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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 18:48 #3921

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thoreau wrote:
Having read the statement on tpv about transparency I am about to donate a pound so that I am entitled as a donor to go to their 'stakeholder' meeting and have my questions answered.

Yes and no.
6) We will voluntarily hold an annual “stakeholders” meeting, in London, within five months of our statutory period end, where we will be happy to answer questions from our sponsors, employees, volunteers and donors. We will ask a representative from our external Chartered Accountants to attend that meeting. We envisage that attendance at the meeting will be via a pre-booked ticket, sold at a small charge to cover costs, such as room hire. The precise format of the meeting will depend upon the number wanting to attend.
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 18:50 #3922

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Dear White Horse,

You are either a professional shill employing classic diversion tactics (trust me I know what they are) - or just a MASSIVE TWAT.

Your attempts at verbosity are laughable. Please fuck off.

from polpotnoodle on abusers and infiltrators thread

am i correct in thinking polpot is a verified volunteer at tpv? one hopes they get points for abuse - one is not holding ones breath...
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 18:52 #3923

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oioioi wrote:
thoreau wrote:
Having read the statement on tpv about transparency I am about to donate a pound so that I am entitled as a donor to go to their 'stakeholder' meeting and have my questions answered.

Yes and no.
6) We will voluntarily hold an annual “stakeholders” meeting, in London, within five months of our statutory period end, where we will be happy to answer questions from our sponsors, employees, volunteers and donors. We will ask a representative from our external Chartered Accountants to attend that meeting. We envisage that attendance at the meeting will be via a pre-booked ticket, sold at a small charge to cover costs, such as room hire. The precise format of the meeting will depend upon the number wanting to attend.

yeah that stood out too - never known a stakeholders meeting to be pay to attend event - wonder if that is lawful - i shall attempt to find out
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 18:52 #3924

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oioioi wrote:
If it is meant to be by the people, for the people then co-operative (though not without it's flaws) would have been the way to do TV differently! But then you have to be accountable to every member.
:D
As I said about 150 pages ago....
Icke. Issuing a share to every donator is your only way out of this with any kind of respect. Even though you should have done that in the first place :roll:
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 18:53 #3925

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thoreau wrote:
When we decided upon a legal structure through which to operate TPV we had to balance the need for transparency against cost and regulation.

After taking advice we decided to incorporate Peoples Voice Broadcasting Limited as a private limited company. Principally because we did not wish to burden TPV with the increased regulatory cost and operational restrictions that apply to Charities and Community Interest Companies (CIC).

Just re read it and this stood out - transparency does not need to cost imho - nor am I aware that there are regulations against transparency but feel free to show me I am wrong

They mention the cost and restrictions that apply to charities and cic's - anyone know what the extra costs might be v the incentives as I would have thought that all charities would therefore become plcs if it was expensive. What would the operational restrictions be had they set themselves up as a cic or charity and why no mention of limited by guarantee?

Charities if anything should have even less burden due to minimal to zero tax burdens, and the linguistic sleight of hand does not spell out that TPV should they manage to pull the donaters back into their mind-control alice in wonderlland vortex, would potentially be worth a huge sum down the line and could be sold on, yet the ones who initially funded it would not get a cent [or a pound].....i noticed they have jody buckman onboard now who is the "accounts" manager at david icke books, just in time for all this magic circle sleight of hand "transparency", whilst the psycho-dramas play out,

Let's see what the full itemised accounts produce on the 31st.......today's announcement comes in the final week of the indiegogo appeal....

So Demotivational Posters Coincidence
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 18:54 #3926

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Verlander wrote:
essexwheeler wrote:
Ickey says "No point arguing with idiots"

Icke is never prepared to argue/discuss/debate anything with ANYONE !
So who is the idiot? ;)

The last time DI argued/discussed/debated anything was when Jessie Ventura ambushed him out of the blue and the poor man was like a rabbit in the headlights!
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 18:59 #3927

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atlantean wrote:
Verlander wrote:
essexwheeler wrote:
Ickey says "No point arguing with idiots"

Icke is never prepared to argue/discuss/debate anything with ANYONE !
So who is the idiot? ;)

The last time DI argued/discussed/debated anything was when Jessie Ventura ambushed him out of the blue and the poor man was like a rabbit in the headlights!

HI Atlantean, i know i amongst others have asked, do you still have the emails from the wizard of icke, as i have not seen a answer as of yet.... :scratch:
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:01 #3928

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Looks like this being 'from beyond' enjoys the same privileges as Dr Frish

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Dear White Horse,

You are either a professional shill employing classic diversion tactics (trust me I know what they are) - or just a MASSIVE TWAT.

Your attempts at verbosity are laughable. Please fuck off.




www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061962847&postcount=156
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:03 #3929

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oioioi wrote:
thoreau wrote:
Having read the statement on tpv about transparency I am about to donate a pound so that I am entitled as a donor to go to their 'stakeholder' meeting and have my questions answered.

Yes and no.
6) We will voluntarily hold an annual “stakeholders” meeting, in London, within five months of our statutory period end, where we will be happy to answer questions from our sponsors, employees, volunteers and donors. We will ask a representative from our external Chartered Accountants to attend that meeting. We envisage that attendance at the meeting will be via a pre-booked ticket, sold at a small charge to cover costs, such as room hire. The precise format of the meeting will depend upon the number wanting to attend.

Held at the world famous Wembley stadium. Tickets only 62.50, plus booking fee.
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:08 #3930

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Goldenprince13 wrote:
atlantean wrote:
Verlander wrote:
essexwheeler wrote:
Ickey says "No point arguing with idiots"

Icke is never prepared to argue/discuss/debate anything with ANYONE !
So who is the idiot? ;)

The last time DI argued/discussed/debated anything was when Jessie Ventura ambushed him out of the blue and the poor man was like a rabbit in the headlights!

HI Atlantean, i know i amongst others have asked, do you still have the emails from the wizard of icke, as i have not seen a answer as of yet.... :scratch:

Yes I still have them, I'm off to the gym. I may post them later. :chuckle:
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:12 #3931

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thoreau wrote:
Having read the statement on tpv about transparency I am about to donate a pound so that I am entitled as a donor to go to their 'stakeholder' meeting and have my questions answered.

Interesting how they are now admitting many things that others have pointed out such as that as a small company they would not need to file full accounts - which people have been saying they will do since the issue of finance came up - admitting to having accountants when gareth asked if we thought the expense of accountants was justified in order to answer questions of a financial nature - All of this stuff should have been up before their website even went live - which is yet more evidence of the incompetence of those charged with managing the bloomin operation.

Also huge :thumbup: to white horse over on the abusers and infiltrators thread - your posts have been to the point, self explanatory and spot on - that you have had to repeat yourself over and over speaks volumes about the mentality of those who take ickes word as sacrosanct and in no need of any form of questioning.

Donations are £5.00 minimum or I would have joined you. :thumbup:

Does anybody else find it odd that you have to donate in set amounts?
I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:14 #3932

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Gilly wrote:


Unread 27-01-2014, 09:19 AM #147
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I've given you an example that has not been wiped by the admin on Facebook page. There is systematic abuse being carried out through text by people on there, this has been shown in one example.

Any further examples that can have legal implications, will be saved and used in any initiation of legal proceedings, Thus it would be unwise to release any documents due to this.

You are asking site volunteers - and posters - to provide proof held by those supplying news on the main site?

We are here to ensure the smooth running of this forum board, that guidelines are fully met and that people can have a platform to share information. We are not personal evidence gathering people, at the mercy of posters who have a problem with headlines or information come out from the separate entity that is TPV.

There is also a systematic process under-way off site, where volunteers and posters here are being attacked, verging very close too legal implications.

So due to what is possibly going to be a massive shock to another sites admin & staff legally, I have no time to hunt out documents for you...go search the link on facebook please and then come back and discuss openly.

In respect :)


www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061962243&postcount=147

:roll:

Is this cunt refering to sz ?

tell him to bring it , we are merely pointing out theft , fraud and lies

the dirty little beggar
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:17 #3933

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knobmeup wrote:
thoreau wrote:
When we decided upon a legal structure through which to operate TPV we had to balance the need for transparency against cost and regulation.

After taking advice we decided to incorporate Peoples Voice Broadcasting Limited as a private limited company. Principally because we did not wish to burden TPV with the increased regulatory cost and operational restrictions that apply to Charities and Community Interest Companies (CIC).

Just re read it and this stood out - transparency does not need to cost imho - nor am I aware that there are regulations against transparency but feel free to show me I am wrong

They mention the cost and restrictions that apply to charities and cic's - anyone know what the extra costs might be v the incentives as I would have thought that all charities would therefore become plcs if it was expensive. What would the operational restrictions be had they set themselves up as a cic or charity and why no mention of limited by guarantee?
It would seem highly unlikely that the costs of running a charity are more than that of a business, all things considered. Would it not?
If it were cheaper to operate as a business. Charities would operate as a business :D

I did once flirt with the idea of making a community project a charity and looked into it with the aid of a local councillor. Luckily the charities commission office was in the same town and he knew them. They gave the go ahead with but a few conditions and I don't remember anything about it costing to do. Maybe a registration fee but I can't remember. The charity would then have kept accounts just as a business would.
As it happened, the project became a smack den then an office block rather than a community centre :(
I aint taking the blame though :D

From what I remember about being on the board of a charity was that you had to be clear of any convictions, you had to abide by your rules (which were submitted to the charity commission to be clarified to be 100% correct and legal) and you had to do exactly what you set out to do in your mission statement. Plus, any complaints made were taken incredibly seriously so you were basically at the beck and call of the charities commission. The money also has to be totally accounted for - perhaps this what they thought was a problem?? Charities are far easier to run than a business, but you just have to follow the rules.

opencharities.org/charities/1052378 - the charity I was part of and on the board of 1996-1999. We followed the rules. Perhaps TPV don't want to?

(Or someone has criminal convictions and wasn't allowed to become a trustee???)
Last Edit: 27 Jan 2014 19:27 by essexwheeler. Reason: bit divvy as forgot a bit...
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:18 #3934

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scaltura wrote:

Is this cunt refering to sz ?

tell him to bring it , we are merely pointing out theft , fraud and lies

the dirty little beggar

:dunno:

We've heard nowt as yet. I suspect it isn't us though but wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:20 #3935

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Well, that transparency stuff is certainly a development. As has been said, they seem to be addressing concerns that people (myself included) have been voicing. To be perfectly honest, I don't believe them, so it doesn't change much from my perspective but it shouldn't take everything that has happened for them to have a little business sense.

They'll be scared what we've been saying is actually impacting on them, and I hope it is. You can't expect to treat people the way they have without consequence.

They're the sort of inept numpties who should not be running a People's Voice 'TV' station. The sooner they realise that and sign it over to someone else the better.

Great idea lads, now let the professionals handle it.
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:23 #3936

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thoreau wrote:
Dear White Horse,

You are either a professional shill employing classic diversion tactics (trust me I know what they are) - or just a MASSIVE TWAT.

Your attempts at verbosity are laughable. Please fuck off.

from polpotnoodle on abusers and infiltrators thread

am i correct in thinking polpot is a verified volunteer at tpv? one hopes they get points for abuse - one is not holding ones breath...

Yes I had it confirmed by a mod in a PM to me on DIF that polpotnoodle works at TPV. Wish I had taken a screenshot now, but I got made 'inactive' shortly after that PM, so got no access to it now. Polptnoodle him/herself stated in a post that they worked at TPV and had previously directed a TV series called Sin Cities. His post was wierd I thought and couldn't make out if he was making stuff up or was for real. I asked for confirmation of wether he worked at TPV - had this confirmed by PM and then got made 'inactive'.

Ever since then I have been trying to find out the name of the director of Sin Cities, because this person really bugged me. But no luck so far. The name - Polpotnoodle - I thought was completely innapropriate for someone to be using on a forum who claimed to be working at & speaking about things going on within TPV. And that post I thought was in really bad taste. But maybe I'm being too sensitive. But if I was gonna post on DIF or anywhere and openly declare I worked for (what is supposed to be an ethical publicly funded company run by loving and ethical human beings) the last thing I would think of for part of my screen name would be the name of the person who did this:
250px Choeungek2


Edit: Dont know if volunteer or employed - only know works there.
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:26 #3937

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Mother Damnable wrote:
I"cke is a fraudster said...
The indiegogo campaign site has been reported along with ickes lack of transparency over finances and where the money is going and at the moment they are looking into it, however if you want to add your voice (send them links and screenshots, good one for some people from france who were offered an invite and donated yet heard nothing from them) email

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Monday, 27 January, 2014 Delete"

i absolutely think OFCOM should be alerted as should indegogo

the above was posted to my blog today

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How about Watchdog?
Icke v Anne Robinson
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:33 #3938

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Just to add...if they are producing accounts per quarter does that not mean that the accounting from its inception last year will be missed as they then do not have to produce accounts until next january, so most of last year when it was set-up gathering donations will not be produced....despite the company being set-up in may last year and were collecting donations from the outset....it starting showing as we all know its internet [non-promised tv station] in november after some of the "staff" all gained a nice tan....so clearly the written on the back of a beermat "financial statement" is all anyone will get from june last year...which leaves a huge whole in the transparency pr drive, as that alone showed plenty was amiss.

Also i would just like to add, that TPV have since changed their company postcode/registered office and have chosen a new accountant it seems, the fact it is next to Wat Tyler way im sure is not by design...though the peasants revolt is how i know team icke would see all that has happened !!..... :villagers:
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:39 #3939

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Babs wrote:
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Having read the statement on tpv about transparency I am about to donate a pound so that I am entitled as a donor to go to their 'stakeholder' meeting and have my questions answered.

Interesting how they are now admitting many things that others have pointed out such as that as a small company they would not need to file full accounts - which people have been saying they will do since the issue of finance came up - admitting to having accountants when gareth asked if we thought the expense of accountants was justified in order to answer questions of a financial nature - All of this stuff should have been up before their website even went live - which is yet more evidence of the incompetence of those charged with managing the bloomin operation.

Also huge :thumbup: to white horse over on the abusers and infiltrators thread - your posts have been to the point, self explanatory and spot on - that you have had to repeat yourself over and over speaks volumes about the mentality of those who take ickes word as sacrosanct and in no need of any form of questioning.

Donations are £5.00 minimum or I would have joined you. :thumbup:

Does anybody else find it odd that you have to donate in set amounts?

There are donations for £1 & £2 on indiegogo in-between those one to two hourly bigger sums that are put on there, which is easy when others are giving to unaccountable accounts like paypal/barclays/bitcoin and of course to david icke book ltd.....anyone could throw money on to give the illusion of support............ :coffee:
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The People's Voice 27 Jan 2014 19:39 #3940

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Sadly I had a big clean up of my gmails a while back but managed to save this begging letter campaign fundraiser half way through the first campaign, interesting to read now. This one slipped through the clear up net because this is one where I had asked for my donation back so it was saved in the sent folder, of course it got no reply:

Received 16th June 2013


As I write this we are at £139,000 with 15 days to go. What is most amazing about this figure is that it has been reached with overwhelmingly small donations from people giving what little they can.

As always, it is people who have little making the biggest contribution.

I have met many for whom the entire total that we need to launch at the level that we plan and need would be a round of drinks and they have said to me 'I hear what you say, but what can we do?'

Well, here is what they can do - with myself and Sean taking all the risks and doing all of the work along with a dedicated team waiting to start and make this dream a reality.

I say to those for whom money is abundant and who talk about wanting to make a difference - all you have to do is contribute what you would never even begin to miss and you will answer the question 'what can I do?'

Why should The People not have a voice with the same level of technology and communication potential as the mainstream media which denies The People a voice?

We have a fantastic team of media professionals being assembled who are willing to take this station to air for a fraction of the cost of the mainstream media, but with the same standard and quality and with truth as their goal, not corporate profit or the Establishment song sheet.

All we need is the funds to do that and we estimate this to be £300,000.

I am working for nothing and will continue to work for nothing but we need your support to make this happen on the scale that I envisage and the scale that will make the difference in global public awareness. To compete with the voice of suppression the voice of freedom must have a technological match.

The people with little who have given what they can have got us this far. Now where are those for whom a sizable donation is nothing?

I say to those people - put up or shut up.

This is not a game. Your future and your children's and grandchildren's future is at stake here.

Comparatively little has been donated so far from the United States and yet the US will be be a major focus and location of our output if we can reach our goal

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Important Update About The People's Voice Campaign

David Icke explains why The People's Voice needs to continue raising more funds and what the money will be used for

Click here to watch ...

Remember this is not a London-based station only covering events in the UK, but a GLOBAL station broadcasting to and from every continent and a vehicle that can bring the world together no matter what the colour, creed, culture or religion.

If the world is going to be free of tyranny The People everywhere must come together in peace and with a unity of purpose. If we do, the house of cards must fall and the few will rule the many no more.
New Goals for the non-profit People's Voice so that we can really make a difference:

£200,000 by Thursday 20th June

If we reach this goal we will invest in leasing two 'outside broadcast' units, one for London and the other for the U.S., that will enable us to dispatch a reporter and cameraman at a breaking news story and transmit the video back to the studio live in HD quality (using similar units that are often dispatched by the likes of Sky News and other mainstream media outlets).

Think about the recent Boston bombings or the Woolwich incident in London - with this equipment we would have been able to send our team out to these locations to find out what really happened. Interviews with eyewitnesses on the scene wouldn't have gone through the usual media censor before reaching the public.

Please donate and share this far and wide

AT LEAST £300,000 by June 30th

Then it won't be just be a voice, it will be a ROAR.

Come on - we can do this and the chance will almost certainly never come around again. It is time to grasp it while there is still time to grasp it.

We'll do the work, we'll take the risks, but we need your support to make this happen on a scale that will make the difference.

HOW BADLY DO THE PEOPLE WANT A VOICE?

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P.S. Some people have inquired about investing in The People's Voice with regard to a possible financial return. But there will be no financial return because The People's Voice is not about making money, but making a difference.

Every penny that comes in, including after we go to air, will be 'invested' back into the station and its output to make it bigger, better and ever more effective.

'Investment' in terms of The People's Voice is an investment in freedom, peace, fairness, justice and the right to hear what we need to hear. For all our sakes.

Private Donations
Private donors to The People's Voice Appeal can send cheques made payable to Peoples Voice Broadcasting to the following address:

The Peoples Voice
Suite 4, 185a High Street
Ryde
Isle of Wight
PO33 2PN
United Kingdom

GOTTA LOVE THEM PRIVATE DONATIONS EH????

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