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The People's Voice 28 Jan 2014 14:11 #4121

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Deanna did apologise at the time for using the word, saying it is a word commonly used in Australia, and that she'd probably use it again. However, it is not a word accepted by most in Europe and shouldn't be. Deanna knew this because she apologised.

It's kind of strange to apologise for something, and then say you will do it again, but hey ho! :think:

It is so common especially for younger people she won't be able to help herself. Seriously. I know it 's hard for us to understand but that's how it is.
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if Ellissa Hawke and Deanna bigbuma are here on holiday visas should they be working anyway?

/yep seems more and more that The Pontificating Vampire was set up to fail.......

In my time there and speaking with Elissa she wasn't officially able to work on her visa but was hoping for more cash in hand type work with TPV. DI knew she couldn't be paid through the books so I suppose she became another volunteer for free. As for Deanna I don't know her visa situation, she came over in the June so I imagine has gone home now??? I would suggest very strongly part of the £75k in wages from the published (ridiculous) financial statement was for Deanna Amato.

I don't understand why these 2 were taken on when they were only here for a year at most. I have done a little bit of a search and it seems Deanna is some kind of designer/makeup artist/events co-ordinator and Elissa has a blog and she is a singer/comedian/free thinker:

elissahawke.blogspot.co.uk/

www.triplejunearthed.com/elissahawke

Is there nobody in the whole of the UK who could have performed the important jobs these two have at TPV?

Something is really bothering me and I haven't figured it out yet, but something is seriously wrong here.

Deanna is a Seamstress living in Melbourne and helped organise DI's tour to Australia a few years ago

It could be Deanna Amato is a common name in Melbourne I don't know as that's where the make up artist and designer showed up. One on Facebook and one on a google.
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Focus wrote:
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Deanna did apologise at the time for using the word, saying it is a word commonly used in Australia, and that she'd probably use it again. However, it is not a word accepted by most in Europe and shouldn't be. Deanna knew this because she apologised.

It's kind of strange to apologise for something, and then say you will do it again, but hey ho! :think:

Yeah, she said in the group something like 'Please don't take offence to that word, we use it all the time in Australia. I will probably say it again, !'
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Babs wrote:
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if Ellissa Hawke and Deanna bigbuma are here on holiday visas should they be working anyway?

/yep seems more and more that The Pontificating Vampire was set up to fail.......

In my time there and speaking with Elissa she wasn't officially able to work on her visa but was hoping for more cash in hand type work with TPV. DI knew she couldn't be paid through the books so I suppose she became another volunteer for free. As for Deanna I don't know her visa situation, she came over in the June so I imagine has gone home now??? I would suggest very strongly part of the £75k in wages from the published (ridiculous) financial statement was for Deanna Amato.

I don't understand why these 2 were taken on when they were only here for a year at most. I have done a little bit of a search and it seems Deanna is some kind of designer/makeup artist/events co-ordinator and Elissa has a blog and she is a singer/comedian/free thinker:

elissahawke.blogspot.co.uk/

www.triplejunearthed.com/elissahawke

Is there nobody in the whole of the UK who could have performed the important jobs these two have at TPV?

Something is really bothering me and I haven't figured it out yet, but something is seriously wrong here.

Deanna is a Seamstress living in Melbourne and helped organise DI's tour to Australia a few years ago

It could be Deanna Amato is a common name in Melbourne I don't know as that's where the make up artist and designer showed up. One on Facebook and one on a google.

Having spoken to Deanna on Viber towards the end of August 2013 (she flew back to the UK from their USA trip, then a day or so later back home to Melbourne for 2 weeks) she is definately in Melbourne, and her profession is a seamstress. She has Italian DNA and some of her family still live there
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atlantean wrote:
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The other thing is, was the trip to the USA really necessary? And most important, were the expenses for the trip covered by the contributors? Looks like someone (quite a few of the youngsters actually) just went there to have some fun and shoot a couple of promos.

with today's technology, you don't really need to take trips do you ? You can skype to discuss things, you can fax. email. text and phone... methinks it was a great excuse to travel on a holiday.

PS we have reached our server target .. just hasn't show up yet. Should be @ £ 202 pounds now :D

BTW when DI mentioned in a video there was going to be a USA/LA studio he brought across an ex child hollywood actor, now mid 30's, called Matt Smith to see the Wembley set-up. Matt brought across his lady friend (can't remember her name), and it was decided initially the LA studio would be built in Wembley (actually where they now record The Banned) and Matt would record it from there until early January 2014. A flat was rented in Islington for them which Deanna Amato subsequently lived in. Then 2 or 3 days later his father Frank Smith was brought over to help build it with Daniel (the guy on the front of the appeal for the latest £400k who was basically a good odd job man for the first few months).

I met Frank Smith at Heathrow airport and we taxied back to Wembley, so he was straight off the plane from LA and ready to get to work. Commendable. This was Thursday 19th September. Deanna rang me the middle of the following week to say Matt, his lady friend and his father Frank had gone home because one of them (the girl) had infiltrated TPV and DI had made the decision to send them home!!!

Ok, so on the financial accounts... I will assume the cost of 3 plane tickets was met by TPV . This was probably mentioned in that financial statement as an amount for £2069.25. There was also a flat rented in Islington for them, that I will again suggest from the financial statement was the sum of £2440.14. Deanna subsequently used the Islington flat. £4,500 wasted with The People's money???

www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/financial-stateme...013-to-january-2014/

Deanna was also initially staying in Camden, I don't know those circumstances. Where are Deanna's accommodation costs from June 2013 until she left? I am assuming she has left!

Wasted money and missing financial accounts by chance?

This is the weird thing about the whole TPV setup. The waste of money and lack of transparency.

Surely if you were using money from public donations, you would take the utmost care not to waste a single penny, and would want the money to stretch as far as possible. You would certainly treat the money as very precious fodder.

In the case of TPV this doesn't appear to have been the case at all. Merely going by the released Accounting information (debatable figures in any case) there has been such obvious, blatant carelessness with the money. Do people really need a show like 'the Banned', especially given the manipulative rhetoric by Mr Icke that the situation is urgent, we are doomed, blah blah blah? :roll:

There has been no consideration for the fact that people might not want to, or be able to donate more money. People's goodwill and generosity has been taken for granted, and this is what is disturbing in the whole thing.

It feels as if the whole thing was meant to fail, or at least there doesn't appear to have been any effort to ensure it succeeds.
This is what sets my alarm bells ringing.
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The People's Voice 28 Jan 2014 14:43 #4126

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As I wrote before I don't think the 'wog' problem was so much with the initial cultural faux pas (though t'was a biggie) - it was her reaction to it which left the offended lady no happier, and when it was brought to David's attention finally he ignored the issue completely and had a pop at the lady who was upset - about a lack of compassion for Deanna on her part!

That was one of the earlier stories we heard coming out of TPV, and was worrying enough in itself as a single episode, but haven't we seen the very same problem repeated over and over and over..? No questioning allowed, no answers given if you do, and an angry and childish rant (or worse) from David and/or Sean in return.

They should make a forum where they take out their aggressions on innocent, genuine posters, and feel their egos fuelled by the energy of a few gullible souls and star-struck acolytes :roll:

As for why Deanna Amato was flown halfway round the world, over to the States, and then put up here and given a job she clearly couldn't handle - if you watch a bit of David Icke Returns to Peruvian Marching Powder I'll bet you'll see a few staff from TPV. They apparently funded his trip. And I'll wager the only events she's ever organised are for Ickey.

She's a seamstress basically, now seems to be back in Melbourne, and there's a website where you can ask about her hourly rate (as a make-up artist).
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Deannar fatarse Amaretto IS in UK, it was her that "recruited" me!

Deanna is still in studio working for The Pontificating Vampire, she is in london

June til now seven months, on a six months visa !

could it be the little "wog" face is ILLEGAL ??????

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Icky by his actions or lack of, is showing everyone who he is, and it would be foolish not to believe him.
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Deannar fatarse Amaretto IS in UK, it was her that "recruited" me!

Deanna is still in studio working for The Pontificating Vampire, she is in london

June til now seven months, on a six months visa !

could it be the little "wog" face is ILLEGAL ??????

motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/

Well I don't know what visa Deanna came over on, so she may be here quite legally or not!!
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Tpv Book Sales



TPV: We’re transparent! (yes indeed you are!)

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atlantean wrote:
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marina wrote:
The other thing is, was the trip to the USA really necessary? And most important, were the expenses for the trip covered by the contributors? Looks like someone (quite a few of the youngsters actually) just went there to have some fun and shoot a couple of promos.

with today's technology, you don't really need to take trips do you ? You can skype to discuss things, you can fax. email. text and phone... methinks it was a great excuse to travel on a holiday.

PS we have reached our server target .. just hasn't show up yet. Should be @ £ 202 pounds now :D

BTW when DI mentioned in a video there was going to be a USA/LA studio he brought across an ex child hollywood actor, now mid 30's, called Matt Smith to see the Wembley set-up. Matt brought across his lady friend (can't remember her name), and it was decided initially the LA studio would be built in Wembley (actually where they now record The Banned) and Matt would record it from there until early January 2014. A flat was rented in Islington for them which Deanna Amato subsequently lived in. Then 2 or 3 days later his father Frank Smith was brought over to help build it with Daniel (the guy on the front of the appeal for the latest £400k who was basically a good odd job man for the first few months).

I met Frank Smith at Heathrow airport and we taxied back to Wembley, so he was straight off the plane from LA and ready to get to work. Commendable. This was Thursday 19th September. Deanna rang me the middle of the following week to say Matt, his lady friend and his father Frank had gone home because one of them (the girl) had infiltrated TPV and DI had made the decision to send them home!!!

Ok, so on the financial accounts... I will assume the cost of 3 plane tickets was met by TPV . This was probably mentioned in that financial statement as an amount for £2069.25. There was also a flat rented in Islington for them, that I will again suggest from the financial statement was the sum of £2440.14. Deanna subsequently used the Islington flat. £4,500 wasted with The People's money???

www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/financial-stateme...013-to-january-2014/

Deanna was also initially staying in Camden, I don't know those circumstances. Where are Deanna's accommodation costs from June 2013 until she left? I am assuming she has left!

Wasted money and missing financial accounts by chance?

Infiltrated? Any more detail from them on this. Have they said there side of the story?
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TPV
IT'S ALL OVER NOW
A love letter to the NSA agent who is monitoring my online activity. :D


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revlovejoy wrote:
atlantean wrote:
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The other thing is, was the trip to the USA really necessary? And most important, were the expenses for the trip covered by the contributors? Looks like someone (quite a few of the youngsters actually) just went there to have some fun and shoot a couple of promos.

with today's technology, you don't really need to take trips do you ? You can skype to discuss things, you can fax. email. text and phone... methinks it was a great excuse to travel on a holiday.

PS we have reached our server target .. just hasn't show up yet. Should be @ £ 202 pounds now :D

BTW when DI mentioned in a video there was going to be a USA/LA studio he brought across an ex child hollywood actor, now mid 30's, called Matt Smith to see the Wembley set-up. Matt brought across his lady friend (can't remember her name), and it was decided initially the LA studio would be built in Wembley (actually where they now record The Banned) and Matt would record it from there until early January 2014. A flat was rented in Islington for them which Deanna Amato subsequently lived in. Then 2 or 3 days later his father Frank Smith was brought over to help build it with Daniel (the guy on the front of the appeal for the latest £400k who was basically a good odd job man for the first few months).

I met Frank Smith at Heathrow airport and we taxied back to Wembley, so he was straight off the plane from LA and ready to get to work. Commendable. This was Thursday 19th September. Deanna rang me the middle of the following week to say Matt, his lady friend and his father Frank had gone home because one of them (the girl) had infiltrated TPV and DI had made the decision to send them home!!!

Ok, so on the financial accounts... I will assume the cost of 3 plane tickets was met by TPV . This was probably mentioned in that financial statement as an amount for £2069.25. There was also a flat rented in Islington for them, that I will again suggest from the financial statement was the sum of £2440.14. Deanna subsequently used the Islington flat. £4,500 wasted with The People's money???

www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/financial-stateme...013-to-january-2014/

Deanna was also initially staying in Camden, I don't know those circumstances. Where are Deanna's accommodation costs from June 2013 until she left? I am assuming she has left!

Wasted money and missing financial accounts by chance?

Infiltrated? Any more detail from them on this. Have they said there side of the story?

I don't believe so, but DI stated on video there was going to be a USA studio and then there wasn't. I'm sure somewhere on the Net Matt Smith has stated his own story about the charade at TPV
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The People's Voice 28 Jan 2014 16:04 #4135

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atlantean wrote:
because one of them (the girl) had infiltrated TPV

What does that even mean?
It's beginning to read like some cheap cold war fantasy novel.

The 'agencies' don't need to 'infiltrate' and destroy Icke, he does it perfectly well himself.
I bet they love him to bits, He's a gift to them.
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Focus wrote:
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Deanna did apologise at the time for using the word, saying it is a word commonly used in Australia, and that she'd probably use it again. However, it is not a word accepted by most in Europe and shouldn't be. Deanna knew this because she apologised.

It's kind of strange to apologise for something, and then say you will do it again, but hey ho! :think:

''Sorry but I don't care'' :chuckle:

That's appears to be Deana's message/
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The People's Voice 28 Jan 2014 16:14 #4137

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because one of them (the girl) had infiltrated TPV

What does that even mean?
It's beginning to read like some cheap cold war fantasy novel.

The 'agencies' don't need to 'infiltrate' and destroy Icke, he does it perfectly well himself.
I bet they love him to bits, He's a gift to them.

Every incompetent mistake or each time the con is exposed, it gets all 'cold war' the spies are out to get us!.

Ffs it's simply an identification of their own scams/faults, the identifiers are not 'spies' they are usually people who have been somehow dealt a distasteful, spiteful and negative sample of poorly judged NLP from the Icke con gang.

For simply signalling observations or asking 'uncomfortable' questions.
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Every incompetent mistake or each time the con is exposed, it gets all 'cold war' the spies are out to get us!.

Ffs it's simply an identification of their own scams/faults, the identifiers are not 'spies' they are usually people who have been somehow dealt a distasteful, spiteful and negative sample of poorly judged NLP from the Icke con gang.
From every aspect, Initial business plan, budgeting, personnel, accounting, presentation, crisis anticipation and contingency management, public relations, tech standards, honoring donation tied commitments, on and on and on every fuck up is someone else's fault.

TPV is a slo-mo collapse because the folks involved are delusional, shallow, media luvvies, who have more ambition and undue self-esteem than professionalism or clues on what is really required to pull something like this off.

Some kids with a half-decent webcam and a youtube channel could sit the TPV outfit's arses down and give them a masterclass.
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atlantean wrote:
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if Ellissa Hawke and Deanna bigbuma are here on holiday visas should they be working anyway?

/yep seems more and more that The Pontificating Vampire was set up to fail.......

In my time there and speaking with Elissa she wasn't officially able to work on her visa but was hoping for more cash in hand type work with TPV. DI knew she couldn't be paid through the books so I suppose she became another volunteer for free. As for Deanna I don't know her visa situation, she came over in the June so I imagine has gone home now??? I would suggest very strongly part of the £75k in wages from the published (ridiculous) financial statement was for Deanna Amato.

I don't understand why these 2 were taken on when they were only here for a year at most. I have done a little bit of a search and it seems Deanna is some kind of designer/makeup artist/events co-ordinator and Elissa has a blog and she is a singer/comedian/free thinker:

elissahawke.blogspot.co.uk/

www.triplejunearthed.com/elissahawke

Is there nobody in the whole of the UK who could have performed the important jobs these two have at TPV?

Something is really bothering me and I haven't figured it out yet, but something is seriously wrong here.

Deanna is a Seamstress living in Melbourne and helped organise DI's tour to Australia a few years ago

It could be Deanna Amato is a common name in Melbourne I don't know as that's where the make up artist and designer showed up. One on Facebook and one on a google.

Having spoken to Deanna on Viber towards the end of August 2013 (she flew back to the UK from their USA trip, then a day or so later back home to Melbourne for 2 weeks) she is definately in Melbourne, and her profession is a seamstress. She has Italian DNA and some of her family still live there

Who the hell on a 1 year tourist visa flies back to Australia for 2 weeks then comes back here. So we have her first trip Australia to England, then she goes to the USA with Sean for "work", then she is back in England for a few days, then off to Australia for 2 weeks then back to England.

Now maybe she is financially independent because that is some big biccies on airfares.

A return to the UK is about $2500.00

A return to Australia is about £850 (thats how much my ticket cost)

plus the USA trip on the side......................
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Babs wrote:
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if Ellissa Hawke and Deanna bigbuma are here on holiday visas should they be working anyway?

/yep seems more and more that The Pontificating Vampire was set up to fail.......

In my time there and speaking with Elissa she wasn't officially able to work on her visa but was hoping for more cash in hand type work with TPV. DI knew she couldn't be paid through the books so I suppose she became another volunteer for free. As for Deanna I don't know her visa situation, she came over in the June so I imagine has gone home now??? I would suggest very strongly part of the £75k in wages from the published (ridiculous) financial statement was for Deanna Amato.

I don't understand why these 2 were taken on when they were only here for a year at most. I have done a little bit of a search and it seems Deanna is some kind of designer/makeup artist/events co-ordinator and Elissa has a blog and she is a singer/comedian/free thinker:

elissahawke.blogspot.co.uk/

www.triplejunearthed.com/elissahawke

Is there nobody in the whole of the UK who could have performed the important jobs these two have at TPV?

Something is really bothering me and I haven't figured it out yet, but something is seriously wrong here.

Deanna is a Seamstress living in Melbourne and helped organise DI's tour to Australia a few years ago

It could be Deanna Amato is a common name in Melbourne I don't know as that's where the make up artist and designer showed up. One on Facebook and one on a google.

Having spoken to Deanna on Viber towards the end of August 2013 (she flew back to the UK from their USA trip, then a day or so later back home to Melbourne for 2 weeks) she is definately in Melbourne, and her profession is a seamstress. She has Italian DNA and some of her family still live there

Who the hell on a 1 year tourist visa flies back to Australia for 2 weeks then comes back here. So we have her first trip Australia to England, then she goes to the USA with Sean for "work", then she is back in England for a few days, then off to Australia for 2 weeks then back to England.

Now maybe she is financially independent because that is some big biccies on airfares.

A return to the UK is about $2500.00

A return to Australia is about £850 (thats how much my ticket cost)

plus the USA trip on the side......................

Deanna went back to Melbourne late August to see family that had come across from Italy on a pre-planned trip. She was also going off to Hawaii for 2 weeks early November for a holiday. I don't know if she actually went to Hawaii or not. Begs the question, how is a seamstress from Australia able to afford all these flights if TPV wasn't funding them?
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