It's around 11.52 on the video that Michael Heseltine says there's no point getting into the minutiae.

The thing is the minutiae is very important in politics otherwise deceit and corruption flourish and people end up being misled.

When politicians and so called experts use terms such as (us,we,them) it's to vague,specifics are everything and using terms such as Europe and Russia are not detailed enough,it's the people in power and specific names that should be used.

Terms such as us,we,them should be discouraged in every aspect of conversation as it's lazy and inaccurate.

formerly known as the Social National Party of Ukraine -- is an anti-Russian, anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi party. In the 2012 elections, it gained ten percent of the vote and secured 37 parliamentary seats. Svoboda rose to play a prominent, leading role in the Euromaidan protests in Kiev. The Svoboda flag uses the colours of the Ukrainian flag: blue with a yellow three-finger salute.
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Established in 2013, the Right Sector is an umbrella organisation bringing together a number of ultra-nationalist paramilitary groups, including the Patriots of Ukraine, Trizub, SNA, UNA-UNSO and White Hammer. Many of these hardline nationalist street fighters have been training for armed revolution in Ukraine for years.

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The paramilitary known as Ukrainian National Assembly-Ukrainian National Self Defense (UNA-UNSO) dress in uniforms modelled on Hitler's Waffen SS and have been fighting Russia for years, including in Chechnya.

Appointments

Oleksandr Sych: appointed Deputy Prime Minister. Sych is a member of Svoboda Party.

Andriy Parubiy: appointed Secretary of the Ukrainian National Security and Defence Council. Parubiy founded the Social National Party of Ukraine [the symbol of which was the neo-Nazi wolfsangel] which went on to become Svoboda. Parubiy will oversee national security.

Dmytro Yarosh: appointed Deputy Secretary of National Security. Yarosh leads the Right Sector and served as "security commandant" during the Euromaidan protests.

Dmytro Bulatov: appointed Minster for Youth and Sports. Bulatov is reportedly connected to UNA-UNSO.

Tetyana Chernovol: appointed chair of the government's anti-corruption committee. An activist journalist, Chernovol is reportedly connected to UNA-UNSO.

Andriy Mokhnyk: appointed Minister for Ecology. Mokhnyk is the deputy head of Svoboda.

Ihor Shvaika: appointed Minister for Agriculture. Shvaika is a member of Svoboda.

Oleh Makhnitsky: appointed acting prosecutor general. Makhnitsky is a member of Svoboda.

First post-revolution legislative action

The new parliament's first post-revolution legislative action was to repeal the law "On State Language Policy" -- a law passed in 2012 that allowed the use of "regional languages", including Russian, Hungarian, Romanian and Tatar, in courts and certain government functions in areas of the country where such speakers constituted at least 10 percent of the population. Thirteen out of Ukraine's 27 regions, primarily in Eastern Ukraine, subsequently adopted Russian as a second official language, while two western regions introduced Romanian and Hungarian as official languages. The annulment, which left Ukrainian as the only official language of Ukraine, was a direct attack on the cultural and linguistic rights of the Russian-speaking minority. After the European Parliament protested, demanding the new Ukrainian regime respect the rights of minorities. Interim President Oleksandr Turchynov (a Baptist) subsequently vetoed the repeal, but the episode sent alarm bells rings through the ethnic minorities.

Further to this, moves are afoot to overturn a law that forbids "denying or excusing the crimes of fascism".

As noted in the earlier post, some 1.7 million Jews were shot in Ukraine during WWII under supervision of the Nazis. In 2010, Ukraine's then US-backed President Viktor Yushchenko pronounced World War II-era nationalist leader Stepan Bandera a national hero. (Bandera was an ally of Nazi Germany whose followers participated in massacres of Ukrainian Jews.) And on 1 Jan 2014, some 1500 Euromaidan protesters marched in a Svoboda-run torchlight procession in honour of Bandera. Click HERE for a very disturbing photograph -- disturbing because the Bandera-honouring, Svoboda flag-bearing marchers are not scary skinheads; they are families and priests. (NB: The red and black flag represents an ultra-nationalist paramilitary.)

Meanwhile, as if totally blind and brain dead, the Russophobic Western media just brushes off talk of neo-Nazis and rising anti-Semitism as scaremongering and propaganda.

But as extremism expert Pers Anders Rudling notes, "It doesn't help Ukraine to be selective and ignore this problem."

With all the talk from the American and UK governments about the Russian government being wrong for sending in troops to protect ethnic Russians from possible attacks from Nazis i was wondering if forum members had examples of UK gov and US gov doing same thing.

Northern Ireland has to be a good example surely Where the UK gov sent in troops.

Reporter - "Are you a nazi ?"
Neo fascist - "No, i don't think im a nazi, i am a Ukrainian nationalist.
reporter "What does that mean"
Neo fascist " The main confrontation is that some ethnic groups have control of business, econommics and political forces"
Reporter - "Like who ?"
Neo fascist - "Russians, jews and Poles."

The flagship of the Black Sea Fleet missile cruiser "Moskva" headed for Ukraine, preparing the landing of marines. Told the head of the Center for Military-Political Studies D. TIMCHUK on his page in Facebook . "We're tracking his movements," - he wrote. Read more: In Dzhankoi captured military airport checkpoint As it was reported before that cruiser "Moskva" with other ships of the Black Sea Fleet was blocking access to the sea from the lake Donuzlav, where the mooring wall are 7 Ukrainian ships. In addition, there is information that the couple Helicopter MI-8 at 20 km from Kherson landed 2 amphibious reconnaissance group of 15 people. The chairman of the NGO "Quality of Life" Alex Goncharenko on your blog . According Goncharenko, their goal - preparing a base for landing tactical landing, near Ckadovska. "The goal - Kakhovska TPP. Establish beacons to navigate where paratroopers to land at night," - he wrote. He added that he is prepared landing battalion tactical groups and Marines in Kherson and Odessa areas. "Odessa area will be monitored 17 and 18 mechanized infantry brigades Southern District of. Much of the personnel of these teams - ethnic Chechens and Ossetians," - wrote Goncharenko.

A perimeter of ships on high alert in Ukrainian territorial waters in the Black Sea is being approached by three Russian missile ships and the missile cruiser Moscow, the Border Guard Service of Ukraine told Interfax-Ukraine.

“According to our latest information, the marine guard vessels that recently left Balaklava in Sevastopol are being approached by three missile launchers and the missile cruiser Moscow, which belong to the Russian Federation,” says Serhiy Astakhov, head of the State Border Guard Service.

According to Astakhov, it is not clear why the Russian vessels are approaching the Ukrainian border. Earlier, it was reported that armed people were trying to capture the marine guard detachment of the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine in Sevastopol.

Russian military seized private property on the border with the Crimea peninsula Chongar Genichesk in Kherson region. This was stated by Chairman of Kherson Regional Administration Yuriy Odarchenko reports Ukrinform . "Imagine Russian military went to Kherson land. Today they have moved on Chongar roughly brazenly seized there and private property, and the hotel. And show us that it is absolutely clear intervention, brazen and daring attack on the sovereign state of Ukraine. And its they are trying to extend the influence of these in the Kherson region "- said Odarchenko. However, he assured, "there clearly that we will keep it and not let it spread the impact." As you know, on March 8, it became known that the Russian soldiers went to the village Chongar (Kherson region) on the border with Crimea and mined there field, sending their trunks APCs toward the village. Also tractor they dug pits under the border posts.

I am also seeing Russian troops building in Transnistria.read somewhere they are sending special forces there. That is near western Ukrainian. Its a break away province of Moldova. Looking for links.

hardly any wonder Putin, Cameron and Merkel have been in hard talks all day!
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Jane

The latest from the guy in the Ukraine...he's neither russian or ukranian btw....
From....
www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/03/9/7018240/
This is Ukranian Pravda...not Russian and it's being picked up by the MSM now too apparently

He seems to think this is very bad

Ok confirmed by TV channel 24


The Russian military is already in Kherson (Mainland Ukraine): seized private property and objects

It's around 11.52 on the video that Michael Heseltine says there's no point getting into the minutiae.