The whole not for profit thing that icke was ramming down folks throats has always been transparent.
Ofc, there are other forms of profit than the accountancy type. Hands up who has any doubt whatsoever that in this case, there really is no smoke without fire?

DI on Twatter

Gareth Icke on Twatter


Bad day at th'office?

Nice choice of word gareth. You super massive cunt.

Problem - Busted
Reaction - Temper tantrum
Solution - Whine and sneer on social media.

Class act.

Space Bandit wrote:
Funny as fuck anybody expected different

Just a good money spinning exercise full stop

hugorune wrote:

Who wants to tell Sonia the bad news? This time next week, it'll be all over the internet that she shags goats and caused Icke & co to contract rickets by the power of thought.

I totally agree with the majority of what Sonia Poulton has said, and absolutely everything she had said may be correct.

The only thing I would point out is that I would always be sceptical of the motives of a so-called journalist repeating tittle tattle that she herself admits she doesn't have any evidence for. This happens in 'journalism' all the time, but it would suggest to me something of an agenda. Of course, it could be absolutely correct, but some gossiping and backbiting goes on in every organisation.

It seems to me inevitable that it will go on at TPV when it is in fact run in an absolutely hierarchical fashion, about which she was completely correct. If she was so uncomfortable with this, why did she take a wage from them in the first place? That was the situation from day one.

I'd be highly surprised if she left the Daily Mail, for example, and then publicly slagged off the way that it was run, particularly in a speculative way, because that would be the end of her in the media. This is why the BBC misappropriates billions of pounds of public funds, but no-one ever comes out of the institution and criticises it, at least not in a sustained way (although there is quite a bit of criticism in Peter Sissons' book, who is now retired, of course).

Of course, that doesn't detract from the fact that the majority of what she's saying is valid, as I have said from the start, but painting herself as lilywhite and now suddenly extremely concerned about these issues is not very convincing IMHO.

But a scenario where DI lords it over a few minions who act as a kind of buffer between him and his potential detractors does seem strangely reminiscent. In the worst case DI & Sean are having a few nights off the complimentary Tennents n curries, in the best case some chickens are turning up at home looking to roost!

It sounds plausible enough to me that she took at face value the lip-service paid to the importance of transparency at the outset. If the upper echelons of the hierarchy conducted 'business' in a fair & open way, would there still necessarily be an objection to the concept of hierarchy? Not sure.

It's definitely plausible, yes. It's probably even likely. I just don't see why everything has to be such a big melodrama. Well, I do see, it's because she wants her hundreds of Facebook followers to blow smoke up her arse (which they have).

If you have reservations about the funding and transparency, just leave and say so. These are entirely reasonable reservations. A few days ago she was saying it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, now all of sudden she's had a profound shift of conscience. When she starts her new show I'm sure she'll make out that she's been incredibly brave and virtuous. It just doesn't sit very easily with me.

That's the beauty of this though, you don't have to be a SP fan, just a fan of accountability and that's the only thing that'll ever put this to rest. The speculation will linger until DI & Sean can show where over a quarter of a million has been spunked in a month.

oioioi wrote: I doubt it'll last long enough to find out. Let's just assume for the sake of argument that they've got the best of intentions - they've run it so badly that I don't see any conceivable way that it will survive.

4;07am - message from Wilderbeest...

You know what guys?

I am closing this thread for now. I am the only mod or admin on here and I haven't even had time to eat let alone monitor the rest of the forum.

Take a break, go to bed and get some sleep. Breathe, meditate, have a few drinks. whatever.

It can be reopened later but for now Goodnight all

PS: Please don't take it to another thread or I will close the whole subforum

Still locked now.

Gilly wrote:
I took the time to read through some of that thread this morning. There's a lot of Icke defending and Paulton bashing - as was to be expected.

The argument can be settled very easily if Icke shows where the money has been spent. A little transparency - simple really. The longer they spend attacking her character and not proving her wrong then the clearer it becomes that she was bang-on.

I really hope this is the begining of the end for the cult ( I said CULT) of Icke.

The main thing for me is not where the money has been spent. The main thing for me is...imagine if I came to any one of you, and said "I've got a great business idea, but I need £1,000 to get it off the ground, will you help me out?". And you said, "you're such a fucking great guy, here's £3,000" (it could happen...). And then six weeks later, I came back and said "well, I've slightly miscalculated. I actually needed £7,000, so give me another £4,000, or you can kiss goodbye to your £3,000".

Now multiply that by 100. You don't need to be Alan Sugar to see that someone should get fired.

Hmmmm

At 2:30pm there was supposed to be a rebuttal statement regarding SP's accusations. Just before 2:30pm the TPV experienced another 'attack' and hasn't aired their 'live' statement.

Damn those convenient shagnasties.

Psychic attacks was it? lol :p

Scaltura's skating on thin ice.

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265555