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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 18:15 #141

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That's a sensible and level headed response roni, and wake up bomb btw, and exactly the point I was trying to put across when I posted on the other thread. Being honest I havn't got a problem with some of you guys here, you were always caught between the crossfire not wanting to take sides, I know that. I can see also that things did get a tad out of hand with all the infighting. It's a real shame really because most of us share the same basic interests I feel. I may be wrong but that's just my sixpence here. Speaking from my own perspective of the oneupmanship etc, I took issue with some of the underhand tactics and blatant misrepresentations of the guys you mentioned and their little group. Which is the main reason why I took sides with the pro-revisionists. true a handful were nazi's, but that's their business not mine, right. Some of these guys need to learn not to deal in absolutes, for instance just because some of us choose not to believe the 6 million figure does not = nazi. I see that simply as guilt by association, which is wrong, and supposedly these guys are against generalizations, they could have fooled me. They're only against it when it';s other people making them, that's the truth. I was accused of being KKK because of my PC thread, which is complete madness and some of us quite righttfully took issue with the non stop insults and slander, can anybody blame us? I havn't come here to start a fight with anybody I'm really not interested (not refering to you or wake up bomb) I know you already know that. I'm refering to others who jump down peoples throats using ad-hom and misrepresentation ad naseum, as a debating tactic. I've no time for them sorts anymore whatsoever, no matter what bloody forum they're on. Anyway there you go, that's my views in brief.

No one has anything against revisionism (I took sides on the gas chambers issue against Dogsmilk last year too); and no one is calling anyone a Neo-Nazi for being a revisionist or for saying it was not 6 million Jews (they were probably not 6 million Jews, that's just the highest figure given by historians; which ranges between 3 or 4 million and 6 million).

I call a Neo-Nazi someone who defends or expresses their support for Nazism or Hitler; or who always takes sides with those who do. That's what happens to be a Neo-Nazi; I'm not the one who came up with that definition.
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 18:24 #142

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dogsmilk wrote:
Your're resistance, right?

If so, don't give me that. You complained about me implying you were a Nazoi and within literally five minutes, you were bigging up Hitler on another thread - then quickly editing it out (but not before I'd seen it). This in the context of a thread you started with a slab of antisemitic drivel you gushed about being wonderful, then complained about people saying you were antisemitic, then flatly refused to engage in defining exactly what you thought was so wonderful - obviously because the wrong people were on the thread and would challenge you.Not to mention cooing over flymermay being censored because he was saying things you didn't want to hear - so you thanked ex sheep for his crimethink being memory holed.

I find you to be a very dishonest individual.

If you're not resistance, please disregard what I just said and accept muy sincere apologies.
If you are, nice choice of username - I wonder why you picked a user name based on that rabid antisemite you like...?

If he is resistance, he's totally one of them... not because of the "Political Correctness" thread (that thread only shows he is a right-wing extremist) but, as you well said, because of the comments he made on other threads regarding issues related with Nazism and above all anti-Semitism. He is obviously not a Gonzo, a Jimmy or a Bjornyvan, but just another little Neo-Nazi wannabe like Zephirod with an added far right-wing twist; who hangs around those types of threads to join in against anyone who challenges their hateful and vicious lies.
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 18:24 #143

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Dogsmilk, I'm not at all interested in getting involved with another one of your fallicies arguments. But I will say my peice nevertheless. I never bigged up hitler at all, you took the comment completely out of context, the thread in question was comparing Cameron to hitler, of which I posted a comment and then decided better of it, just incase some PC lemming took it out of all context to misrepresent what I was saying. Another important fact you fail to mention is that it was said tongue in cheek, but then i wouldn't expect somebody like you to see the funny side anyway, and that's one of the reasons I deleted the post. Others can make of that what they will, but I certainly wouldn't take your word for it dogsmilk if I was them.

My username is none of your damn business either btw. Do I question why you call yourself dogsmilk? No, because I simply couldn't give a damn what username you choose, that's your business not mine. You and I will always be on the otherside of the fence, and I also think you are partly responsible for the milk turning sour between some members here, and over at the DI forums. You even proudly admitted a number of times to ''winding people up'' to flame a debate. I can see straight through your hollow rhetoric. Me thinks you protest too much about some things too. Like for instance political correctness, which is what spawned this particular thread in the first place. Can you name one prominent person in the ''truth community'' that isn't outspoken against PC? I find it rather starnge that people would go out of their way to defend PC, especially somebody who calls himself an ''anarchist'', you could have fooled me. Any anarchist I ever met hated PC with vengeance. What are you then, some kind of PC version of an anrchist? Anyway I'm done here, I've said my piece and I'm not sticking around here to waste my time treading water with the likes of you.

I forget exactly what you said, but it was something about how Hitler did great things for Germany or something. You obviously thought you'd gone to far because you swiftly deleted it. I guess you'll fall back to your default claim you only think Volkswagons are great. And it wasn't tongue in cheek. You can backtrack all you like, but IIRC I gave you a second example. Unfortunately I'm suspended again and can't use the search function - not fort breaching any rules but for contradicting groupthink. If only I stuck to posting antisemitic diatribes - Sean would have had no problem with that would he?

Your 'political correctness' thing is hollow words. For you it's a means of attempting to head off criticism of the kind of bigotry you promote. For example this by your namesake -
www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/06/po...and-sexual-deviancy/
people can make up their own minds about it. And the publication it appeared in - the 'respectable' outlet for the American racist far right.
This is what you were promoting on the DIF and felt motivated to start a thread about saying how great it was - then of course flatly refusing to define exactly what your chosen parameters of 'sexual deviance' are. Because let's face it - we all know that includes e.g. gay people. You just haven't got the balls to defend your views. Like with someone like Hadaka Jimmy, at least that guy stands up for what he believes in. He may be fucked up, but he's honest about who is and what he stands for. I don't respect him but I can respect that. Same with rodin - he doesn't beat around the bush. He's honest about his opinions. You, however, are devious. You carp on about free speech, yet you cheer when people whose views you don't like are censored. You claim to be against political correctness, yet call for a political correctness about not being able to call a bigot a bigot.

And you clearly don't know much about anarchism. But my experience is you don't know much about anything.
Most anarchists are militantly anti-facist/racist/etc - you did know that, right? Ok you do get that weird national anarchism, but hardly anyone has even heard of those guys.

Oh and I've previously explained to people why I call myself dogsmilk. I have nothing to hide.
This is where yours comes from
www.darkmoon.me/2012/how-the-jews-took-over-america/
Why you seem to idolise this daft cow I really cannot fathom.

Oh and sure I've said I've taken the piss with people and said why - and? If I take the piss, I admit it. If I'm flaming or trolling (as oposed to just being accused of it when IU don't think I am), I'll admit it. I'm not the only person to lapse into flaming or trolling - probably at least half of posters do at one time or another. I'm not going to deny my behaviour when it occurs. You should try it sometime (being honest) - you might find it liberating.
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 18:34 #144

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People who view the DIF for the first time, maybe are gonna think that it is a Pro-Nazi type forum, but maybe I'm wrong there, I dont know. It's easy to make a group of people who belong to a "group" look like they are bad guys - Just get a bunch of infultraters with an agenda to join the "group" and make their voices heard louder than the rest of the group.

David Icke is NOT Pro-Nazi at all IMO. And I reckon that the vast majority of the Icke forum members (most of whom dont bother posting very often now for various reasons) are NOT pro-Nazi either. I reckon that the DIF has been infultrated with members who have an agenda, and are posting stuff that goes against the stuff Icke puts out there. A good way to discredit a group of people.

I know for a fact this is already happening; and they are absolutely right, the DIF is practically Stormfront with conspiracy theories and esoteric stuff.

One example: Someone just signed on the other day, and their first post in general about the forum was something like: I agree with all you say about the Zionism and the Jews, but I just can't believe the stuff about the reptilians.

Another example is one offered from another new forum member who told his friend he was joining the DIF, to which his friend answered something like: what the hell do you have in common with those Nazis?

This is what the people who run the forum want (thought they don't want it be openly known); DI always had many Neo-Nazi followers, and I guess this is a market he doesn't want to loose. That's why Neo-Nazis get all that support from the mods, and why the anti-Nazi mods where kicked out.
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 18:42 #145

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What I said was I think you guys are just as much to blame for forum disruption at the DIF, as the Nazi's were. I never said once that I tried to rationally discuss things with gonzo, hadaka, tinyint, etc, nor did I think they needed love and respect. Understand, I felt you guys were about as irrational as they were. That's pretty much it. mushy figured he's attempt to twist what I was saying, and make it stick -- he couldn't do it. He was ridiculous. If he's actually gone, good riddance. One down, ya know? I see you, boots, and flyermay are here.... I felt about as warm and fuzzy as I would have if gonzo, eternal spirit, and hadaka signed up with lightgiver bringing up the rear. Lots of fantastic circular arguments that go nowhere could commence. Whoop de fucking doo.

We'll see how it goes. I hope you guys aren't here to be disruptive. It's a pretty good forum, don't fuck it up. And all that.

dubmeup.... wtf is up with ratting out the DIF?? There are good people on there too...... it's about Sean, then keep it about Sean. Congrats bud, really good job. One hand clapping for you bro.... :roll:

Can we do one thing?... Can you show us any discussion where me or Dogsmilk began by trying to impose our views by force?... I mean, can you show us any discussion in which we first abandon reason to engage in denial, personal attacks, or trolling?

I know It's easy to get that impression when you find a thread that's been going on for a while, you just read the last posts, and you figure that we're just trying to be disruptive. But that's how all discussions end with them: a simple childish exchange of insults... they simply won't shut up when they run out of arguments, and I'm not going to allow them to bully me because they have the numbers.

Actually, on the sexual deviance thread, resistance kept launching personal attacks against me, then started accusing me of launching personal attacks against him. The think is, these guys have a totalitarian mindset - if you support this totalitarian bullshit you obviously tend to percieve yourself as the potential Fuhrer. That's what all this 'political correctness' stuff is really about - it's about wanting a new form of political correctness where it's political incorrect to call a racist a racist or an antisemite an antisemite. It's a sort of mirror political correctness from an evil dimension they want instead.
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 18:46 #146

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Round and round we go... :roll:

It's just like the good old days on the DIF.

I mostly stayed out of it though, barring the odd post here and there.
The only other post I made in this thread I complained about someone being silenced in a free speech thread, which I found ironic.

It bores me senseless all this nazi/anarchist/communist/jewish shite. Pin your badges to your shirts and jump on the merry go round. Rather you than me :)
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 18:50 #147

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Round and round we go... :roll:

It's just like the good old days on the DIF.

I mostly stayed out of it though, barring the odd post here and there.
The only other post I made in this thread I complained about someone being silenced in a free speech thread, which I found ironic.

It bores me senseless all this nazi/anarchist/communist/jewish shite. Pin your badges to your shirts and jump on the merry go round. Rather you than me :)

I didn't see communists come into it yet although guevarista's not got started yet :p
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 18:54 #148

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andyh wrote:
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Round and round we go... :roll:

It's just like the good old days on the DIF.

I mostly stayed out of it though, barring the odd post here and there.
The only other post I made in this thread I complained about someone being silenced in a free speech thread, which I found ironic.

It bores me senseless all this nazi/anarchist/communist/jewish shite. Pin your badges to your shirts and jump on the merry go round. Rather you than me :)

I didn't see communists come into it yet although guevarista's not got started yet :p

I sort of consider myself an anarchist communist if that's any help...?

Obviously not a fan of the Bolsheviks, but maybe this will get us in the mood



You have to admit it's catchy.

Did that do the trick comrade?
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 19:02 #149

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dogsmilk wrote:
Actually, on the sexual deviance thread, resistance kept launching personal attacks against me, then started accusing me of launching personal attacks against him. The think is, these guys have a totalitarian mindset - if you support this totalitarian bullshit you obviously tend to percieve yourself as the potential Fuhrer. That's what all this 'political correctness' stuff is really about - it's about wanting a new form of political correctness where it's political incorrect to call a racist a racist or an antisemite an antisemite. It's a sort of mirror political correctness from an evil dimension they want instead.

They all do it; they all follow the exact same pattern. You either agree with them, or you deserve to be attacked; they all lie all the time, and most had been caught doing so many times; and they are all a bunch of hypocrites, they keep on asking for things that they are not willing to comply with.

But the worst part is their deceitfulness. They are always trying to see how far they can go in their claims: if people are fine with them, they go ahead; and if they see too many people opposes them, then they go back on their claims a few steps... that's where all this stuff about "now I'm a Neo-Nazi and an anti-Semite... now I'm not" comes from. They stand for it, and they certainly share the same believes and behavior, but openly admitting it would turn too many people off... and I'm staring to think the DIF is on the same page (after how they are supporting and backing them up).
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dogsmilk wrote:

I sort of consider myself an anarchist communist if that's any help...?

lol :)
I'm more of an anarcho-syndicalist/post scarcity anarchist :p
I love the complexity and all that :D

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Scarcity_Anarchism
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dogsmilk wrote:
I sort of consider myself an anarchist communist if that's any help...?

Obviously not a fan of the Bolsheviks, but maybe this will get us in the mood



You have to admit it's catchy.

Did that do the trick comrade?

:D

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Frog wrote:
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Now define sweeping generalisation.... :roll:

Frog, what is your point?

That is your interpretation which is a matter for you to deal with - cap 'n fit springs to mind. If you feel you fit under the generalisation of some one with extreme views that's you choice. I'm sure you would have a better idea than me about your own views and intent.

Which seems to raise the question of what's your point? Frankly I couldn't care less how you rationalise your shit.

Nice edit.

OK, 6 million Jews didn't die in WWII, now what?

In your own time....

Nothing to do with editing I quoted the element that was at issue and relevant. Now what?

You wouldn't be avoiding the obvious conclusion to this line of questioning now would you?
:roll:

What would the obvious conclusion be that you have come to? In plain concise English as opposed to insinuation.

Give a straight answer and there's no need for insinuation; 6 million Jews didn't die in WWII, now what?
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Flyermay wrote:
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I sort of consider myself an anarchist communist if that's any help...?

Obviously not a fan of the Bolsheviks, but maybe this will get us in the mood



You have to admit it's catchy.

Did that do the trick comrade?

:D


As I've said over there before I vdon't get why people don't do the Soviets. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. Why no people supporting uncle Joe?
I still maintain as a comparable homicidal dictator, Stalin was way cooler than Hitler. If I was going to back any homicidal totalitarian dictator, it would be uncle Joe. If only because of the moustache and pipe.
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andyh wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:

I sort of consider myself an anarchist communist if that's any help...?

lol :)
I'm more of an anarcho-syndicalist/post scarcity anarchist :p
I love the complexity and all that :D

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Scarcity_Anarchism

I don't percieve much difference between the two.
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As I've said over there before I vdon't get why people don't do the Soviets. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. Why no people supporting uncle Joe?
I still maintain as a comparable homicidal dictator, Stalin was way cooler than Hitler. If I was going to back any homicidal totalitarian dictator, it would be uncle Joe. If only because of the moustache and pipe.

Yes, and the hoax is far greater... 4 to 6 million; that's nothing. The hoax on Stalin was 8 to a staggering 60 million. :O

Holohoax!!!!! :D
Holocaust3

When will these realise?
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As I've said over there before I vdon't get why people don't do the Soviets. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. Why no people supporting uncle Joe?
I still maintain as a comparable homicidal dictator, Stalin was way cooler than Hitler. If I was going to back any homicidal totalitarian dictator, it would be uncle Joe. If only because of the moustache and pipe.

I've yet to see conclusive proof Stalin killed 20 million...and I hear he liked animals.

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David Icke is NOT Pro-Nazi at all IMO. And I reckon that the vast majority of the Icke forum members (most of whom dont bother posting very often now for various reasons) are NOT pro-Nazi either. I reckon that the DIF has been infultrated with members who have an agenda, and are posting stuff that goes against the stuff Icke puts out there. A good way to discredit a group of people.

Yeah, I think the overwhelming majority of people on there are just regular folk being into what they're into be it UFOs, 911 or lizards or whatever. But if you go to a party of 150 people and 10 of them are stood around waring swastika t-shirts and talking very loudly about how great Hitler was, they're the people you're going to notice. Scanning the forum gives a pretty unavoury view, even though it's a vocal minority who are respnsible. particularly as they tend to favour the general section which is, well, the general section that seems the most heavily used. It's known people have deliberately come over from Stormfront and I think some people do see it is a potential recruiting zone.

Hi Dogsmilk :)

I agreee with all you just said there (except the bit where you say stormfront see DIF as a potential recruiting zone). I think that DIF is not a good place to find Nazi sympathisers really.
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Someone needs to write a 'diftionary' to help new members understand what posters are on about - I shall start of

Disruptive poster = someone who picks up a point from a post that the person who said it does not want to have to qualify - usually because they cannot without appearing to be what they are being called out as

Hasbara Troll = someone who disagrees with what is being said and has the temerity to voice it - used mainly against those who have spoken out about anti semitism (the non dif version)

Anti semitic = someone who is hateful towards arabs

Free speech = anything the person who utters the words think should be allowed to be talked about no more no less

Race realist = racist

Politically correct = anything that involves showing respect for others by moderating yourself

Troll = someone who disagrees with other posters

Hitler = good guy liked animals

Jew = anyone who has ever eaten a pretzel been seen near a pretzel or had a great grandmother who liked pretzels - also includes anyone who has 'money' or 'power' definitely not a race though in many cases the only way in which to associate an individual with being jewish is through the use of racial indicators - repeat this does not make them a race therefore hateful posts are not racist - likely to be a neandarthal

Communist - Jew

Bolshevik - jew

Holocaust - jewish lie

Nuclear bombs - jewish lie

Homosexuality - doesnt really exist in that it is the fault of jewish medias attempt to break up the family - people only 'believe' they are gay due to 'brainwashing'

Queen Elizabeth - richest lizard in the known universe

Prince William - jew

Paul mccartney - dead

Women - inferior members of the species who should never have left the kitchen - rather simple therefore easily brainwashed into having to act and dress a certain way in order to make themselves more attractive to men - something went wrong with the programming though so the specifications have gone awry new sets of specifications are constantly being worked out

David Icke - He who shall not be put under the same scrutiny as those he makes claims about - all round philanthropist - working only to help get information out - often faced with court cases - needs your money
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 19:29 #159

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As I've said over there before I vdon't get why people don't do the Soviets. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. Why no people supporting uncle Joe?
I still maintain as a comparable homicidal dictator, Stalin was way cooler than Hitler. If I was going to back any homicidal totalitarian dictator, it would be uncle Joe. If only because of the moustache and pipe.

I've yet to see conclusive proof Stalin killed 20 million...and I hear he liked animals.

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They say he killed all those Poles, but that is heavily based on so-called "eyewitnesses" and we know they were shot with German ammunition - definite hoax. And it's illegal to deny he did all that stuff he supposedly did in several countries - what have they got to hide?
So a few people went hungry in Ukraine - that was just some kulaks exaggerating a famine. I mean - they claim people were eating their children, but there is absolutely no forensic evidence this ever occurred. And why haven't all the mass graves been opened because I demand it? Because they're empty, that's why. Where is the PROOF Stalin killed millions of people?

Uncle Joe dragged a backwards agrarian country into being the world's second superpower where everybody had a job. Ok he didn't have Volkswagons, but he had the T34 which pretty much everybody agrees was the best all round tank of the second world war. Yet growing up I was constantly subjected to vicious propaganda like Top Gun, Rambo and Red Dawn - this was an effort by the NWO to demonise the one power cabable of standing up to them. Think about it - have you ever seen the MSM say the collapse of the Soviet Union was anything other than a good thing????
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The David Icke Forum is pro-Nazi... and will do anything to hide it 25 Jul 2012 19:47 #160

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dogsmilk wrote:
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I sort of consider myself an anarchist communist if that's any help...?

lol :)
I'm more of an anarcho-syndicalist/post scarcity anarchist :p
I love the complexity and all that :D

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Scarcity_Anarchism

I don't percieve much difference between the two.

Between anarcho-communism and post scarcity? Massive difference tbh.
Thats my own perception though.
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