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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 23:09 #221

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Heseltine on Question Time right now actually saying we should change our standpoint with Russia especially looking 20 years ahead! Wow! He went into more details and it was very, very interesting!
Now there's a Russian speaking!!!!! And saying EU west funded what's happening!
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FYI on Heseltine

Baron Heseltine
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 23:41 #222

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......and?
What does that matter, or am I missing something? Don't think he's going to be visiting this corner of the interweb to get pissed at me for not doffing my cap and calling him Lord Heseltine :D
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 23:43 #223

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Fuck barons and queens and kings.

He was a stooge and is still a Tory bastard as much as Blair and the whole shibang
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 23:49 #224

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Interesting video....
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 06 Mar 2014 23:54 #225

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Executive Order -- Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine

EXECUTIVE ORDER
BLOCKING PROPERTY OF CERTAIN PERSONS CONTRIBUTING TO THE SITUATION IN UKRAINE

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, find that the actions and policies of persons -- including persons who have asserted governmental authority in the Crimean region without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine -- that undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine; threaten its peace, security, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity; and contribute to the misappropriation of its assets, constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat. I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person (including any foreign branch) of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State:

etc., etc., etc., here....
www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014...ntributing-situation

and here's an article that explains it without the legal jingo...
www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/03/...ravel/2081394133509/
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 00:54 #226

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Interesting wording in the legal jingo there.

Sec. 6. For the purposes of this order:

(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;

(b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

Nice to see the legal person plain as day explained there for all to see.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 00:59 #227

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And THAT is why we should never have educated (i.e told the plebs our code) the fucking proles
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 09:27 #228

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 10:40 #229

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mikey mikey wrote:


More than a decade ago

I actually believe (in the UK at least) groups are being created from Iran who are dissatisfied with the current government over there and these groups will filter back into Iran to start their own version of maidan.

These people go under the name of Persians and are right wing.

I could be totally wrong of course and in that case just forget this bullshit i am typing. :P
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 15:56 #230

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What passes for 'journalism' on television is literally pathetic. "No-one's ever censored me", says Piers Morgan. Yeah, that's because you don't have anything relevant to say!
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 16:10 #231

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andyh wrote:
Interesting wording in the legal jingo there.

Sec. 6. For the purposes of this order:

(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;

(b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

Nice to see the legal person plain as day explained there for all to see.
Intersesting :cool: having to further define commonly understood English language words. Makes one wonder what they usually mean, in legalese ;)
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 17:31 #232

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26468720

^BBC now making excuses for nazis, now they are not-a-nazis because there's nothing anti-semitic about them :)
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 17:37 #233

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andyh wrote:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26468720

^BBC now making excuses for nazis, now they are not-a-nazis because there's nothing anti-semitic about them :)

Wow - talk about a BLATENT propaganda piece. The BBC says so - so it must be true.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 17:55 #234

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Quality Street wrote:
andyh wrote:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26468720

^BBC now making excuses for nazis, now they are not-a-nazis because there's nothing anti-semitic about them :)

Wow - talk about a BLATENT propaganda piece. The BBC says so - so it must be true.
Indeed - I love to watch BBC damage limitation spin after they have been caught with their pants down.

I.m waiting for them to coin the term "Nice Nazis" to get out of this scrape :rofl:
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 18:17 #235

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Their ubiquitous battle cry, "Hail Ukraine! Hail the heroes!", taken from the UPA, has now been largely stripped of its fascist and ethno-centric meaning.

"And Sieg Heil no longer has Hitler type connotations and is considered to be a motto of inspiring positivity roughly translating as "Yay, winning!"

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 19:16 #236

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Unless you are a footballer

www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21829682
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 21:03 #237

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 21:15 #238

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Okay Michael is a reasonable Old School.
. Probably why he was labelled as MAD


Looking at the line-up the show should be called Question the Right Time
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 07 Mar 2014 23:12 #239

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It's around 11.52 on the video that Michael Heseltine says there's no point getting into the minutiae. :roll:

The thing is the minutiae is very important in politics otherwise deceit and corruption flourish and people end up being misled.

When politicians and so called experts use terms such as (us,we,them) it's to vague,specifics are everything and using terms such as Europe and Russia are not detailed enough,it's the people in power and specific names that should be used.

Terms such as us,we,them should be discouraged in every aspect of conversation as it's lazy and inaccurate.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 08 Mar 2014 12:34 #240

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mikey mikey wrote:
Okay Michael is a reasonable Old School.
. Probably why he was labelled as MAD


Looking at the line-up the show should be called Question the Right Time
Do you remember his nickname Mikey?

Tarzan lol
I reckon he is a closet Marxist. He was always involved when it cames to knifings of conservative politicians.
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