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Poll: Should we ban Blue Tackler?

Yes Bar 12 66.7%
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TOPIC: Blue Tackler's Membership Status

Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:34 #61

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feather wrote:
He's been tugging your chains since day one and he's loving all this bollocks.

Again.

I thought this was worth re-quoting, every 15 minutes :spliff:
Forget yesterday. It has already forgotten you.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:37 #62

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jhado wrote:
feather wrote:
He's been tugging your chains since day one and he's loving all this bollocks.

Again.

I thought this was worth re-quoting, every 15 minutes :spliff:

Cast your vote or fuck off! :D

I admit, I fell for it. I won't again though.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:42 #63

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feather wrote:
FTR
I'm against a troll pit.
Sign up to and keep as close to the spirit of the terms of service as possible, (Allowing for heated debates, bad days, misunderstandings drink and mood swings because we're all imperfect humans. But not thick-as-shit gullible imperfect humans).
If you can't operate within those terms of service, git fuct.
I see no justification for building a side ward for shit smearers. That still stinks the place up.
I agree with the logic of that Feather - but the reality (in my experience anyway) has shown that it doesn't work.
I grew up, naively, believing that everyone is fundamentally good (thank you Hollywood propaganda) and given the opportunity will have respect and consideration for their fellow humans.
The reality is that some people act purely in self interest and don't give a f**k as long as they get gratification according to THEIR particular needs.
All we can do is mitigate that negative influence. Because THEY will never change.
My Rights End Where Yours Begin so give me space FFS
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:44 #64

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What feather said re: troll pit. I'm not here to potty train ppl on how to be half decent, especially people who have shown decency when they wanted something from the community.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:45 #65

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Wise Haven wrote:
feather wrote:
FTR
I'm against a troll pit.
Sign up to and keep as close to the spirit of the terms of service as possible, (Allowing for heated debates, bad days, misunderstandings drink and mood swings because we're all imperfect humans. But not thick-as-shit gullible imperfect humans).
If you can't operate within those terms of service, git fuct.
I see no justification for building a side ward for shit smearers. That still stinks the place up.
I agree with the logic of that Feather - but the reality (in my experience anyway) has shown that it doesn't work.
I grew up, naively, believing that everyone is fundamentally good (thank you Hollywood propaganda) and given the opportunity will have respect and consideration for their fellow humans.
The reality is that some people act purely in self interest and don't give a f**k as long as they get gratification according to THEIR particular needs.
All we can do is mitigate that negative influence. Because THEY will never change.

I refer you to my doubling of time outs.

I think ent has had the longest at 8 weeks, still not had to ban him and he still comes back.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:47 #66

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oioioi wrote:
What feather said re: troll pit. I'm not here to potty train ppl on how to be half decent, especially people who have shown decency when they wanted something from the community.

:chin:

......

:chin:

.....

I remove my support for the troll pit. 6 in favour of the ban.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:49 #67

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oioioi wrote:
Wise Haven wrote:
feather wrote:
FTR
I'm against a troll pit.
Sign up to and keep as close to the spirit of the terms of service as possible, (Allowing for heated debates, bad days, misunderstandings drink and mood swings because we're all imperfect humans. But not thick-as-shit gullible imperfect humans).
If you can't operate within those terms of service, git fuct.
I see no justification for building a side ward for shit smearers. That still stinks the place up.
I agree with the logic of that Feather - but the reality (in my experience anyway) has shown that it doesn't work.
I grew up, naively, believing that everyone is fundamentally good (thank you Hollywood propaganda) and given the opportunity will have respect and consideration for their fellow humans.
The reality is that some people act purely in self interest and don't give a f**k as long as they get gratification according to THEIR particular needs.
All we can do is mitigate that negative influence. Because THEY will never change.

I refer you to my doubling of time outs.

I think ent has had the longest at 8 weeks, still not had to ban him and he still comes back.

Do you think there is much point in suspending him? We all know now he is a troll. If he wasn't he would have already learnt his lesson.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:49 #68

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oioioi wrote:
What feather said re: troll pit. I'm not here to potty train ppl on how to be half decent, especially people who have shown decency when they wanted something from the community.

But "They'll be back"

A troll pit isn't a pit that offers redemption or training - it is just containment.
My Rights End Where Yours Begin so give me space FFS
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:50 #69

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Wise Haven wrote:
I agree with the logic of that Feather - but the reality (in my experience anyway) has shown that it doesn't work.
I grew up, naively, believing that everyone is fundamentally good (thank you Hollywood propaganda) and given the opportunity will have respect and consideration for their fellow humans.
The reality is that some people act purely in self interest and don't give a f**k as long as they get gratification according to THEIR particular needs.
All we can do is mitigate that negative influence. Because THEY will never change.
I grew up in a situation where such naivety never took root.
You set a line and unless you have exceptional circumstances, you maintain that line otherwise the line becomes non-existent and no-one knows what is and is not acceptable.

My experience is that you encourage abuse by tacitly accepting or accommodating it.
I have no interest in that approach. It reeks of denial and complicity.
You would be as well cutting out the middleman and abusing people directly yourself rather than just being an enabler.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:53 #70

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Wise Haven wrote:
oioioi wrote:
What feather said re: troll pit. I'm not here to potty train ppl on how to be half decent, especially people who have shown decency when they wanted something from the community.

But "They'll be back"

A troll pit isn't a pit that offers redemption or training - it is just containment.

Containment the facilitators will have to watch over. I don't see how providing a part of the forum for ppl to smear their own faeces over helps the forum, there's a whole www for that! Easier to plonk them on the naughty step now we've got the sock issue under some level of control.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:53 #71

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On reflection I agree with Feather, a troll pit will just bring negativity. There's no point in keeping pet trolls is there? What are they good for?

I think we should stick with oi's suggestion of longer suspensions just not in Cousin Frothy's case coz his is very clear
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:57 #72

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SilvaRizla wrote:
On reflection I agree with Feather, a troll pit will just bring negativity. There's no point in keeping pet trolls is there? What are they good for?

I think we should stick with oi's suggestion of longer suspensions just not in Cousin Frothy's case coz his is very clear

BT has shown that when he wants to he can be a reasoned poster and expresses himself without random outbursts.

A week on the troll step may work for him, us tolerating him to whatever degree clearly doesn't work for him or the community in general.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 18:57 #73

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feather wrote:
Wise Haven wrote:
I agree with the logic of that Feather - but the reality (in my experience anyway) has shown that it doesn't work.
I grew up, naively, believing that everyone is fundamentally good (thank you Hollywood propaganda) and given the opportunity will have respect and consideration for their fellow humans.
The reality is that some people act purely in self interest and don't give a f**k as long as they get gratification according to THEIR particular needs.
All we can do is mitigate that negative influence. Because THEY will never change.
I grew up in a situation where such naivety never took root.
You set a line and unless you have exceptional circumstances, you maintain that line otherwise the line becomes non-existent and no-one knows what is and is not acceptable.

My experience is that you encourage abuse by tacitly accepting or accommodating it.
I have no interest in that approach. It reeks of denial and complicity.
You would be as well cutting out the middleman and abusing people directly yourself rather than just being an enabler.

True^^^but some people are so way beyond redemption, ever, that the only way is the "Hanging Tree" - Does anybody real want to go that way when there is a compromise which doesn't really cross the line in the sand in real terms?
My Rights End Where Yours Begin so give me space FFS
Last Edit: 15 Apr 2014 18:58 by Wise Haven.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 19:01 #74

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oioioi wrote:
SilvaRizla wrote:
On reflection I agree with Feather, a troll pit will just bring negativity. There's no point in keeping pet trolls is there? What are they good for?

I think we should stick with oi's suggestion of longer suspensions just not in Cousin Frothy's case coz his is very clear

BT has shown that when he wants to he can be a reasoned poster and expresses himself without random outbursts.

A week on the troll step may work for him, us tolerating him to whatever degree clearly doesn't work for him or the community in general.

I agree, hmmmm

If nothing else it will resolve this thread for some time because I really don't want to waste any more energy on him.

I don't think a week on the naughty step is enough though. I vote for two and if he fucks about after that take his key and bin bag him.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 19:03 #75

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I don't think it's a compromise that would be good for anyone concerned though, Wise.

And why's everyone agreeing with Feather, but ignored my post when I said the same thing earlier? Bastards!







:titsout: :P :moon:
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 19:05 #76

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I propose a month.

Let's remember he is already abusing a second chance.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 19:05 #77

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OK, go for the graduated naughty stop system - but when we have this "should we ban BT" thread again I want real "I told you so" medals that I can take to the bank and cash in for beer tokens.
Either that or Smirk Points on my profile :coffee:
My Rights End Where Yours Begin so give me space FFS
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 19:06 #78

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You have to adhere to the votes here or set up another poll, I reckon.
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Blue Tackler's Membership Status 15 Apr 2014 19:07 #79

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SilvaRizla wrote:
jhado wrote:
feather wrote:
He's been tugging your chains since day one and he's loving all this bollocks.

Again.

I thought this was worth re-quoting, every 15 minutes :spliff:

Cast your vote or fuck off! :D

I admit, I fell for it. I won't again though.

Cough and splutter, you can't tell me to fuck off, I'm a facilitator on this forum


Oh hang on , Sanctum Zone innit, ok cunt, carry on :spliff:
Forget yesterday. It has already forgotten you.
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Gilly wrote:
I don't think it's a compromise that would be good for anyone concerned though, Wise.

And why's everyone agreeing with Feather, but ignored my post when I said the same thing earlier? Bastards!







:titsout: :P :moon:
Feather is a knob and deserves hassling.....go on I dare you - put me on the naughty step :D
However you Gilly - command a much more reasonable response :)
My Rights End Where Yours Begin so give me space FFS
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