crazybeats wrote:


You have to see the funny side of it or it will get to you. I hate to see people getting ripped off too but surely anybody with half a brain should have cottoned on by now.

You were saying in an earlier post about DIF and TPV supporters, for the record I very rarely went to DIF but supported TPV at the beginning. Maybe there are a lot of supporters like me who watched youtubes or read articles but didn't necessarily participate with DIF. I know my sister has watched loads of Icky youtubes and has never been on a forum in her life.

My old friend Micklemus is teetering on the edge of a ban for having the temerity to point out that the TPV advertising push is clearly not going to work.

More to follow later, when I have time.

That doesn't surprise me. Do any of you know about Project Camelot/Project Avalon? I got banned from their forum for mentioning TPV's problems and the thing is it was someone else who started the thread and I was only mentioning some of the revelations that were coming out about the place. 3 days later one of the admin there emailed me to say, we have closed your account and we don't think you should be with us on your spiritual journey but we wish you well and hope that you see the light. So I went off on one and of course Bill Ryan who is David's friend. Project Camelot/Avalon pretty much died in 2009.

It hasn't been relevant since then because the promote/put their faith in the wrong 'whistleblowers' and that is a whole other topic entirely. These are the kind of people that will tell you that they are in constant contact with ETs, they get information on the planet, some of them go to other planets and they laugh and giggle and oh.....what a journey that is but we can't tell you about it no. No we can't do that. Some can astral travel, leave their bodies! Some have been possessed by reptilian entities and even seen reptilians but can't prove any of it or tell you how YOU can have an ET experience and some have dreams so whenever the next big date comes around and that's partly why Bill Ryan is an old forgotten about waste of space. Every date that came along has passed. A big earthquake is coming, this is the big one! Oh that didn't happen. You know why it didn't happen right? It wasn't real! It was HAARP!!! And our collective love stopped it! The next one is an EMP in 2012/2013, that never happened. Then the good ETs are coming to save us. That didn't happen either. So they have these in their dreams. They're building more underground bunkers apparantly, well that makes sense because I had a dream.................I dreamed of explosions and nuclear attacks in US cities but I didn't want to scare anyone but now that someone else has mentioned a DATE I feel as though it's my duty to come on here and share what I know. And of course everyone thanks them, thankyou for your love and we will all pray and send out positive vibes to stop this happening. And of course if you point any of this out to them you get sneered at or the admin comes with their own warnings. I don't know if any of you know about Jordan Maxwell, he's another big fraud, it's not even his real name, another one that copies other people's work and releases it as his own in books. I made a joke about him being afraid of aliens because he keeps talking about his terrified he is of them and this was a few years ago now and I said maybe he thinks Bill Ryan is a reptilian. Within half an hour I had an email from Bill Ryan himself to tell me that this post was removed from the forum because that forum is being watched closely by the establishment and when you post on that forum it becomes history, it can be searchable on Google and while I may find it a funny joke, there are many people out there who wouldn't see a funny side to him being called a reptilian and might even believe he is one.


So his good nature got him a quote on the back of David's book. He's good chums with David and his admins work much the same way. Funnily enough Bill posted an email David sent him about the so called problems at TPV and it was very smug. Typical old Powers That Be.

Do we know how many paid staff there are at TPV?

Too many is my guess!

Project Camelot was a crock of shit. Daft pseudo hippies trying to make an easy living out of interviewing people who just talked complete bollox.
It's hardly surprising they're buddies with Icke.

I used to laugh at the amount of rage Kerry Cassidy got aimed at her. The constant talking over guests, the sarcastic replies, the famous one being 'oh yeah' with the head tilted back. Then they bring in David Wilcock and oh.........I could talk for hours on the whole thing. It just irritated me and Bill Ryan is no saint. They asked for money a while back so him and David could go to Africa to meet Credo Mutwa, apparantly to film hours and hours of footage and interviews with him then release it on DVD and nothing has surfaced. Not even a 10 minute clip so where that money went or why those interviews were never released I'll never know. Of course Bill Ryan is in Ecuador right now believing that's the place to be when the shit hits the fan and the globalists run to their underground bunkers and it's all very lovely and we help each other and we grow our own fruit from the trees and we live with nature and we climb hills every day and go on road trips.

Nice life if you can get it. Although I will say that Kerry and Bill did use their own money to travel the world because of inheritance they were left when their parents died so I'll give them credit with that, they did do it all off their own back and they did always say that they don't agree with everything a guest says, it's only their job to interview them and then you make your own mind up. But somewhere along the way things changed. Bill was always the nice one that people sided with and Kerry was the drama queen that thought her shit didn't stink and she was this big star and named it Project Camelot Productions, Productions meaning like a big time company when it's not. I think she works a job to pay her bills and does all this fighting the elite stuff on the side but Bill Ryan is no saint and you know what? He doesn't matter. If any of you seen what happened with the Charles material and all the stuff to do with admins over there leaving and all the stuff with PMs being read by admins and lots of other horrid stuff then you'll have no sympathy for them. It's so hokey though. Did any of you hear David Wilcock crying when he got threatened, or he supposedly got threatened because of some super secret information he was planning to release? It was hysterical. Then you have Kerry saying to him, you are loved David, we love you, waa waa waaa I'm leaving my home tonight, a car is picking me up and I'm going into hiding, waa waaa waaa, David you are loved! We are thinking of you at this important time! lol. Even Bill distanced himself from that charade.

Micklar wrote:
Amazing, innit?
They really don't see the irony of their actions. It's all about ££££££.

I wonder if DI is going to make a statement at some point saying "he is retiring from public life". Well at least his pension will be sorted.

Viewing figures show that The People's Voice is gathering pace and popularity all the time - despite all the challenges.

Latest figures electronically recorded with 100% accuracy show that the TPV to-air screen had nearly 1.6 million views last month with this month promising to surpass that.

Taking all views together, the to-air page, YouTube and other platforms, The People's Voice has so far had more than 6 million views since the station went on air in late November.

The potential is fantastic, especially if we can gain access to two satellites which is now a strong possibility if we get the support.

Support TPV - the dream has only just begun. Further info can be found at www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-s-voice-and-you



So that's the next step then? 2 satellites. Why have I got the feeling that they will continue to be nothing more than an internet streaming service? 6 million views? Is that 6 million different people or the same 1.6 million logging in every other day? Or are we talking thousands logging in per day but once you add it all up it equals 1.6 million views?

Timelord wrote:
Yep. They don't get the fact that by burying the obvious problems (and maybe more) with TPV and silencing the doubters they are actually aligning themselves with all the sh1t which will inevitably hit the fan in the not too distant future. Which will also splatter DI himself.

The near future might indeed be a good time for Mr Icke to stand aside and enjoy retirement. I can't see him doing it though.

Do most tv stations all buy their own satellites?

wtf?!

crazybeats wrote:
We all know they're meaningless stats. I've taken a look on a handful of occasions, which no doubt makes me 1-5 (depending on how it's counted) of those millions, but they were brief visits. A couple of occasions to check it out, the rest to laugh at the awfulness of it.

I'd be extremely confident that the number of people who loyally watch TPV for extended periods is extremely small and that they're of a demographic which would not appeal to mainstream service providers or advertisers.

I wish David would do more videos just to hear him dig himself into another hole lol. Or maybe he's woke up in Richie's spare bedroom and his body has again told him 'no more'.

That reminds me, I was talking of Bill Ryan earlier and I remember him talking about David and how he spent such a long time travelling with David and that when David goes to bed at night he's in constant pain. Bill said you could hear him muttering and rolling around in pain in bed lol. Then he says only those close to David would get to see that side of David and realise just what this man goes through on a day to day basis for humanity. In some ways I feel sorry for poor Richie and his wife if that's what they listen to through the bedroom wall. Can you imagine the stories during cornflakes at breakfast? And that loud swallowing David does and the smacking his lips at the end of a sentance. Good grief.

Satellites x 2 = further delusions of grandeur
Running before they've even started walking (again)

Micklar wrote:
if you look at length on air - approx 90 days that averages 66,667 views a day across all platforms if 6million views since going on air - whether this includes facebook, twitter and the tpv subforum i have no idea - nor are we told if the numbers are consistent or have spikes everytime tpv shoot themselves in the foot. Furthermore we have no idea how many views each individual programme has or how many of those views are tpv themselves checking stuff has uploaded correctly.

I see they are now asking for national or international advertiser suggestions

gmp love or loathe or indifferent to makes an interesting and pertinent point when they say

Lunar Sea wrote:
Good grief. Edgemedia all over again.

Maybe he's talking about getting Sky TV in Richie's flat? Maybe one there and one for the studios lol.

I would probably differ from most people, as I believe it’s perfectly achievable for them to run a fully functioning Sky channel.

They reckon it costs about £50,000 per month at present. A bit of rudimentary research would suggest to me that it would cost roughly double that to run a Sky channel. Maybe less. But around £1 million per year, if you’re not trying to make a profit.

It should easily be achievable to generate this sort of income. There are tonnes of channels on Sky that probably cost more than that to run which are incredibly niche. But they still manage to attract advertisers. Maybe some of them are run as loss bearing enterprises by larger TV companies, but I still think it’s easily achievable to run an alternative news station and generate £1 million worth of income. Eurosport, which virtually no-one watches in the UK, generates £60 million per year just in Britain. Okay, they have a very strong demographic for advertisers, but aren’t people that would watch an alternative news station a pretty clear demographic too?

What you have to do from day one is sell aggressively. Maybe you can have one crowdfunding money raiser, but people are going to get pretty sick of that pretty quickly. You have to do everything you possibly can to attract advertisers. This can be done. You’re not going to get J.P. Morgan and McDonald’s, but you don’t want them anyway.

For me there is a massive, untapped audience of people who are dissatisfied with the existing socio-economic and political paradigm who have no voice. In that sense, an alternative news station is a good idea. There are millions of people who feel disenfranchised. If you made the station as inclusive as possible then I don’t see any reason you can’t attract some of these people. I’m just talking about everyday people who feel cheated economically, who don’t believe in the political system any longer, who can see that they’re fed a buffet of lies every day. This is a lot more people than you think.

They also have done an extremely bad job of using social media, which is very important, and can really generate a lot of interest if done well. I’m sure there are many ways they could cut running costs as well, I can think of a few. What they’ve done is effectively squander £500,000 and now after doing that they’re talking about maybe having a TV channel. This should have been the focus from day one because you cannot generate income with a website, or not enough to run a TV channel. You just cannot do it, it is fucking impossible, unless you’re an absolutely massive name.

I do think something such as this would be beneficial. It may have absolutely no impact on anything whatsoever. But if things continue the way they are now there are going to be some massive problems in the next few years. Most Europeans and North Americans have been essentially shielded from the way the world actually is for many decades. We’ve felt a little of it in the last few years given the insoluble economic problems that patently exist, which have had a knock on effect on mainland Europe in particular. Obviously we’re seeing food banks et al in Britain now. But most people’s problems are still pretty trivial in world terms, given that at least half of the world’s population lives in poverty that we can’t imagine. Things are going to come home to roost in the next couple of decades because this economic system simply doesn’t need us any more. And people are going to find that out the hard way. So it’d be better if they found out sooner rather than later. So I’m hopeful, but not expectant, that someone can do something of quality to achieve this. If people continue to sit in front of the BBC and suck up their take on things, there is going to be a shitstorm eventually.

True, all they need is some wonga adverts and other payday loans and they're sorted

Clips from the Wogan show get shown, cue David walking with a purpose.

David - That's what I came back from. They laughed at me. Now look at me! On the telly. The People's Voice. Be a part of it. Coom on! *waves fists*


Cash Lady advert airs.

I think you are completely right in your assessment wubs - there is room for an alternative news channel for sure one that could be profitable and self sustaining.

The following are where I think tpv have shown a huge lack of foresight...

They have called themselves the peoples voice without first asking what it is the 'people' wish to voice and how. There was an announcement that david was about to do something huge and game changing - which turned out to be tpv - personally I feel that it would have been far better to involve people from the beginning - ask them whether they want an alternative news channel and if so what medium that channel should use, what content they would like to see and instead of setting the bar unrealistically high start small with people not only invested in the idea financially but really feeling part of it because their wants and needs are being listened to and taken on board.

Communication since tpv was launched has been pitiful - responses to emails are either non existent or months late, responses on facebook are aggressive or promise everything whilst saying nothing. Perks were not delivered on time and the response to sonia poultons leaving left a very bad taste.

Arrogance - Icke has himself admitted that tpv is his last 'hurrah' his last attempt to 'wake people up' - from what I read, see and hear on a daily basis is that people do not want to be preached at by others in an ivory tower who appear hypocritical and have no real concept of what life is really like for the majority. They want instead to be listened to and heard. They also wish for a platform to not only discuss solutions but a way to actively pursue those solutions.

They want a way in which to hold those responsible for the economy and injustices to face the consequences and be held accountable not for mainstream media 'whores' to be trooped out and paid to say the same shite they do on this morning without being asked the difficult questions. Tpv thus far has not achieved this.

The people wish for a chance to get involved with a 'peoples voice' not watch as family icke secure programmes and off shoot businesses off the back of it.

They would like constructive criticisms to be addressed not dismissed as negativity and/or deleted and most of all they wish to be able to discuss it without fear of being banned or jumped on by 'team icke' for not towing the party line.

I have generalised quite a lot in the above so apologies - there are always exceptions

I cannot help but feel as if icke and adl have squandered not only the money given to them but a fuckload of goodwill and trust that people placed with them. It would have required minimal effort to actually include people in decision making processes and at a time when people are so very fed up of self righteous and self important politicians taking away more and more freedoms of choice from those they are supposed to represent tpv could have really offered something far more empowering and game changing than they have. I would like to see those at tpv who do have the decision making power take responsibility for those decisions - I would respect them a lot more were they to do so - but I am not holding my breath - icke absolves himself from any responsibility consistently and that is something that fucks me off no end.