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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 12:46 #201

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Remember all those live resignations over the Iraq War?

Nope.

Andrew Gilligan,- forced to resign by Lord Hutton
Gavyn Davies - forced to resign by Lord Hutton
Greg Dyke - forced to resign by Lord Hutton
Piers Morgan - forced to resign and say the pics of torture victims were hoaxes
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 13:04 #202

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angelchemuel wrote:
a) Not really, they are already recognised as....can't remember the exact term....bit like Wales being a Principality.
b) To put to bed asap the division and get it in before the Ukranian elections on the 30th.
c) How would you rephrase it? Seems pretty straight forward to me. Let the people speak and say whether they want to secede or not.

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Autonomous Republic of Crimea: 1999–2013[edit]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea

As long as they don't use diebold machines or the guys carrying ballot boxes around as in Irelands referendum..
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 15:06 #203

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Never waste an opportunity to push a profit ......
These fuckers would be hysterical if they weren't so dangerous.

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feather wrote:
Never waste an opportunity to push a profit ......
These fuckers would be hysterical if they weren't so dangerous.


Not sure which of those talking heads I despise the most. Probably O'Reilly although Palin comes a close second.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 15:59 #205

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hugorune wrote:
Not sure which of those talking heads I despise the most. Probably O'Reilly although Palin comes a close second.
O' Reilly is possibly the worst human-being in the world.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 16:46 #206

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
hugorune wrote:
Not sure which of those talking heads I despise the most. Probably O'Reilly although Palin comes a close second.
O' Reilly is possibly the worst human-being in the world.

We might need a poll to find out. :hahano:
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 16:48 #207

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 16:54 #208

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hugorune wrote:
wake_up_bomb wrote:
hugorune wrote:
Not sure which of those talking heads I despise the most. Probably O'Reilly although Palin comes a close second.
O' Reilly is possibly the worst human-being in the world.

We might need a poll to find out. :hahano:
Hannity, Bill Kristol, Pat Robertson and that Fat, Nazi, Junkie, Racist, Misogynist, Bastard Rush Limbaugh would also need to be slung into the poll options.
Not that I have an opinion on these people mind. :coffee:

Palin looks more and more like a surplus character from Thunderbirds and she talks like a badly cut set of samples stuck on random playback selection.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 17:16 #209

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
hugorune wrote:
Not sure which of those talking heads I despise the most. Probably O'Reilly although Palin comes a close second.
O' Reilly is possibly the worst human-being in the world.

I think he's pipped to the post by either Ehrlich or John Bolton.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 21:28 #212

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^
Going off subject here and you most probably will be skeptical.

This pattern will be played out in Iran soon.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 21:32 #213

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It is inevitable

Hegemony or Death

Basically it's the Jeremy Clarkson fellow in your office

All fun and games until something does not go his way.

And then it's "WIth us" (meaning be my sidekick) or "against us" (meaning I vent my vehemence onto you).

I know a few guys just like that.

We never got on.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 21:32 #214

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humanspirit wrote:
^
Going off subject here and you most probably will be skeptical.

This pattern will be played out in Iran soon.

Wouldn't surprise me at all, mate. :(

They've been on the list for a while now.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 21:35 #215

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More than a decade ago
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 22:13 #216

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Kerry said the executive order on sanctions signed by Obama on Thursday provided a legal framework for imposing sanctions but also left open the door for dialogue over Ukraine.

The Pentagon meanwhile announced a large-scale air force exercise in Poland which Washington's ambassador to Warsaw said had been augmented to reassure U.S. allies in the region in the light of the Ukraine crisis.

news.yahoo.com/big-power-talks-ukraine-c...21587--business.html
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Kara Class Cruiser Sunk

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense released the above image today showing the Russian Navy’s Ochakov, a Kara-class cruiser, which was intentionally sunk last night to blockade the Ukrainian Navy ships located in Novoozerne

Russian Federation ships blocking the Ukrainian ships in Donuszlav lake, including the missile cruiser “Moskva,” departed just before midnight on 5 March, then towed the Ochakov, filled her with water, and then sunk her in 9-11 meters of water depth between the North and South spits at the entrance to Lake Donuzlav. This effectively blocks any means for Ukraine’s warships to leave the lake through the narrow channel.

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 22:31 #218

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On the heels of the Russian navy intentionally sinking a vessel blocking the Ukrainian navy from entering The Black Sea, Ukraine Pravda reports that it is "most probable that Russian troops will assault units in Ukrainian Crimea overnight continuing to the weekend." Citing a source in the uniformed services, Ukraine Pravda warns that "despite reports that Russian troops ended in learning, active phase lasts. They did not return to the barracks," and maintain "peak readiness."

Via Ukraine Pravda (via Google Translate),

On the night of Thursday to Friday a great opportunity to assault Ukrainian part of the Russian special forces.

This "Ukrainian Pravda" reported a source in the uniformed services.

"Despite reports that Russian troops ended in learning, active phase lasts. They did not return to the barracks. Could maintain peak readiness by the end of the weekend," - said the source.

"The most probable that the assault would take place that night, but the danger will persist to the end of the weekend" - source added.

"There are three scenarios. First - this air strike," - said the source.

He said that if Russian troops will withdraw from parts of the Ukrainian, that would mean this version.

"Helicopters are already relocated, and it is possible that they will do exactly helicopters," - said the UP.

"The second option - a special operations force for disarmament," - he said.

The interviewee said that in the Crimea are Russian special forces "Alpha", "Vympel" and "Zaslon."

"The third option: they can come up with ryazhenymy Cossacks, as with a living shield. Example is happening" - he added.

He also reminded that the Russian troops flooded his ship to block the path of Ukrainian courts.

According to the source, impacts may not be in all parts, but only by those who are the most combat-ready, including Sevastopol and Feodosiya.
And this follows the sinking of a ship to block the Ukrainian Navy...
www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-06/high-p...-ukraine-pravda-says
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 22:34 #219

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Well it seems the NaNs (neo cons included) will finally reveal themselves.

Obviously neo cons and so-called "libertarians" and "patriots" and "third way purple Nu-Labourite liberals" have done so much fucking good for the World :roll:

Time we got this sorted, I guess

Pity that greed and narcissism has to kill so many in the meantime. :(
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 22:43 #220

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Heseltine on Question Time right now actually saying we should change our standpoint with Russia especially looking 20 years ahead! Wow! He went into more details and it was very, very interesting!
Now there's a Russian speaking!!!!! And saying EU west funded what's happening!
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