I have been burrowing around peeping in this thread hoping that it would finally reach resolve, but still it rolls on,
So as much as i loathe the idea of getting involved i am just going to say my piece and scarper back out, as it is becoming a procrastination nightmare,in my opinion of course...
I have to say i have seen what i can only describe as sniping and in some post, outright indignation at the "choice" of those who run this forum and are responsible for its content to seek to decline to have a csa thread, and also to those who disagreed individually
To the Csa Collective, who are frankly losing sight of the fact they were doing nothing more than trawling with a huge wide net on the JS thread, which even team icke had to stop....and all i read is how life-changing it was and the good work it did,
If it has inspired you to save childrens lives then i commend you with all my heart and these are not just words, but that does not change the fact, that the JS thread was just that...a thread, how many of those speculated to be involved have been arrested, revealed or stopped ?
There seems to be a distortion that if you choose not to want such wild accusations and defamatory/libellous comments on a forum, that that is somehow "wrong" ?
What is wrong is sniping at others who are attempting to show common sense and lay out the parameters for that, by stating if there is evidence then they would hapilly want it posting, but that is where the argument falls, as there is no evidence forthcoming, and as i have stated before on the other csa thread, without it, you end up with anyone who even said hello to someone you "believe" is involved, [or seen in their company maybe at the royal opera house with the other thousands who attend], is somehow connected, then the trawl net widens again.
This should not have even been such a polarising issue, but i just feel there has been a "holier than thou" attitude that [in my opinion] from some of those seeking to be involved in the CSA group,
And it makes me wonder just how you view the fact you were on a internet forum posting about JS, as it is being spoken of as if it brought operation Yewtree itself, or took down some huge establishment figures because someone connected the dots on the JS thread,
Did it ? Has It ??,
Children are still being abused that is well known, and just because i choose not to get into a legal minefield for those who's forum i have joined by speculative trawling, that does not mean i dont understand the csa issue....or care,
In fact i have a huge amount of experience and understanding in this area, i just choose to not to be involved in pouring over tales of abuse as it is demeaning and is [in my opinion again] causing unnecessary trauma to the individual who are reading or listening to them, it taints everything you do,
As i stated before in the other thread, if you are emotionally involved then you should step out, align yourself to what is positive and good within you and the world, then once you have your equilibrium, then go into it again being balanced, free from emotional triggering as it helps nobody, and those you seek to help deserve more than emotional pity, as emotional engagement with anything like that prevents objectiveness which is essential in investigating.
So please, help those you seek to help but dont imagine i for one do not want to see abuse stop, for man, woman and child, but it has to be evidential and concrete, otherwise it protects the abusers if you make one false allegation, as they know no evidence is available long after the fact, as those at that level ensure whoever seeks help is dismissed or labelled crazy etc....which then via libel gives a legal avenue of protection to them and nobody dare call them what they are then...
For those of you already doing something then i tip my hat to you, just dont lose perspective and imagine nobody else cares because something as small as a forum thread speculating and/or libel about it is not what they want........
Dunno what you're on about, I have you on *ignore'* 
