[quoteMeanwhile over on DIF abusers and infilrators thread:

+1. TPV will only survive if all those who have contributed and willed it into existence really want it to. Right now it is struggling to hold on, and service is patchy and non-existent at times. Those who have invested heavily in it may be justified on one level in taking this as a personal affront, but if they were prepared to make such a huge leap of faith in the first place they should stick with it now. It's like expecting a circus lion to perform tricks, when what it needs is a blood transfusion.

Dark arts have been deployed against the integrity of TPV team members, both by quislings inside and out of the organisation. How would any of us react to being called paedophiles,coke addicts and satanic freemasons, we would be bloody mad and of necessity divert our time and attention to nailing the lies. That combined with all the technological attacks on transmission, the real paedo satanic freemasons must be really pleased with themselves. A couple of years down the line, we are not going to have the luxury of scoring points off each other on forums unless we put aside our differences and keep the information flowing via TPV.

Dark arts eh? ][/quote]

Ick ick ick !! D'ya see what they did there?

Oh well it couldn't possibly be me then because I only spoke out a week ago,and the money was long gone then wasn't it

I only called Dick a coke head in a PRIVATE message, which HE publicized...They are still not addressing the real issues, i am not aware that I have called staff at TPV (The Pinhead Vampire) any of those things, but many others have, seems strange that the TPV staff can call anyone anything they like but will never, never answer a direct question.

This whole thing was set up to fail and demoralize people as it does so.

Dark Arts > Well they shouldn't have annoyed the Dark Artists then should they ?
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Babs wrote:

Refugee wrote:

Just a random observation which maybe the difmods need to address in the t&c/rulebook for dif

Based on this

posted by curlywww.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061962512&postcount=150

The inference is that unless you support TPV (presumably support = cash donation) then you are deemed an 'infection''?
i.e. - not allowed to be a forum member?

Yet TPV and DIF are (allegedly) two distinct separate entities?

Maye there's a reason for that Columbian registration?

Mind Hack: The Devil's Breath
www.messagetoeagle.com/devilsbreath.php?...News%29#.UuZJB_unzDc

TPV is off-air yet again!

Damn those "Dark Forces" !!

It's just that a realization or an enlightenment may occur in a compartmentalized part of consciousness/awareness.
I don't think the whole of somebody's consciousness/awareness can develop in unison,
It does not raise like sheet metal on a forklift truck, it's more like a focus can tune into one particular element of consciousness but tunes out of another focus, either by broadening or narrowing it's range.
This pulsating conscious activity is not expanding ,it merely changes points of focus and becomes full of clarity in some aspects but dilutes clarity elsewhere in it's range of focus to accommodate this.

So if someone focuses on becoming 'awake' they are diverting focus away from their consciousness about other issues within their ability to perceive.

When someone looks at the stars they can change focus on their telescope, by opening the focus to see a larger section of the sky, they have not awoken, they have merely altered focus, this altering of focus is something that is learned through life experiences and how to engage with situations.

It's a bit like the perfect police detective partnership, one person autistic the other holistic.
The autistic one will be able to remember all the items at the crime scene but won't be able to construct a picture of events.
Broken window, blood on carpet, body with knife in it, footprint outside, etc...

The holistic person would not recall all the detail but would have a wider range of focus so could create a picture, but would have to keep referring to their notes about the detail.

Both types have a role, who's to say that one focus is upper consciousness and the other not.

Tuning senses is no 'awakening' it's focusing on senses.

No consciousness expands or raises it's a con.

Information is processed and knowledge creates mind expansion.

Damnable Dark Forces !!!!!

Mother Damnable wrote:
Did you cast a spell on them?

Verlander wrote:
It was just Gilly killing it with her mind.

Or maybe it was me with my keyboard and im laying the blame on her.

All the credit goes to Icke & crew.

Can you imagine if TPV was not just a tinpot internet outfit and was let loose on the main broadcasting airwaves?

Ofcom would have to set up a new department just to deal with complaints about TPV's flaky relaibility!

Excuse my ignorance but would the majority of funders/donators not have given purely on the understanding they were funding a station which was to be broadcast on the main airwaves and not a glorified group vlog?

Absolutely, since that was what was pitched to them.

Verlander wrote:
I have spend the last couple of years (off the internet and forums) putting together a viable AM platform. It would be set up by a totally volunteer force and within 6 months would be able to generate enough revenue to not only self sustain but start taking on volunteers as paid staff.
It really would be a non-profit with all money over and above running costs being ploughed back in to expand the platform and its visibility enough to start giving the MSM a run for their money.
No media luvvys and Divas. or huge quantities of cash and the constant donate whine aimed at the subscribing public.

feather wrote: Gilly wrote:
That was also my understanding.

So when did the intention change and were those who had funded or considered funding informed so that they could determine if they still wanted to support the revised venture?

If the 'product' changed, are refunds being made available?

Do you require an OFCOM license to knock out webcasts?

Have they been allocated a broadcast frequency yet?

Have they even applied for one yet?

Shhhh now. Too many questions. Just dance.

If they are registered with OFCOM, does OFCOM, as a "regulatory" entity, protect people from fraud e.g. taking money under false pretenses, failure to provide legitimate accounting of use of funds etc? Can they be investigated by OFCOM? How does OFCOM regulate?

feather wrote:
Isn't Ofcom something you would need for UK only?
Why not have the servers somewhere else (Guatemala maybe)?
AJ has ranted alot and called Obama whatever came to his mind and still no one sued him. + AJ is on radio and a downloadable plug for itunes or winamp or media player. 4 hours + repeats. (Not bad) and pretty much all the shows are on youtube, for free of course.
Besides, TPV, it's not like it's Television, it's on the Internet FFS, It's a live stream much like youtube live stream.

I still don't get what the fuss is all about. DI & Co. are just deluded.
TPV - the only chance humanity has blah blah.... Yea right!
They keep asking for money while they haven't produced anything worthy. FIRST you gotta show what you got! People already trusted them enough to sent them over 300k, now they want another 400k
That's fucking insane,

OFCOM won't investigate them though (see earthlinggbs blog for the ofcom stuff) but for the regular donations we gave, can we get anything back from paypal??