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The People's Voice 28 Jan 2014 12:55 #4101

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Mother Damnable wrote:
if Ellissa Hawke and Deanna bigbuma are here on holiday visas should they be working anyway?

/yep seems more and more that The Pontificating Vampire was set up to fail.......

In my time there and speaking with Elissa she wasn't officially able to work on her visa but was hoping for more cash in hand type work with TPV. DI knew she couldn't be paid through the books so I suppose she became another volunteer for free. As for Deanna I don't know her visa situation, she came over in the June so I imagine has gone home now??? I would suggest very strongly part of the £75k in wages from the published (ridiculous) financial statement was for Deanna Amato.
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Hi All, just nipping in quickly...i just do not understand how he could claim TPV would be going off in a "few days" ...yet they still have not got anywhere near the 400,000 grand the greedy covetous mind-benders wanted, surely it should be shut already ?

Instead we have more psycho-drama and icke pumping out vitriol on his Not-connector show, yet he blatantly stated it would be finished in a "few days" on the 19th or something...yet none on his forum even question it....a few cant control the few he has left...it's a piece of cake.... :wtcslap:
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Babs wrote:
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if Ellissa Hawke and Deanna bigbuma are here on holiday visas should they be working anyway?

/yep seems more and more that The Pontificating Vampire was set up to fail.......

Loads of Pommies backpack to Australia on a one year tourist visa and they are allowed to work so it may be a reciprocal agreement with the UK.

Elissa was initially detained at Heathrow Immigration after flying in from Mexico at the end of July 2013 and was, in her words, quite fortunate to get in after a few hours interrogation/interviews etc. She was allowed in for 6 months and that was the arrangement and the reason she has now left. Not sure how she could afford a plane ticket elsewhere as she was stone broke when I knew her, but she was a nice girl and I hope some kind soul helped her out :thumbup: :thumbup:
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He'd never shut it down before the campaign's closure date though. Not while some are still content to throw good money after bad.
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Mother Damnable wrote:
hmmmI do know Shawn and Deanna bigbumma were going to "get married" for her visa

:killinme: :killinme: :killinme:

I don't believe that! :spliff: :rofl:
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atlantean wrote:
Mother Damnable wrote:
if Ellissa Hawke and Deanna bigbuma are here on holiday visas should they be working anyway?

/yep seems more and more that The Pontificating Vampire was set up to fail.......

In my time there and speaking with Elissa she wasn't officially able to work on her visa but was hoping for more cash in hand type work with TPV. DI knew she couldn't be paid through the books so I suppose she became another volunteer for free. As for Deanna I don't know her visa situation, she came over in the June so I imagine has gone home now??? I would suggest very strongly part of the £75k in wages from the published (ridiculous) financial statement was for Deanna Amato.

I don't understand why these 2 were taken on when they were only here for a year at most. I have done a little bit of a search and it seems Deanna is some kind of designer/makeup artist/events co-ordinator and Elissa has a blog and she is a singer/comedian/free thinker:

elissahawke.blogspot.co.uk/

www.triplejunearthed.com/elissahawke

Is there nobody in the whole of the UK who could have performed the important jobs these two have at TPV?

Something is really bothering me and I haven't figured it out yet, but something is seriously wrong here.
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Babs wrote:
Something is really bothering me and I haven't figured it out yet, but something is seriously wrong here.
Look at the entire Icke set-up Babs.
It's all family and their mates profiteering.
That's what's seriously wrong.
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Babs wrote:
I did a big post about that Sharon back there somewhere <<<<<<<< she is an Aussie, it is an everyday word in Australia for people of Greek, Italian and similar backgrounds they use the words on themselves. Quite shocking for us Pommies to hear all the same. It has nothing to do with black people.
There is actually a long article on Wikipedia about this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wog
By contrast, in Australian English, wog is more often a term for members of ethnic minorities from Southern Europe and Middle East. Since the late 20th century, some members of these ethnicities have attempted to reclaim "wog", such as the Greek Australian comedian Nick Giannopoulos. Nevertheless, its use by other Australians remains controversial.

As with other slang and prima facie profanity used in contemporary Australian English,[4] the ethnic term "wog" may be employed either aggressively or affectionately within differing context. In Australia, the term 'wog' is used as a slur or pejorative against people of Mediterranean ethnicity who reside in the main cities of Australia. The slur became widely diffused with an increase in immigration from Mediterranean and Southern Europe in the 20th and 21st centuries. These new arrivals were perceived by the traditional Anglo-Saxon-Celtic majority population as too incompatible and contrasting with the larger Anglo-Australian culture. Mediterraneans were often labeled as unassimilable "others," both culturally and physically different (being seen as "swarthy" or "non-white.")

"Wog" is used particularly against the Ethnics in places in Australia, mainly Sydney and Melbourne. These cover those of Southern European, Eastern European, Levantine, Turkish, and Caucasian heritage.

More recently European-Australian performing artists have taken ownership of the term "wog", defusing its original pejorative nature—the popular 1980s stage show Wogs Out of Work created by Nick Giannopoulos and Simon Palomares was an early example. The production was followed on television with Acropolis Now, starring Giannopoulos, Palomares, George Kapiniaris and Mary Coustas, and films The Wog Boy and Wog Boy 2: Kings of Mykonos and parodies such as those of Santo Cilauro, Eric Bana, Vince Colosimo, Nick Giannopoulos, Frank Lotito, Mary Coustas and SBS Television's offbeat Pizza TV series have continued this change in Australian cultural history—with some even classifying a genre of 'wogsploitation' of pop-culture products being created by and for a proudly "wog" market. Recent works of the genre have been used by Australians of non-English speaking backgrounds to assert ethnic identity, rather than succumb to ethnic stereotype. Upon the release of Wog Boy 2, Giannopoulos discussed the contemporary use of the term "wog" in the Australian context:

I think by defusing the word 'wog' we've shown our maturity and our great ability to adapt and just laugh things off, you know... When I first came [to Greece] and I started trying to explain to them why we got called 'wog' they'd get really angry about it, you know. They were, "Why? Why they say this about the Greek people?" You know? But then when they see what we've done with it—and this is the twist—that we've turned it into a term of endearment, they actually really get into that...

Thus, in contemporary Australia, the term "wog" may, in certain contexts, be viewed as a "nickname" rather than a pejorative term —akin to the nicknames ascribed within Australian English to other historically significant cultural groupings such as the English (nicknamed Poms), the Americans (nicknamed Yanks) and New Zealanders (nicknamed Kiwis).
So I think we can probably give her the benefit of the doubt. It's not a word that I would use or that should be used in Britain.
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Then we can start putting adverts on the forum & demanding cash from forum members for pet projects.
I'd like to go to Peru, I think that should be first on the list.
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Yes WUB this is what I said in my previous post though not with as much detail. :D

I was there last month after 3 years of living back here and to hear my own 2 grand-daughers call themselves WOGS (their father) was an assault on my now re-Anglicised ears.
I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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He ho my sweet forum chums ;)

I have written another blog, updating so far, and, I hope explaining my implacable position that the Dick, Shawn, fat arse devotee Deanna debacle must cease and desist forthwith !

Thanks to everyone here for their help in writing and presenting the article.

motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/

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Babs wrote:
Yes WUB this is what I said in my previous post though not with as much detail. :D

I was there last month after 3 years of living back here and to hear my own 2 grand-daughers call themselves WOGS (their father) was an assault on my now re-Anglicised ears.
There are a lot of nuances with regard to this issue. If you look at recent controversies in football, I'm not really convinced that this 'quenelle' thing is racist, and certainly not intended as such by Anelka. Also, when Luis Suarez was suspended, maybe he said something off-colour, maybe he didn't, but when the word for black in your native tongue in 'negro' and there's a massive river running through your country called the River Negro then the potential for misunderstanding is quite high. It seems very similar to the wog situation to me.
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The other thing is, was the trip to the USA really necessary? And most important, were the expenses for the trip covered by the contributors? Looks like someone (quite a few of the youngsters actually) just went there to have some fun and shoot a couple of promos.

with today's technology, you don't really need to take trips do you ? You can skype to discuss things, you can fax. email. text and phone... methinks it was a great excuse to travel on a holiday.

PS we have reached our server target .. just hasn't show up yet. Should be @ £ 202 pounds now :D

BTW when DI mentioned in a video there was going to be a USA/LA studio he brought across an ex child hollywood actor, now mid 30's, called Matt Smith to see the Wembley set-up. Matt brought across his lady friend (can't remember her name), and it was decided initially the LA studio would be built in Wembley (actually where they now record The Banned) and Matt would record it from there until early January 2014. A flat was rented in Islington for them which Deanna Amato subsequently lived in. Then 2 or 3 days later his father Frank Smith was brought over to help build it with Daniel (the guy on the front of the appeal for the latest £400k who was basically a good odd job man for the first few months).

I met Frank Smith at Heathrow airport and we taxied back to Wembley, so he was straight off the plane from LA and ready to get to work. Commendable. This was Thursday 19th September. Deanna rang me the middle of the following week to say Matt, his lady friend and his father Frank had gone home because one of them (the girl) had infiltrated TPV and DI had made the decision to send them home!!!

Ok, so on the financial accounts... I will assume the cost of 3 plane tickets was met by TPV . This was probably mentioned in that financial statement as an amount for £2069.25. There was also a flat rented in Islington for them, that I will again suggest from the financial statement was the sum of £2440.14. Deanna subsequently used the Islington flat. £4,500 wasted with The People's money???

www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/financial-stateme...013-to-january-2014/

Deanna was also initially staying in Camden, I don't know those circumstances. Where are Deanna's accommodation costs from June 2013 until she left? I am assuming she has left!

Wasted money and missing financial accounts by chance?
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The People's Voice 28 Jan 2014 13:55 #4115

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Mother Damnable wrote:
He ho my sweet forum chums ;)

I have written another blog, updating so far, and, I hope explaining my implacable position that the Dick, Shawn, fat arse devotee Deanna debacle must cease and desist forthwith !

Thanks to everyone here for their help in writing and presenting the article.

motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Babs wrote:
I did a big post about that Sharon back there somewhere <<<<<<<< she is an Aussie, it is an everyday word in Australia for people of Greek, Italian and similar backgrounds they use the words on themselves. Quite shocking for us Pommies to hear all the same. It has nothing to do with black people.
There is actually a long article on Wikipedia about this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wog
By contrast, in Australian English, wog is more often a term for members of ethnic minorities from Southern Europe and Middle East. Since the late 20th century, some members of these ethnicities have attempted to reclaim "wog", such as the Greek Australian comedian Nick Giannopoulos. Nevertheless, its use by other Australians remains controversial.

As with other slang and prima facie profanity used in contemporary Australian English,[4] the ethnic term "wog" may be employed either aggressively or affectionately within differing context. In Australia, the term 'wog' is used as a slur or pejorative against people of Mediterranean ethnicity who reside in the main cities of Australia. The slur became widely diffused with an increase in immigration from Mediterranean and Southern Europe in the 20th and 21st centuries. These new arrivals were perceived by the traditional Anglo-Saxon-Celtic majority population as too incompatible and contrasting with the larger Anglo-Australian culture. Mediterraneans were often labeled as unassimilable "others," both culturally and physically different (being seen as "swarthy" or "non-white.")

"Wog" is used particularly against the Ethnics in places in Australia, mainly Sydney and Melbourne. These cover those of Southern European, Eastern European, Levantine, Turkish, and Caucasian heritage.

More recently European-Australian performing artists have taken ownership of the term "wog", defusing its original pejorative nature—the popular 1980s stage show Wogs Out of Work created by Nick Giannopoulos and Simon Palomares was an early example. The production was followed on television with Acropolis Now, starring Giannopoulos, Palomares, George Kapiniaris and Mary Coustas, and films The Wog Boy and Wog Boy 2: Kings of Mykonos and parodies such as those of Santo Cilauro, Eric Bana, Vince Colosimo, Nick Giannopoulos, Frank Lotito, Mary Coustas and SBS Television's offbeat Pizza TV series have continued this change in Australian cultural history—with some even classifying a genre of 'wogsploitation' of pop-culture products being created by and for a proudly "wog" market. Recent works of the genre have been used by Australians of non-English speaking backgrounds to assert ethnic identity, rather than succumb to ethnic stereotype. Upon the release of Wog Boy 2, Giannopoulos discussed the contemporary use of the term "wog" in the Australian context:

I think by defusing the word 'wog' we've shown our maturity and our great ability to adapt and just laugh things off, you know... When I first came [to Greece] and I started trying to explain to them why we got called 'wog' they'd get really angry about it, you know. They were, "Why? Why they say this about the Greek people?" You know? But then when they see what we've done with it—and this is the twist—that we've turned it into a term of endearment, they actually really get into that...

Thus, in contemporary Australia, the term "wog" may, in certain contexts, be viewed as a "nickname" rather than a pejorative term —akin to the nicknames ascribed within Australian English to other historically significant cultural groupings such as the English (nicknamed Poms), the Americans (nicknamed Yanks) and New Zealanders (nicknamed Kiwis).
So I think we can probably give her the benefit of the doubt. It's not a word that I would use or that should be used in Britain.

Deanna did apologise at the time for using the word, saying it is a word commonly used in Australia, and that she'd probably use it again. However, it is not a word accepted by most in Europe and shouldn't be. Deanna knew this because she apologised.
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The People's Voice 28 Jan 2014 13:59 #4117

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atlantean wrote:
Mother Damnable wrote:
if Ellissa Hawke and Deanna bigbuma are here on holiday visas should they be working anyway?

/yep seems more and more that The Pontificating Vampire was set up to fail.......

In my time there and speaking with Elissa she wasn't officially able to work on her visa but was hoping for more cash in hand type work with TPV. DI knew she couldn't be paid through the books so I suppose she became another volunteer for free. As for Deanna I don't know her visa situation, she came over in the June so I imagine has gone home now??? I would suggest very strongly part of the £75k in wages from the published (ridiculous) financial statement was for Deanna Amato.

I don't understand why these 2 were taken on when they were only here for a year at most. I have done a little bit of a search and it seems Deanna is some kind of designer/makeup artist/events co-ordinator and Elissa has a blog and she is a singer/comedian/free thinker:

elissahawke.blogspot.co.uk/

www.triplejunearthed.com/elissahawke

Is there nobody in the whole of the UK who could have performed the important jobs these two have at TPV?

Something is really bothering me and I haven't figured it out yet, but something is seriously wrong here.

Deanna is a Seamstress living in Melbourne and helped organise DI's tour to Australia a few years ago
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Sharon has posted this link on her new blog which I am having a think about. I know I posted it on here a few days ago but God knows where I got it from :conf:

www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message196120/pg1

The first post by Ivan Fraser shows the other side to DI which of course we have all seen by now.

Anyway for those of you unable to read this massive blog besides all the usual reptile and anti Christ stuff which is way beyond my ken a few things have popped out at me regarding DIF but I have no idea why intelligence would want the IP of people on an internet forum? To keep tabs on us maybe in some kind of database? Maybe some of you guys who are really into this stuff could help me out but don't go too deep or I might drown. :chuckle:


From other posters:

[Icke claims to also know how many times the US militia have visited his website. This means that the staff who are working for him are constantly tracing IP addresses – proving that it is an intelligence setup]

[In Ickes 1995 publication …And the truth shall set you free Gateway, the publishing house who were involved in marketing his earlier books decided that the content in the said book, considered the material therein to be too sensitive, and as a result, they decided not to print the book. A “Jewish” man then decides to provide financial backing for Icke so that the book could go ahead and get published. I wonder what his motive was and who he was working for.]

[In 1995 2 young reporters by the name of Matthew Kalman and John Murray claim to have observed David Icke meeting with US military officials.]

[Icke claims that he went to watch the Irish troupe Riverdance in 1995. He had a “friend” who worked there, and she bought him tickets for the show, and for some bizarre reason David Icke was put into security seats. He then says that ex president Jimmy Carter had arrived with an entourage of bodyguards and had came and sat beside him. My belief is that Icke was liaising with Carter and he had to create a ‘cover’ story in case anyone had noticed this and brought the incident to light. He claims it was the higher power and its amazing sense of humour that had ordained this – I believe it was far more sinister].

[ Credo Mutwa was confronted by 2 men in south Africa and offered 50,000 and a house anywhere in south Africa should he not speak to David Icke ever again. If Icke was such a threat, then why isn’t he dead?]

[President Eisenhower’s name was not Dwight, but David and his nickname was “Ike” David Ike Eisenhower]


[Icke lives on a ‘pentagram’ shaped island called the Isle of Wight]

That latest crap about Ickes site under attack is a ploy to make people believe that the illuminati are out to get him. His website is a front for an intelligence agency who are tracing IP addresses. This is a form of 'reverse psychology' by protraying David as the victim of the unseen hand who wish to prevent him from exposing them.

If Icke was such a thorn in the side then they would'nt bother trying to hack into his website - they'd just kill him - it's as simple as that.

To most naive fools who buy into his hands, they should realise that it [as I just mentioned] is a stunt to add extra authenticity to the 'Icke versus the brotherhood' scam.

Icke is working alongside them - as it always has been. He fancies himself - along with his cohorts - as social engineers of the human race.

This dude D.I. is working for a larger group who will build him up and then as agreed with this schill beforehand, D>I> will have a raving nervous breakdown and make EVERYTHINK including the TRUE STUFF all look like the most babbling nut case ever to arrive on the conspiracy scene.

I've followed his material and can see it is all part of larger set-up to discount him and his followers..WATCH AND SEE IT HAPPEN! You read it here at GLP.

As this thread of our own has grown so HUGE can the mod guys on here split it into 2 parts. I was on my phone last week and it was MURDER trying to read on here and it has doubled since then I'm sure. Just a thought..............
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white horse wrote:
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He ho my sweet forum chums ;)

I have written another blog, updating so far, and, I hope explaining my implacable position that the Dick, Shawn, fat arse devotee Deanna debacle must cease and desist forthwith !

Thanks to everyone here for their help in writing and presenting the article.

motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/

He's in the process of moving it to Iceland.

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Deanna did apologise at the time for using the word, saying it is a word commonly used in Australia, and that she'd probably use it again. However, it is not a word accepted by most in Europe and shouldn't be. Deanna knew this because she apologised.

It's kind of strange to apologise for something, and then say you will do it again, but hey ho! :think:
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