If he married and had children, why was it not mentioned, this is a very important historical figure. Not to be played down Mikey.

Don't misunderstand me Mikey,

try not to antagonize

Mary Magdalene is thought of as his mother by some, lots of confusion.

If he married and had children, why was it not mentioned, this is a very important historical figure.

Not to be played down Mikey.

Simple... it would undermine male control of the church(s) and possibly even the world.

He was married = he thought women were worthy of his time, even worthy of being important figures..

There is A LOT not contained in that little book bible thumpers carry around (no offense intended to anyone)....

StarsChildren wrote: Do you really believe that male dominated societies are only the Christian ones?

StarsChildren wrote: Well Jesus certainly had time for women and I am saddened that you have been lead to believe otherwise.

StarsChildren wrote:
Non taken I read mine. I don't thump it.

Which makes me think that whatever information the Vatican is holding has been collected throughout the ages and stockpiled there where other religions cannot get to it either.

However, in the eyes of some, if he was married that shows that it is not a male dominated world, it shows he considered women worthy.

Whatever lol... i blame those in power that stockpile information from the rest for whatever reasons they use. The Vatican is the most well known, although I am sure there other religious fanatics that are at the top and keep information from lowers. And at this very moment, I severely dislike the general male population, hence my biased view of them.
My opinion is biased and is lumping large groups of people together, I admit... opinion may change later on down the road... But for the moment, it remains...Jesus being married is not mainstream information because it poses a threat to the heads of the organized religion.

Edit: no offense taken, and no offense intended

silvershine wrote: Oh I am sure that the break down in communication is entirely my fault.
silvershine wrote: It was your comparison of a liar, theif, coward and suspected murderer to Christ. Not mine.
silvershine wrote:
And even more conflation.

But confusion over which Mary was which is no suprise considering that the name (after Moses' sister) was very very popular at the time and place. She is also said to have been Mary of Bethany, The betrothed of John the Evangelsit, the leader of the Early Church, and many a Gnostic suggest she was his lover and/or wife. (Oh and Dan Brown readership, but we must forgive them their shortcomings.) People have even referred to this wonderful woman as a prostitute for which there is no evidence of. But that is the darker side of people: gossipy, malicious, dishonest and unkind.

Personally I am more ineterested in what I can be sure of: she was there at the crcucifixion with HIs mother and John, unlike many of His followers. And she was there when they opened His tomb and the first to see Him after the Resurection. (Mark 15:40, Matthew 27:56 and John 19:25 ).
silvershine wrote:
Speculation? That could be the theme on many accounts Mikey.
Unfortunately as information gets passed on we have to ask how reliable is it?
Religion in itself has its messages and agendas, the agendas sometimes cause people to ask why, which I think is quite acceptable but it appears that some get upset when this happens.

Jesus being married is not mainstream information because it poses a threat to the heads of the organized religion.

Speculation? That could be the theme on many accounts Mikey.
Unfortunately as information gets passed on we have to ask how reliable is it?

Religion in itself has its messages and agendas the agendas sometimes cause people to ask why, which I think is quite acceptable

but it appears that some get upset when this happens.

StarsChildren wrote: The celibacy and non marriage commitment side of it?
If Christ done these things then it proves as in the video, he was a human being.

The celibacy and non marriage commitment side of it?

If Christ done these things then it proves as in the video, he was a human being.

silvershine wrote:
Oh dear. Who was it who got upset? Can you quote where they do?

A Harvard historian has identified a faded, fourth-century scrap of papyrus she calls "The Gospel of Jesus's Wife." One line of the torn fragment of text purportedly reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" The following line states, "she will be able to be my disciple.

Your thoughts.

More below.


"news.yahoo.com/jesus-had-wife-newly-disc...gests-202727064.html

*Apologies mods, I should have put this in the news section*

silvershine wrote:
The celibacy thing with priests began in the RCC later.

Orthodox and Protestant clergy may marry.

Celibacy amongst mystics is not unique to Christianity.
silvershine wrote:
So weeping, sweating, eating, drinking, living and dying does not suffice, does it?

Odd that you think sex is proof of humanity.

Was Christ himself a heretic against judaism?

silvershine wrote:
He was accused of that.

However, He said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

Matthew 5:17