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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 16 Apr 2013 15:37 #101

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Do bombs ever go off next to bankers,industrialists,politicians or arms makers? :roll:

Good point.

Not that i agree with any kind of bombings,even against the above,bombs are far to random in there destructive capabilities.
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www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/16/explosion-...thon-spokesman-says/
No suspects have been named, but new details are slowly emerging in the attack, which killed three and injured at least 176. Two bombs went off just before 3 p.m., shattering a festive atmosphere several hours after the legendary race began on the city's 238th annual Patriots' Day. ...
"This will be a worldwide investigation," Special Agent-in-Charge of the FBI's Boston Field Office Richard DesLauriers said at a Tuesday morning news conference, adding that investigators will go "wherever the leads take us."

"We will go to the ends of the Earth to identify the suspects responsible for this despicable crime," he added.

It remained unclear if the bombs were the work of a homegrown or foreign threat, but in Washington, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel called the attack "a cruel act of terror."..
Apparently a couple of Islamist groups have denied responsibility and nobody seems to be claiming credit for it which i'd expect to happen, I must admit with the level of Alex Jones influence as it is I do think there's a real possibility of Homegrown Terrorists doing such things, it reminded me of the Anders Breivik bombing in size and destruction they're both quite similar.
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Apparently a couple of Islamist groups have denied responsibility and nobody seems to be claiming credit for it which i'd expect to happen, I must admit with the level of Alex Jones influence as it is I do think there's a real possibility of Homegrown Terrorists doing such things, it reminded me of the Anders Breivik bombing in size and destruction they're both quite similar.
It could quite easily be the case. It doesn't make any difference whether it is or not because no other possibility will be investigated.
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Have to say DM that in this millennium pretty much every terrorist bomber that has been intercepted, has been stung. As in the security services have steered them toward bombing and provided material aid to that cause.

The notion of 'governments' bombing citizens is not a million miles from that reality.

Is there any kind of analysis that demonstrates this? Just looking randomly at the wiki list for 2007 I see what appears to be in excess of 100 incidents. I haven't checked how many were intercepted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2007

I think it is also illegitimate to make decontextualised sweeping statements. For example, if the security services are tacitly assisting a favoured group wherever as part of a covert operation without explicit military involvement, this is a different scenario to some urban bombing in their own country. The US quite unequivocally assisted the contras in a prolonged campaign of terror - that has no bearing on something like Boston.

Governments may bomb people, they could bomb people in their own cities. The problem is many people just assume from the outset they have. It simply does not matter if Iranians, Koreans, Al Qaeda, right wing gun nuts, a deranged Lance Armstrong with a vendetta against athletes are ultimately held responsible. It was a bomb going off, therefore it was conspiracy. It bugs me that people who berate the public for believing everything the govt says have an annoying habit of robotically believing the govt had to somehow be involved - in this case even before anyone has been accused. I don't see the positions from being at all different.
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I haven't the bandwidth to trawl for links DM, sorry. However, I stand by my statement based on previous reading of details about the arrests of potential terrorists. The security services actively engage with those they think may be swayed into comitting acts of terror. On the surface, out of concern for all our safety but who knows what the motive really is.

Security services identify people, then reel them in. Often giving training in the process. It's very well documented for those that don't have internet restrictions to discover if they choose to do so.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:
2/If you believe there isn't a cascade of theories, I suggest you spend five minutes on the DIF
Why don't you post on the DIF about this 'cascade' of theories instead of quoting my post on here then?

I'd rather ask you what relevance the prison industrial complex, war on drugs etc has.
It doesn't make any difference whether it is or not because no other possibility will be investigated.

What possibilities won't be investigated?
I'm certainly pretty sure the FBI won't be investigating the possibilty they did it.
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dogsmilk wrote:
knobmeup wrote:
Have to say DM that in this millennium pretty much every terrorist bomber that has been intercepted, has been stung. As in the security services have steered them toward bombing and provided material aid to that cause.

The notion of 'governments' bombing citizens is not a million miles from that reality.

Is there any kind of analysis that demonstrates this? Just looking randomly at the wiki list for 2007 I see what appears to be in excess of 100 incidents. I haven't checked how many were intercepted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2007

I think it is also illegitimate to make decontextualised sweeping statements. For example, if the security services are tacitly assisting a favoured group wherever as part of a covert operation without explicit military involvement, this is a different scenario to some urban bombing in their own country. The US quite unequivocally assisted the contras in a prolonged campaign of terror - that has no bearing on something like Boston.

Governments may bomb people, they could bomb people in their own cities. The problem is many people just assume from the outset they have. It simply does not matter if Iranians, Koreans, Al Qaeda, right wing gun nuts, a deranged Lance Armstrong with a vendetta against athletes are ultimately held responsible. It was a bomb going off, therefore it was conspiracy. It bugs me that people who berate the public for believing everything the govt says have an annoying habit of robotically believing the govt had to somehow be involved - in this case even before anyone has been accused. I don't see the positions from being at all different.
It actually highlights the kind of anti state, anti government rhetoric that gives rise to "homegrown terrorists", it's people who think society is stupid/worthless, and people who think the government is against them, that can rationalise/justify such attacks.
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I haven't the bandwidth to trial for links DM, sorry. However, I stand by my statement based on previous reading of details about the arrests of potential terrorists. The security services actively engage with those they think may be swayed into comitting acts of terror. On the surface, out of concern for all our safety but who knows what the motive really is.

Security services identify people, then reel them in. Often giving training in the process. It's very well documented for those that don't have internet restrictions to discover if they choose to do so.

I'm not sure exactly what dynamic you're referring to - you seem to be referring more to the monitoring of people. Which does occur and may fail. The 911 guys were known to the security services. Then people wondered how they were identified so quickly.

Whatever the case, the security services locating and engaging with terrorists does not mean all terrorists have been located and engaged with. That is blatantly not the case.
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humanspirit wrote:
Do bombs ever go off next to bankers,industrialists,politicians or arms makers? :roll:

WTC? Brighton bomings?
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dogsmilk wrote:
I'd rather ask you what relevance the prison industrial complex, war on drugs etc has.
Well, as I've answered that there's no need for any further discussion. If you're going to make reference to the DIF, please at least make it clear - ie. by actually making reference to it! - if you're going to quote my posts, as I don't look at it, and we're not on it now! I'm not a clairvoyant!
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Mike wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:
knobmeup wrote:
Have to say DM that in this millennium pretty much every terrorist bomber that has been intercepted, has been stung. As in the security services have steered them toward bombing and provided material aid to that cause.

The notion of 'governments' bombing citizens is not a million miles from that reality.

Is there any kind of analysis that demonstrates this? Just looking randomly at the wiki list for 2007 I see what appears to be in excess of 100 incidents. I haven't checked how many were intercepted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2007

I think it is also illegitimate to make decontextualised sweeping statements. For example, if the security services are tacitly assisting a favoured group wherever as part of a covert operation without explicit military involvement, this is a different scenario to some urban bombing in their own country. The US quite unequivocally assisted the contras in a prolonged campaign of terror - that has no bearing on something like Boston.

Governments may bomb people, they could bomb people in their own cities. The problem is many people just assume from the outset they have. It simply does not matter if Iranians, Koreans, Al Qaeda, right wing gun nuts, a deranged Lance Armstrong with a vendetta against athletes are ultimately held responsible. It was a bomb going off, therefore it was conspiracy. It bugs me that people who berate the public for believing everything the govt says have an annoying habit of robotically believing the govt had to somehow be involved - in this case even before anyone has been accused. I don't see the positions from being at all different.
It actually highlights the kind of anti state, anti government rhetoric that gives rise to "homegrown terrorists", it's people who think society is stupid/worthless, and people who think the government is against them, that can rationalise/justify such attacks.

Hardly...unless they're stupid as pig shit.
If they believed govt is against them then they'd be blowing up govt/politicians instead of sporting events.
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mikey mikey wrote:
humanspirit wrote:
Do bombs ever go off next to bankers,industrialists,politicians or arms makers? :roll:

WTC? Brighton bomings?

Prolly covers the middle two but not bankers and arms dealers.
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dogsmilk wrote:
knobmeup wrote:
I haven't the bandwidth to trial for links DM, sorry. However, I stand by my statement based on previous reading of details about the arrests of potential terrorists. The security services actively engage with those they think may be swayed into comitting acts of terror. On the surface, out of concern for all our safety but who knows what the motive really is.

Security services identify people, then reel them in. Often giving training in the process. It's very well documented for those that don't have internet restrictions to discover if they choose to do so.

I'm not sure exactly what dynamic you're referring to - you seem to be referring more to the monitoring of people. Which does occur and may fail. The 911 guys were known to the security services. Then people wondered how they were identified so quickly.

Whatever the case, the security services locating and engaging with terrorists does not mean all terrorists have been located and engaged with. That is blatantly not the case.

Can you show me where I said all terrorists have been engaged with please?
What I said is that pretty much all potential terrorists that've been intercepted seem to have been stung. As in set up to do enough to get them nicked. It's not fringe stuff, it's out there in the mainstream.
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humanspirit wrote:
Do bombs ever go off next to bankers,industrialists,politicians or arms makers? :roll:

In Athens they do.
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andyh wrote:
Mike wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:
knobmeup wrote:
Have to say DM that in this millennium pretty much every terrorist bomber that has been intercepted, has been stung. As in the security services have steered them toward bombing and provided material aid to that cause.

The notion of 'governments' bombing citizens is not a million miles from that reality.

Is there any kind of analysis that demonstrates this? Just looking randomly at the wiki list for 2007 I see what appears to be in excess of 100 incidents. I haven't checked how many were intercepted.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2007

I think it is also illegitimate to make decontextualised sweeping statements. For example, if the security services are tacitly assisting a favoured group wherever as part of a covert operation without explicit military involvement, this is a different scenario to some urban bombing in their own country. The US quite unequivocally assisted the contras in a prolonged campaign of terror - that has no bearing on something like Boston.

Governments may bomb people, they could bomb people in their own cities. The problem is many people just assume from the outset they have. It simply does not matter if Iranians, Koreans, Al Qaeda, right wing gun nuts, a deranged Lance Armstrong with a vendetta against athletes are ultimately held responsible. It was a bomb going off, therefore it was conspiracy. It bugs me that people who berate the public for believing everything the govt says have an annoying habit of robotically believing the govt had to somehow be involved - in this case even before anyone has been accused. I don't see the positions from being at all different.
It actually highlights the kind of anti state, anti government rhetoric that gives rise to "homegrown terrorists", it's people who think society is stupid/worthless, and people who think the government is against them, that can rationalise/justify such attacks.

Hardly...unless they're stupid as pig shit.
If they believed govt is against them then they'd be blowing up govt/politicians instead of sporting events.
Well you say that but the bombing of sports events by Christian Conservative terrorists has occurred in the US before:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:
I'd rather ask you what relevance the prison industrial complex, war on drugs etc has.
Well, as I've answered that !

Well what I got was the prison industrial complex, war on drugs etc has some kind of direct bearing on whoever is investigating the bombing. But it still remains to be explained in what way.
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www.alt-market.com/articles/1447-boston-...o-they-plan-to-blame:
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel, former White House Chief Of Staff to Barack Obama

While many people might immediately dismiss the concept, any student of true and unadulterated history has to eventually admit this fact: Governments exploit crisis. Sometimes, they merely take advantage of the ensuing chaos and aftermath of a disaster they had nothing to do with directly. Other times, they create those disasters themselves in order to engineer social and political opportunity.

In regard to the recent bombing of the Boston Marathon, which killed three people and injured at least 140, I have asked “Who do they plan to blame?” The unaware and naïve will state that “They will blame the true culprit behind the attack, of course!” Unfortunately, in the past couple decades I have seen numerous terrorist attacks where the blame was NOT placed on the true culprit, or, the blame was extended to totally uninvolved groups and organizations in order to politicize the event. Governments (especially our government) squeeze each man-made disaster like a ripe papaya until every drop of sweet advantage can be collected. They use our fear and confusion as license to attack a predetermined list of targets that may or may not have had anything to do with the original event. They tell the story in a way that suits their end-line interests, and the last thing they are concerned with is helping the public to “understand”. In the end, what average citizens see as an authoritative analysis on the facts from their “loving” leaders is in reality nothing more than an exercise in fantasy.

As I have said many times before, during any crisis, always look at who benefited the most from the event. Look at who had something to gain, rather than the first scapegoats they throw in front of you. Some terror attacks are real, and some are proven as staged, but never forget that government power structures do not see these tragedies as tragedies; rather, they see them as gifts; precious openings that create vulnerabilities in the psyche of the citizenry. They WILL exploit these vulnerabilities to further their own agenda, and they WILL exploit the Boston Marathon Bombing to demoralize and marginalize their political enemies. Count on it.
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Well what I got was the prison industrial complex, war on drugs etc has some kind of direct bearing on whoever is investigating the bombing. But it still remains to be explained in what way.
If you didn't understand it, that's fine. The original post is here:

You have a situation where the American authorities have killed millions of people, conservatively, have engaged in some of the worst atrocities in the history of the world, and countless war crimes. They've helped systematically run the American economy into the ground, engaged in unbelievable cronyism, and done nothing to prevent trillions of dollars being stolen from the public, in fact they've aided it. They've created a private prison system whereby the number of incarcerated Americans is now many times more than any other country on the planet, and private companies are paid per prisoner. Much of this huge fertile prison population that is exploited by corporations is due to the 'War on Drugs' which has helped build a massive police state architecture in the United States. At the same time the authorities have been caught running drugs into the United States multiple times. The police state has then been greatly enhanced by the 'War on Terror' as a result of which the federal government has claimed numerous completely unconstitutional powers. This just scratches the surface of some of the crimes of the US establishment.

Thus, it's absolutely staggering to me that any American person still wants to defend their establishment, still believes in it, and still unquestioningly trusts it. The only logical response is to be suspicious of the only people that stand to benefit from this, particularly when they inevitably finger a group that is inimical to their interests. Especially when, in addition to the list of unbelievable corruption and tyranny listed above, they've also engaged in covert intelligence actions all over the world, throwing out governments right, left and centre, supporting militia and terrorist groups on numerous occasions, and are documented to have carried out such atrocities on many occasions.

Yet all they've got to do is wheel the flag out, and the vast majority of people will suck up whatever Obama has to say. In fact, I saw many people speculating last night that it was either al-Qaeda or some pro-gun, anti-government nuts. Whichever one of those two groups the authorities choose to blame it on will just be accepted uncritically. Whatever response the government makes will be accepted uncritically. Whatever security provisions are put in place in Britain will be accepted uncritically. Whenever the economic armageddon reaches a critical point, whatever explanation Obama puts forward will be accepted uncritically. People will be annoyed about losing money, but there's not even the slightest chance that most people will have the critical faculties to understand what's occurred. In fact, the collapse of the dollar could be blamed on al-Qaeda, and most of the population would probably accept it.

Have another read by all means. It would be appreciated if after you read it this time you don't make reference to something off the DIF that I haven't read, or if you do, please at least mention the fact that you are doing so. Thank you.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
www.alt-market.com/articles/1447-boston-...o-they-plan-to-blame:
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel, former White House Chief Of Staff to Barack Obama

While many people might immediately dismiss the concept, any student of true and unadulterated history has to eventually admit this fact: enemies exploit crisis. Sometimes, they merely take advantage of the ensuing chaos and aftermath of a disaster they had nothing to do with directly. Other times, they create those disasters themselves in order to engineer social and political opportunity.

In regard to the recent bombing of the Boston Marathon, which killed three people and injured at least 140, I have asked “Who do they plan to blame?” The unaware and naïve will state that “They will blame the true culprit behind the attack, of course!” Unfortunately, in the past couple decades I have seen numerous terrorist attacks where the blame was NOT placed on the true culprit, or, the blame was extended to totally uninvolved groups and organizations in order to politicize the event. enemies (especially our enemy) squeeze each man-made disaster like a ripe papaya until every drop of sweet advantage can be collected. They use our fear and confusion as license to attack a predetermined list of targets that may or may not have had anything to do with the original event. They tell the story in a way that suits their end-line interests, and the last thing they are concerned with is helping the public to “understand”. In the end, what average citizens see as an authoritative analysis on the facts from their “loving” leaders is in reality nothing more than an exercise in fantasy.

As I have said many times before, during any crisis, always look at who benefited the most from the event. Look at who had something to gain, rather than the first scapegoats they throw in front of you. Some terror attacks are real, and some are proven as staged, but never forget that enemy power structures do not see these tragedies as tragedies; rather, they see them as gifts; precious openings that create vulnerabilities in the psyche of the citizenry. They WILL exploit these vulnerabilities to further their own agenda, and they WILL exploit the Boston Marathon Bombing to demoralize and marginalize their political enemies. Count on it.
it's sensationalist anti government guff like this that I think helps radicalise American Patriots, Christian conservatives etc..
It's really bad it's hard to convey in the baked stupor i'm in i've bolded bit's that I could imagine being shouted from the pulpit of a town hall during 1930's Germany by an angry moustached radical named Adolf.

It's got all the bad things you don't want to see, generalizations about idiot masses, vague scapegoating against the general concept of government, sarcastic elitist dismissal of common sense and consensus based on general rationality.
The last sentence I bolded reads to me like a confession, it's basically what the news outlet or writer is doing, "exploiting the vulnerability in the psyche of the confused masses", in a sense the writer indirectly advances the core lies that lead to American domestic terrorism, the Masses are "duped robots under the spell of the bad guys", the bad guys are government in most cases portrayed as a methodical homogenous and hostile enemy, confirming the fears of the most paranoid in society of overbearing oppressive forces. :spliff:
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Mike wrote:
it's sensationalist anti government guff like this that I think helps radicalise American Patriots, Christian conservatives etc..
I view it as totally reasonable, if not completely self-evident, but we all have a different perspective.
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