andy this is kinda the direction where my thoughts have been heading recently

You know, after getting the Nibiru & Satanic Paedo Lizards stuff out of my system over on DIF, I think this is the next step to getting fucking real man

I'm 1000 steps behind you though, still at the stage of entry level curiousity

I watched Lego Movie this week which for me raised more questions about our world than it gave answers.....

...No, seriously

Hahahaaa!!

To get a grip on transhumanism if you're interested go take a look at some Ray Kurzweil videos.

www.kurzweilai.net is a news site he keeps on the topic. He's nuts about it ofc while I have some severe misgivings about it, particularly about what the economic system will force upon us rather than what would happen naturally which you brought up in this thread btw, hence the relation to it.

unmasked wrote:
I get your meaning and who can say for sure?

Regardless, genetic manipulation from the pov of a certain groups idea of what is right/wrong/preferable is our first big mistake, imo.

Things are as they are for a reason and while there may be some very eloquent and heart-rendering examples in favour, there will always be an equal amount if not more, against.

Its a contentious issue, but one that should certainly be discussed. As has been pointed out, those first to make use of such technology will likely be the wealthiest. Once this is generally accepted, just where does one draw the line?

In truth, there is no line and no limits to what we will be capable of, whether it is regarded as good or bad by the majority.

What we ought to focus on first imo, is what it actually means to be alive and experiencing all that has to offer in the first place. Once we've got our heads around this, I think this particular issue, along with many others, would pale into insignificance.

Ofc...it could equally be argued that this is all a necessary part of 'our' journey to wherever it is we're headed.

The planet is overpopulated. Gay people are the genetic solution.

Sorted!

In which case, the planet has always been overpopulated.

And children born of gay couples don't count. Obviously.

The higher the population the more gays there are: self-regulation!

Verlander wrote:
Statistically...you may have a point. But it isn't self regulation. Its called ratio.

well i will just "come out" and say it! im gay, a very str8 acting scottish gay guy! gandalph the gay, lord of the ringpiece! as one of my buddies calls me! ha ha

i think that there is what seems to be an increase in homosexuality due to current freedoms and liberties we now enjoy as a society, people are now encouraged to come out and have the life that they are entitled to have. but that said, i have done extensive research into BPA's and gender bending plastics! there is a lot of study been done in that field and it holds a lot of sway in my mind that ones gender/sexuality can be influenced chemically.

I was 27 when i came out! a year and a half after my divorce from a wonderful woman who gave me 2 fantastic kids! i always knew that i had feeling beyond friendship with men but i tried my hardest to file those feelings away into room 101, convincing myself as a teen that, it was just a phase i was going through, i got married really young and for a while i managed to suppress it, I never acted on it as a married man, so now im out and my family are all great about it, even my teenage kids, i did loose a couple of m8s through it though but quickly came to realize that they were shit m8s anyway!

I am seeing a guy on/off and i dont go chucking it in my friends or families faces and i dont do the gay scene or find the need to go screaming it out to all and sunder, they get to meet my partners of course and luckely have liked the 4 or 5 serious ones ive had. so things turned out ok for me BUT....

I will never come to terms with my sexuallity myself i dont reckon! it bothers me every day, suicide has been on the cards a few times over the years, im beyond that thought nowadays though.

is it natural? well yeah course it is! it is after all a product of nature.

is it normal? nope! not by a long shot or else we would be able to create life as a man and woman can!

i did read a study recently that said that scientists had found one genetic difference between downsyndrome folk and gay folk, and they concluded that the two were manifested in nature by the same transport mechanism and that if you are gay, then you were nearly downs and if you are downs then you were nearly gay! it was interesting reading!

Regards all

oh and p.s fuck darwin! darwinism was proven to be a load of shite years ago!

Nice honest post there Ark

ArkZer0 wrote: I'm sorry you've had to experience that, it sucks.

To come back to the OP....what about people who have sex with both men and women (sometimes at the same time). Have they got half a normal brain and half an abnormal brain? What is their genetic, so-called Darwinian motivation?

I think we should be extremely careful about drawing sweeping conclusions about the way human behaviour operates in relation to genetics considering it is so poorly understood. It’s pretty much accepted that our environment has an influence on the genetic code (epigenesis), but there is not even the slightest chance that this will ever be fully understood because it is far too complex. You know, if I was to sit here and discuss my sexual preferences (which I’m not going to) which are many, multiple and diverse and somewhat unique to me although I’m sure many people share them, how could anyone even conceivably, possibly, remotely have a chance of identifying what life experiences have contributed to this? It’s inconceivable.

So it might be possible to identify a ‘gay gene’, but I bet you will also always be able to identify many people who have had sex with their own gender that don’t have it. Human behaviour is immensely complex, human sexual behaviour is endlessly unpredictable; to suggest we’re ever going to fully understand it is just delusional as far as I’m concerned.

wake_up_bomb wrote:

I believe they're known as 'a dirty'*



*use Glaswegian accent for full effect*

psketti wrote: I will bear that in mind...I can now elaborate on my usual pick up technique:



He should have asked more women on their own; I consider this experiment null and void.

wake_up_bomb wrote:

So that's the answer then is it?


How's that worked out for you then?

It works better if you find addicts and have some of what they want.

novum wrote:

novum wrote:

OK...now bear with me...

I've been thinking about this for a while actually. Whilst I'm not about to concede that sexuality has nothing to do with genetics on some level, I've also been considering things from a more esoteric pov.

I'm starting to wonder if the life choices we make, those choices based on our feelings and emotions, aren't much more to do with an 'essence' or spirit, if you will. I haven't reached the point where I can deny there may be some physical reason for what we find attractive, but I do suspect these 'choices' (though that is far from an adequate term for what we're addressing here...the only real choice for many being to either try and ignore and stifle those feelings, or act on them) are rooted in some deeper part of our ourselves.

For example, if you believe that someone can choose to be either male or female - on some level at least - it might also be reasonable to assume that one can also choose certain life lessons or circumstances conducive to spiritual growth/experience.

Obviously, there are no statistics or facts regarding this...it's just the way my brain has been wandering lately. Thought I'd chuck it into the mix.

It isn't really relevant to the thread, but it could be interesting if you considered the theme from this pov, I suppose.

AND...@ ark.

Kudos on being our very first 'coming out'.



Just be aware that I run all tings gay round these parts. Bitch.