might have been at the school visiting his daughter, I'd imagine checks were run pretty quickly on the cars in the school car park and i'd imagine that his stood out, it's very bad to be caught with weapons if awaiting trial or sentencing in the US which might explain some of the suspicion around it all.
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It certainly seems to belong to a convicted felon. Cheers for another angle on the same discrepancy in what the media have presented.
So it looks increasingly possible that either the car we are told Lanza used had nothing to do with the events or if it did that the media have fekked it up in another way by not looking into how Lanza came to have the car.

Got to love the MSM
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One of the most radical examples of journalism i've heard of is Jean Beudrillard's report from a Hotel in America about the 1st gulf War.
Baudrillard argued the Gulf War was not really a war, but rather an atrocity which masqueraded as a war.[1] – using overwhelming airpower, the US armed forces for the most part did not directly engage in combat with the Iraqi army, and suffered few casualties. Almost nothing was made known about Iraqi deaths. Thus, the fighting "did not really take place" from the point of view of the West. Moreover, all that spectators got to know about the war was in the form of propaganda imagery. The closely watched media presentations made it impossible to distinguish between the experience of what truly happened in the conflict, and its stylized, selective misrepresentation through "simulacra"
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