A Harvard historian has identified a faded, fourth-century scrap of papyrus she calls "The Gospel of Jesus's Wife." One line of the torn fragment of text purportedly reads: "Jesus said to them, 'My wife …'" The following line states, "she will be able to be my disciple.

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*Apologies mods, I should have put this in the news section*

Moved it for you Shiney.
I needed the experience.

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feather wrote:
I was testing you feather, you have passed with flying colours.

Ask for a bonus.

Rick, I have read about the Buddhist relation, I will watch the video now.
Thanks.

....does not exist" "....is Wisdom Herself" "...goes shopping far too often"

Hardly as conclusive as the Yahoo article's title initally suggests.

But why not?

Would it change His message?

Certainly He approved of marraige, many of the Disciples were married.

It has parralells with a much older specualation: whether Jesus had a brother. The implication of which is that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, would not have been a virgin all her life, with all of the theological implications.

Such speculation is often motivated by genuine academic and historical motives and the theological impications are embraced in an ecumenical manner with no ulterior sectarian and/or political motives

However such specualtion has been used in the past with the intention of "disproving" Christianity.

It won't.

Basically - what Mikey said, above!

We'll never really know if Jesus was married or not. It would have been unusual for a young Jewish man of the 1st century AD not to marry, but then again, there were some sects whose members didn't marry. However, whether or not Jesus had a wife doesn't disprove Christianity, or change its fundamental message. It certainly has interesting implications, though - if Jesus had descendants, for example. And why has His wife seemingly been airbrushed out of history?

Mandy

I wonder if there was a pre-nuptial agreement drafted up.
She could have ended up scoring half of Heaven and Earth.







I was going to Hull anyway eh?

Mary Magdalene?

feather wrote:
he'd get crucified in court

mikey mikey wrote:
If the information is true it does raise many questions and is right to do so. Christianity and the bible already raises many questions.

If the India connection is to be believed then could it be said that followers of Christ have been deceived or are they really 'Buddhists' in disguise?

as long as you're a good person should it matter?

batou wrote:
It matters for many reasons, aside of the behaviour?
Why are certain aspects of such an important figure being left out of the most popular book that promotes christianity.
There has to be some sort of explanation, we know that some have used Occam's razor to try and explain the gap in Christs life stating that he was just living his life as a carpenter but that isn't good enough, there should be some kind of evidence for that.

silvershine wrote:
Deceived in what way?

If Jesus had indeed been married, as like most men of his time and place, would that change any word of what He said?

Would that alter His sacrifice?

@Mandy Re: speculation about children: Would his marital staus even mean He was not celibate?

Is His celibacy even an issue? Since when has Christianity taught against sex within marraige?

Why are we so preoccupied with marital status or siblings? Is it just gossip?

@silvershine
Buddhism does indeed share many things with Christianity; most importantly the Golden Rule. However from my point of view, suggesting that Christ was influenced by Buddhism is getting the cart before the horse: it is true that Buddhisn is approximately 500 years older than the Apostolic Age but, you see, I believe He was God in human form with all that this implies.

I lived amongst a strongly Buddhist family (in-laws) , attended their funerals, cermonies and said their prayers. I have even been to a lecture given by the Dalai Lama: the similarities are more than coincidence: Buddhism affectd the Jewish people through the contact with India and the Hellenistic world and in many ways paved the way for Christianity.

However, I would not go so far as some who would suggest that Christianity is "buddhism" and not in fact directly related to Judaism.

I am also skeptical of some New Age Gnostics who would just love to remove Judaism from the picture altogether.

oh hey shine, i meant the re: are christians just buddhists in disguise.
i guess what i mean is, even if jesus and buddha and allah etc. is all bullshit, if jesus had gay sex and mohammed ate pork chops and had his caricature done at the beach. if you believed in a magic penguin as god.. what does it matter as long as you're respectful, helpful, kind etc.

mikey mikey wrote: The deception would lie in the mainstream reports about Christs end days, dying on the cross being the end and then the resurrection not being truly told as it may have happened and disappearing off in to the sunset to start a new life.

It sounds a bit lord Lucan from where I am standing.

silvershine wrote:
His alleged wife did all that?

Wow! What a woman!
silvershine wrote:
Lord Lucan was a coward, a thief, a liar, and a suspected murderer.

In what way does he remind you of Christ?

mikey mikey wrote: Mikey do you not follow anything?
The similarity being they both have been said to gone off in to pastures new with people believing them to be dead.
There were some reports of Mi5 files being held or released on Lucan last year (if I remember) it was said by someone to have known the family at the time that he went abroad and didn't disappear off his boat, it appeared a very reliable witness and testimony.

Did you not see it?

No doubt in my mind he was married and had children (yes, plural).

silvershine wrote:
Is my slow wit frustrating you? You will have to forgive my lack of perspicacity.
silvershine wrote:
So not the bit about murdering a nanny and being addicted to gambling, just the fraud and deceit.

Right.

Well no, I don't see Christ as a liar, conman or coward that allowed men to martyr themselves for Him in vain.

But you are welcome too.

And where did his alleged wife figure into all this?

mikey mikey wrote:
Don't misunderstand me Mikey, I am comparing the similarities by story not by personality, try not to antagonize

Mary Magdalene is thought of as his mother by some, lots of confusion.

If he married and had children, why was it not mentioned, this is a very important historical figure. Not to be played down Mikey.