Yeh always wondered what the midnight shit was about

dantesrevival wrote:
He'd try & get you to believe that he works from 2am till midnight and can't afford to do anything else because of immigrants...
or something equally ridiculous.
& the most hilarious thing about Bendoon..... he's an immigrant.
That site doesn't half attract some half wits.... or in Benloon's case a sixteenth -wit.

Space Bandit wrote:

Actually they have new (AFAIK) NaN balzing a racist trail called macdon

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253388&page=20

Despite the fracar on the thread and the breaking of guidelines, I_am didn't close that thread. It's been there for montha and is over 400 posts long.

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253388&page=21

There has been a large overlap between the stormfront crowd and DIF for at least 2 years, if not longer. They've done a very good job of infiltrating the forum actually. 1. They've done so gradually, rather than all at once. 2. They don't spam the forum, usually. 3. They do their best to put on a reasonably polite face, free of blatant racial slurs, and promoting an ideology (based upon unsupportable premises of course). A masterful job of infiltration, really (no pun intended).
mikey mikey wrote:

91181 wrote:
An important function of TPV will be to promote david's books, dvd's and live performances.It's ingenious really, he has an entire network as a platform to promote his work. It's all free advertising, and it's all funded by "the people."

Likewise, gareth's "work" is being heavily promoted: he performed every hour during the telethon. The degree of nepotism is very blatant. TPV is supposed to be promoting a variety of artists, but there is no doubt that gareth will be featured above all others.

If david wants to promote his own work on the show, he should pay for advertising also, out of his pocket, out of principle.

Both david and gareth are displaying signs of megalomania, and it ain't pretty. TPV and DIF are showing signs of becoming a cult, where anyone who refuses to conform or worship is either punished or banned from their online community.

Can one discuss race without being called a "racist"?

shake wrote:
If you can avoid unsubstantiated generalisations based on race you can, otherwise you'll just look a bit......well, you know......

I am just relieved I am not hated as much as Sean. Cheers folks

Mickey wrote:

shake wrote:
Why would you be hated?

Do you want to be hated?

It's not any more self evident that Icke is a disinfo agent than it is that the queen is a shape-shifting reptilian. I neither accept nor reject these claims without evidence.

I do believe that he is exploiting TPV to promote his own and his son's work. He is almost certainly not paying for advertising while he promotes his books, dvd's and live performances on TPV, and I doubt gareth is, either.

There is also abundant evidence that sean and at least some of his moderators shamelessly censor ANYONE who is critical of david or gareth, yet give free reign to other posters who are far more abusive, and allow them to violate forum guidelines with impunity, because they are in support of david.

David's ambition and ego are motivated by a self-righteous, grandiose sense that he is a "chosen one" and therefore that the ends justifies the means.

David believes in what he is doing, but he believes so strongly that he has compromised his principles along the way.

I don't know what the fate of TPV is. All I know is that it is largely, and increasingly an extension of his ego and vanity, as much as it is a platform for "the people."
grackus wrote:

Good points, Mickey.

From my experience the following is absolutely true.

"There is also abundant evidence that sean and at least some of his moderators shamelessly censor ANYONE who is critical of david or gareth, yet give free reign to other posters who are far more abusive, and allow them to violate forum guidelines with impunity, because they are in support of david."

There are a number of vids on Youtube exposing Icke and where he gets his material from. Luckily Icke always set my teeth on edge even when he was presenting Grandstand, so I had no attachment to his material before I sought out some more detailed information on him.

Proving Icke is waste of space will be easy once all the rest of the idiots get on board. Only then will his material start to suggest global religions, global leaders, global currencies. I am wondering whether we will start seeing more of Maitreya soon. Or maybe it will be a Bluebeam alien invasion.

Bottom line: if you go around talking to spirits you are in the same box as Crowley and Blavatsky. No-one can know what these things are, and what they really want, and of course they will present themselves as being helpful sorts, just trying to give the poor old human race a break. If you believe what these spirits are saying without question, without even knowing if they are really telling you the truth, I think you have lost your critical thinking skills. I remember getting a temp ban for even suggesting that Icke might possibly be controlled opposition. DIF is a prison of the mind.

David Icke is not controlled opposition. He really believes in what he is doing and saying.

He is far closer to a cult leader/megalomaniac-sociopath. He displays multiple symptoms of this disorder:

1. delusions of grandeur (he believes he is a 'chosen one,' 'son of god,' a 'jesus,' a channel of the gods/spirits). "I am infinite consciousness!"

2. the ends justifies the means: he can bilk poor people out of every last red cent they have, even if they can't afford it, since he is doing 'god's' (infinite love's) will. This is absolutely identical to the pseudo-logic of tv preachers who promise a 'paradise' in the afterlife if they will only donate their money to the church. They promise 'healing.' Just give us your dough.

Likewise, david promises a paradise where the world is free of illuminati devils. HELLO! THEY CONTROL THE FRIGGIN' MOON AND THEY CONTROL BLOODY SATURN AS WELL AS PLANET EARTH! ARE THEY SUDDENLY GOING TO JUST UP AND LEAVE AFTER ALL OF THESE MILLENIA OF CONTROL?!? Yes, they will because the "truth vibrations" are coming, and the sun spots of knowledge will vanquish the holographic projections being beamed from the moon and saturn.

He wants free speech for all. But he has to censor YOUR free speech on HIS own website first!!! It's lunar-cy!!!

He wants to set up a TV station for "the people." You have no say in how it's set up of course, he just wants to call it "the people's voice" because it sounds cool. And let's not forget, you are "free" to donate your money, time and equipment, all without pay, so that David can set up his own channel, where he can promote his books, dvd's, lectures for FREE! What a privilege! A true victory for "the people!"

And be sure to get priority seating for all of his concerts! There, you will be dazzled by his wit, where for a few pounds, he will tell you how STUPID and COWARDLY the people who post on his forum are: "forum man!"

Welcome to David's world, where hyperbole, double speak, hypocrisy and yes, an endless plea for donations are all just minor inconveniences on the path to TRUE FREEDOM! INFINITE LOVE IS THE ONLY TRUTH!

3. And let's not forget David's principle calling card, and the mark of a true sociopath: personal charm mixed with duplicity. David does a great job of luring in the unsuspecting with his folksy witticisms, and sense of humor. A wonderful ploy to sell you on various half truths, half baked lies, undocumented "realities," and various other "smoke and mirror" pieces of evidence that appear and disappear like phantoms, shadows and echoes. Try going through his citations? It is utterly pointless. His books are about as well documented as a mafioso's bookkeeping.

David, Gareth, Sean, you bloody wankers, have a good time believing your own bullshit!

I agree with you, Grackus. If you accept that communication with some kind of discarnate entity is possible, you're flattering yourself if you think it's because you're special, or that you understand what they and their intentions are.

I watched a presentation by another nutcase called David Boyle once. When I say nutcase, some of the stuff he talks about is very clever & fascinating, but he also does a fair bit of contradicting himself, and seems implausible. And he's another with a giant ego.

He said that the stuff Icke claimed to have experienced when he first publicised his mystical contacts, was pure repetition of what he, Boyle, had experienced and described to Icke shortly before.

Who knows which of them's telling the truth, if either - and if either's genuine at all, what motive any such entity might actually have.

Mickey wrote:
You are taking him at face value that he actually believes all that jazz, he seems reasonably smart so I doubt he does believe any of it, but there's nothing to rule out that he is not both a sociopath and some sort of controlled opposition.

shake wrote:

shake does not seem so keen to debate "race"

He does want to talk about "defending ones culture" and "the freedom to establish communities"

Who knew he was such a librul hippie?

Reptired wrote: Indeed. Controlled by fiat and no small sense of:

And there's no evidence that he's controlled opposition either. If you have evidence that he is, then share it. I can easily document his megalomania and hypocrisy. But I cannot document that he is controlled by government agents.

I just encountered a website that claims that EVERY well known conspiracy researcher (whatever "well known" means) is controlled opposition. Yet, this website is the very first hit that shows up in an internet search. This prioritization surely means that his own website is controlled opposition! And what is a "star" in conspiracy research anyway? I didn't even know about jeff rense until last year and I have been reading alternative research for a lot longer than that.

We are all free to rip on david's research if and when it is poorly documented, or simply not documented at all. But then to throw out accusations without any evidence is equally appalling.
Reptired wrote: