The Apprentice wrote: I think it's the single most important issue we face for this reason, and two others. What you say above is completely correct, this is absolutely what is planned. Secondly, it's going to be used to completely re-order society in a way that is completely unimaginable to most people at the moment. Along these lines:









And, thirdly, there is already an almost total political consensus on this issue. I read a book called "Bilderberg People" in which an academic got to interview lots of Bilderberg attendees (all of whom would only do so on the condition that they remained anonymous), and it is stated in that book that climate change and the future direction of the economy is the one issue at Blderberg in which there is "total consensus".

The whole thing is laughable...

Water vapour is itself the most potent greenhouse gas (yes that includes those white fluffy things in the sky called clouds..lol :p )

We have improved the 'green' effiiciency of cars by fitting cats using lean burn tech etc.

Result...cars now put out way more water vapour than ever before, nice one!

Has anyone stopped to consider how many greenhouse gases (and particles) there actually are, where they come from and the strength of their affect and whether or not they are included in climate models? I guess not huh?

Have the climate models used for the paranoia correctly predicted the climate over the past decade or so? Nope

As far as I'm concerned those doubts alone are enough to make a mockery of the so called science and 'consensus'.

The models are not accurate as they do not take account of all variables, nor for that matter do we even bloody know what the effect of all the variables are!!

There is pollution going on in China right now thats killing people right now, they are mining neodymium for the bloody windfarms ffs.....
Give a politician something to run with and he'll make a complete fuck up of it and cost everyone a fucking fortune in the process.

Whats the point in even doing science if the funding for the research only comes in if its beneficial to the govt or some corporate cronies?

Has no-one stopped to ask themselves the question why little/no research is done on fluoride? Why no research is done on the pollution in China?

There is a guy called Adrian Vance who I introduced on the Icke forum a while ago, who has a great debunking experiment using a coke bottle, he has worked out that around 80% of global heat trapping is done by water vapour, and the greatest Co2 from naturally occuring rotting vedgetation.

The CAT on most vehicles today converts carbon monoxide using several hundred degrees of heat within the Platinum core into Co2, now the duties on fuel are based upon this conversion factor to justify the carbon tax, the CAT being instigated measuring device on the MOT as far back to when California Mission was brought into being. Also the unleaded debate was already decided as early as 1970, If anyone here is old enough to own any of the early Honda motorcycles, on the petrol tank was a sticker saying, Unleaded Fuel only.

They now categorise cars for their Co2 emissions against road tax, On the other hand, prepare the roads for Tolls, the black box ruling now being fitted to new cars will track your carbon footprint, it was never designed to solve accidents like the airplane.

The tech does'nt stop there of course, the black box will also be able to track your speed and send out automatic speeding fines which will be billed using the new cloud based technologies, gva the weveral newly launched satellites recently.

The research for this tech was funded via a Rothschilds sub in the early 80's at Leeds univercity, which was shown on Tomorrows World.

Then like always they are st least 50 years ahead and the Tom Tom devices we all bought was the final nail in the technical coffin for the road users of today, who will end up paying dearly eventually, there is to be no savings once they introduce tighter and tighter MOT legislation, thtough one world energy suppliers.

The race is on to cap all the energy into a quadrangle controlling and globally orientated grid, where the ready energy will be used to control the paradigm via a multinational mercinary military and nuclear to feed the ground tech and proles.


andyh wrote:

wake_up_bomb wrote: You've raised a very good point about conspiracy theories here imo, it hinges on your answer to this question:
Well that's a good thing right? (if true)

Guevarista wrote:
Its the solutions the bilderberg crowd also come to consensus upon thats the issue far more than whether AGW is happening or not.

Guevarista wrote: I shouldn't think it'll work out in our favour, but hope spring eternal!

andyh wrote: Surely they'll come up with something better than spraying sulphur or chemtrails into the atmosphere like Bjorn? I expect some of Bjorn's other listed strategies in that film to counter climate change would hold some weight in the Bilderberg group I think they'd be way more inclined to listen to Bjorn and his five Financiers than a radical progressive environmentalist or team of scientists who they probably wouldn't understand.

Guevarista wrote:
The solution will be whatever is deemed most profitable and beneficial to THEM.
If that means sulphur then thats what they'll use, if it means carbon taxation then that's what they'll use.
Whatever maintains the paradigm and their place in society, what happens to us or for that matter the environment is irrelevant.

andyh wrote: Dogma

Guevarista wrote:
Aye, the way it is.
If you care to look....

andyh wrote: Depends on who "them" is, if it's some Sulfur disposal company lobbying government for first dibs on the Geoengineering tech, you're right, if you mean a diverse bunch of officials meeting behind closed doors under "chatham house rules" policy I don't think it's possible to make a fair assumption about most of their motivations.

wake_up_bomb wrote: what do you mean in "our" favour?
Western standards would have to decline by a dramatic amount to be worse than the standards most of the 3rd world endure.

Guevarista wrote: I mean 'our' as in you and I. We won't benefit from the carbon market, the trading of water derivatives, etc. Unless you manage a hedge fund. I don't.

wake_up_bomb wrote: So what I couldn't give a fuck i don't benefit from being a white western male with dashing good looks in the heart of commerce anyway, i;ll be fishing, or getting a good spot on the river before all the newly retired workmen get outta bed

Guevarista wrote:
Its fair to make this assumption.
They wanna stay rich while you stay poor and they wanna stay leaders while you remain slaves.

Guevarista wrote:
You think they're good looking? lol :p
Kissinger looks like the back end of a leyland bus ffs

Guevarista wrote:
This last post sort of rings a few bells, in that one is best saying to hell with this current system, go with what your own flow tells you is right and with a bunch of like minded people, using a bunch of skills that already got us here and make your own system, if it works then all is well, if not tough.

andyh wrote:
Come on H, you know its not the looks, but what's upstairs and in those cold dark eyes, brrrrrrr.

The Apprentice wrote:
Nixon was even colder than Kissinger

'No, I was thinking of the nuclear bomb'
'Oh zat vould not be according to zee new vorld order'
'The nuclear bomb does that bother you?'
'mumble zee grumble'
'I just want you to think big for chrissake Henry'

LMFAO!!!

I think Gue was referring to himself as the pretty boy wasnt he?