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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 10:16 #721

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Guevarista wrote:
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Google is your friend...Namely if you Google pretty much any news event you find that the majority of the main stream news outlets report events almost identically. The reason for that is that they are not vehicles for journalists, they are vehicles for reporters. Those reporters report what the news agencies like Reuters and Associated Press put out there.
That is such a weird statement, it's ultra surreal, ultra loaded, the real reason most news events on google news are covered similarly by different media outlets is because they are writing about the same events :up:

Word for word almost with importantly the same opinion and no investigation and followup of their own.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 10:16 #722

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I never called you a sly fox. I am not a liar either.

You are a gutless liar - I now know this with absolute certainty, and as such, will ignore you completely.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 10:18 #723

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Gilly you are the one who put forward the idea that the children were fake and whilst you held it at arms length you did then continue to suggest Photoshop etc. So it seems you just want to stir up the shit but don't want any of the smell on you.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 10:20 #724

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Gilly wrote:
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I never called you a sly fox. I am not a liar either.

You are a gutless liar - I now know this with absolute certainty, and as such, will ignore you completely.


No I think you are mistaken. I don't talk like that.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 10:25 #725

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i-baster wrote:
The republicans have done their best to avoid progress and Obama has done a lot of good I think. Wrong thread though.


I know I just lost cool points with people but I never wanted popularity.


As for the claims that people are actors and linked to some sort of crisis video company. Who claimed this Gilly. You appear to be using fox techniques, source and supporting evidence would be nice.


I think Gilly is talking about this. Nothing was edited out . I am on ignore apparently but I would like the other members to know I did not lie or edit. I searched my posts a few pages and saw fox in my post.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 11:34 #726

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So for the record you meant "Fox News" techniques I-b?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 14:29 #727

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:toetap:Guevarista wrote:
wake_up_bomb wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
Google is your friend...Namely if you Google pretty much any news event you find that the majority of the main stream news outlets report events almost identically. The reason for that is that they are not vehicles for journalists, they are vehicles for reporters. Those reporters report what the news agencies like Reuters and Associated Press put out there.
So what appear on the surface to be independent media outlets are in reality just mediums for the dissemination of a very limited view of events. A system like that makes it very easy to shepherd millions of people's understanding of events into a teeny weeny fold.

Imo reporters for the main stream news outlets should be some of the lowest paid employees in our societies, they literally do sweet FA beyond copying and pasting what they have placed in front of them. Strangely though, they're rather well paid and held to be respected citizens in the main.
All totally true. And, of course, we've already got books like "Manufacturing Consent" in which a propaganda model shows explicitly that the media systematically distorts information:
So do you adhere to that propaganda model yourself, it seems many people base their position solely on the existence of that propaganda model?

If that is what the media does "systematically distorts information", what do you think is the role of the alternative media, or say Gilly's input to this thread?

Or Pheony's input here:
Have you seen Grace Mcdonnells parents being interviewed?..I saw it elsewhere tonight and couldn’t detect any grief..very strange considering their daughter has been killed in such an awful way and it is so soon after her death
I respect your view as someone who has studied psychology, would you say these individuals recent ordeals make it easier or harder for us to make a conclusive judgement on their emotional/psychological state?

Would you say Pheony's statement carries a certain implication/subtext?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 14:44 #728

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i-baster wrote:
I never called you a sly fox. I am not a liar either.

As for your issue regarding the identification of bodies that was not my decision to make so I can't tell you I just offered my opinion on a possible reason. As for the ME I would suggest that either he has not been briefed on whether the sheriff or whoever want that info released to public or possibly he had a freeze up that you often see in nervous people. There are any number of possible scenarios. The ar15 can mess up a face without being close range I would imagine and also as he states he was not finished and only dealt with 7.

It is also possible that some parents were allowed to see their children but the sheriff department didn't want the other parents finding out. The decision to show bodies via photo does seem like a good idea for the parents although of course I understand some people want to see the body in person. I also understand why they might not want that. They probably lacked staff to clean up the corpses to make them less disturbing too. The smell etc would add to the traumatic experience. Plus simply the large number to deal with. It could be something sinister but there are also much more likely logical answers.
Do you think it's legitimate to even question what occurred? Or do you think we should automatically accept the version of events communicated by the FBI, exploited by the federal government, and reported by the mainstream media?

If so, are there any circumstances in which we shouldn't automatically accept information provided by these sources?

If so, could you give me an example of when we should question information from these sources?

Finally, how does the example you've given (assuming that you think we should question officialdom occasionally) differ from this situation?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 14:48 #729

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People on the DIF forum think everything is fake including the victims...smh

They also think all 3000 9/11 victims were all fake....

I know 2 people who died on 9/11 one in the towers and the other in the Pentagon was my friend.

Makes me just wan't to give up on conspiracy theories like this.

Yes there can be dis info out there. But you are making a huge sweeping generalisation about all posters on the DIF, which to me is at the least highly ambitious of you. There is a wide variety of opinions there on these subjects.

there are always multiple possibilites for any scenario...i dont need to go quoting socrates now but my homeboy knew the deal in his quotes about what we know and dont know.

now..how about one possible scenario...all victims are real, but the event was carried out for reasons other than what we are told...i dont give a fuck about what any of the reuters and assoc press apologists say here or anywhere else. What i just said..well to me ts plausible.

Thing is novum that i'm not sure if the idea of everything being faked is necessarily dis info.

I'm actually starting to think some people really believe these events are totally fake and nobody died.

At least in the case of 9/11 i could never believe that because i know 2 people that died.

When i said that on DIF i got multiple responses calling me a Shill ect... :facepalm:

Which i find very strange since i do think 9/11 is probably a conspiracy from multiple aspects.

But for people in other countries to say it was all smoke and mirrors and nobody died is outrageous.

I assume it all comes from people watching a movie called september clues because someone said this.

"Might I suggest you contact www.septemberclues.info/ as they are looking for validation of survivors."

It's just the fact people in other countries think nobody died is leaving me even more sceptical about CT.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 14:52 #730

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I'm actually starting to think some people really believe these events are totally fake and nobody died.
Please show us where this was stated. Except by yourself or others as a smear tactic.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 14:57 #731

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.......... wrote:
novum wrote:
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People on the DIF forum think everything is fake including the victims...smh

They also think all 3000 9/11 victims were all fake....

I know 2 people who died on 9/11 one in the towers and the other in the Pentagon was my friend.

Makes me just wan't to give up on conspiracy theories like this.

Yes there can be dis info out there. But you are making a huge sweeping generalisation about all posters on the DIF, which to me is at the least highly ambitious of you. There is a wide variety of opinions there on these subjects.

there are always multiple possibilites for any scenario...i dont need to go quoting socrates now but my homeboy knew the deal in his quotes about what we know and dont know.

now..how about one possible scenario...all victims are real, but the event was carried out for reasons other than what we are told...i dont give a fuck about what any of the reuters and assoc press apologists say here or anywhere else. What i just said..well to me ts plausible.

Thing is novum that i'm not sure if the idea of everything being faked is necessarily dis info.

I'm actually starting to think some people really believe these events are totally fake and nobody died.

At least in the case of 9/11 i could never believe that because i know 2 people that died.

When i said that on DIF i got multiple responses calling me a Shill ect... :facepalm:

Which i find very strange since i do think 9/11 is probably a conspiracy from multiple aspects.

But for people in other countries to say it was all smoke and mirrors and nobody died is outrageous.

I assume it all comes from people watching a movie called september clues because someone said this.

"Might I suggest you contact www.septemberclues.info/ as they are looking for validation of survivors."

It's just the fact people in other countries think nobody died is leaving me even more sceptical about CT.

An event need not be totally faked for it to have its intended purpose.
On 9/11 planes did hit buildings and 3000 or so people did indeed die, however, the official description of what happened literally breaks the laws of physics, you know...things like buildings falling into their own footprint at near freefall speed, 3 times on the same day and one of the buildings not even hit by a plane, then there's these awkward pesky terrorists whose passports survive it all (lol) who then turn up later alive and well and wondering wtf they're on TV!

But thats all just 'conspiracy theory' and to be totally ignored.

What I would question in this case is who exactly the shooter really was....what was the actual murder weapon used.
(still yet to be addressed or investigated in any way whatsoever...)
Then there is the motive but we ignore that because the guy was ' a retard' or something.

I would put it to anyone that news both can and indeed has been staged many times.
The proof of this is overwhelming and tbh I'm surprised anyone here hasn't seen it given that afaik everyone here's been on DIF for ages too!?

Eg David de Rothschild.

www.whale.to/c/tony_greenberg.html

Tony Greenberg....aka David Rothschild....aka Bin Ladens son! lol....

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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 15:03 #732

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Has this board turned to full on satire now Andy?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 16:36 #733

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andyh wrote:
The proof of this is overwhelming and tbh I'm surprised anyone here hasn't seen it given that afaik everyone here's been on DIF for ages too!?
Eg David de Rothschild.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 16:44 #734

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Like it or not, the two faces are identical.
Eye colour can be changed with contact lenses.

Now try looking up david de rothschild as a kid. Go ahead :)
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 16:48 #735

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They don't look identical to me...the guy on the left's nose is wider at the top than Rothschild's for a start.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 16:51 #736

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They don't look identical to me...the guy on the left's nose is wider at the top than Rothschild's for a start.

You can only assume that the nose is wider if both pictures are taken from the same distance with the same camera, and ofc if you are measuring from the same point/s,
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 17:20 #737

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They are clearly not the same person :conf:
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 17:25 #738

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They are clearly not the same person :conf:

OK so where is David de Rothschild as a kid?
I'm still waiting for a single photo.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting - Sandy Hook Elementary School 24 Dec 2012 17:26 #739

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andyh wrote:
Like it or not, the two faces are identical.
Eye colour can be changed with contact lenses.

Now try looking up david de rothschild as a kid. Go ahead :)

Having a family album of childhood snaps on the internet is not a prerequisite for existence, even if you're rich and famous and shit.

Find me a picture of Noam Chomsky as a child. If you can't he's someone else he looks kinda like I'm sure I could find if I tried hard enough.
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dogsmilk wrote:
andyh wrote:
Like it or not, the two faces are identical.
Eye colour can be changed with contact lenses.

Now try looking up david de rothschild as a kid. Go ahead :)

Having a family album of childhood snaps on the internet is not a prerequisite for existence, even if you're rich and famous and shit.

Find me a picture of Noam Chomsky as a child. If you can't he's someone else he looks kinda like I'm sure I could find if I tried hard enough.

Then keep trying lol.

Chomsky Small Child (fair Use)

^Noam Chomsky, took 5 seconds.
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