Is it just me that defines what's going on today as corporatism then?

andyh wrote:
Is it just me that defines what's going on today as corporatism then?

feather wrote:
The difference being that your not on television attempting to get other people to have a revolution..

ffs you're half asleep feather.

Cousin_Frothy wrote: True.
I have spent chunks of my life on the streets personally and professionally encouraging people not to buy into the system though.
So because you don't know my name I get a pass on the hypocrisy gig.

Son an idiot sleeping or wakened is still a fucking idiot.
You are clueless to reality.

No. But as you know, reality is a creation of the Fabian Society and was developed by Stalimarx. Some journo friend of Thatcher said so.

He can't have his revolution and keep the money, plain and simple.

Encourage revolt against the system whist living off the funds from ones own participation in the system, perhaps the HQ for the revolution could be at Jemima's 15 million pound Oxfordshire country mansion.?

Cousin_Frothy wrote: Does it ever fucking occur to you that he is drawn to the person and their money never comes into it?

Not everyone is as cash-centric as you seem to be.

he's never 'drawn' towards an unwealthy person to have a relationship with is he?

A mildly interesting video. Notice that Brand has nothing to say about specific individuals, corporations, groups, governmental agencies, laws or policies which he opposes. There are no specifics, nothing concrete or tangible that he is referring to. Just abstractions and vague assertions.

I remember the election and Cameron didn't even get properly voted in, he became prime minister by default when he teamed up with Clegg. Clegg who immediately reneged (Renegy-Cleggy?) on his flagship pledge to end tuition fees at the first whiff of power.

When students, perhaps students who had voted for him, rioted they were condemned. People riot when dialogue fails, when they feel unrepresented and bored by the illusion, bilious with the piped in toxic belch wafted into their homes by the media.

The reason these coalitions are so easily achieved is that the distinctions between the parties are insignificant. My friend went to a posh "do" in the country where David Cameron, a man whose face resembles a little painted egg, was in attendance. Also present were members of the opposition and former prime minister Tony Blair. Whatever party they claim to represent in the day, at night they show their true colours and all go to the same party.

Here's one for blighty; Philip Green, the bloke who owns Top Shop didn't pay any income tax on a £1.2bn dividend in 2005. None. Unless he paid himself a salary that year, in addition to the £1.2bn dividend, the largest in corporate history, then the people who clean Top Shop paid more income tax than he did. That's for two reasons – firstly because he said that all of his £1.2bn earnings belong to his missus, who was registered in Monaco and secondly because he's an arsehole. The money he's nicked through legal loopholes would pay the annual salary for 20,000 NHS nurses. It's not illegal; it's systemic, British people who voted, voted for it. I'm not voting for that.

As I said to Paxman at the time "I can't conjure up a global Utopia right now in this hotel room". Obviously that's not my job and it doesn't need to be, we have brilliant thinkers and organisations and no one needs to cook up an egalitarian Shangri-La on their todd; we can all do it together.

When I first got a few quid it was like an anaesthetic that made me forget what was important but now I've woken up. I can't deny that I've done a lot of daft things while I was under the capitalist fugue, some silly telly, soppy scandals, movies better left unmade. I've also become rich. I don't hate rich people; Che Guevara was a rich person.

I think you might want to read the article I linked to and then make up your mind. As for Jesse Ventura's popularity here, I haven't noticed it. Brand has been very nice to Icke btw so I think your theory about what makes people popular amongst members of SZ might need rethinking.

Yes, I did read it. It's fine. Like I said earlier, he's about as critical as Jesse Ventura.

Mickey wrote:
If that is the case, why has Ventura not received the backlash that Brand has? In particular, the backlash from "truthers".