... we are all complicit in the system until we take responsibility for our choices and either opt out or strive for change.

I've seen enough.

*adopts hoighty toighty judge voice for the second time this week*

Clearly, this impudent scallywag is of the clan, WUM and has been falsifying representations of his intent.

I can't be arsed to quote the evidence.
I can't be arsed to summon a jury of his peers.

Guilty of fourth division wummery.

I can't be arsed with pre sentence reports.

Young man, you will spend all eternity in Scaltura's pill bottle. Forever being swallowed, having your active compounds utilised, being shat out of his bumhole as a new pill and put back in the bottle.

Good Day.

Take him down.

Barnfish wrote:
Agreed and for now, you suggest some very wise courses of action. But considering the trajectory of further deregulation, the institutions you mention will be next.

Barnfish wrote:
G'day Barnfish.

I would appreciate if you clarify this for me ...

Are you stating that one form of slavery "is far better" than another form of slavery?

... Chains of gold are still chains.

simulacra wrote:

Isn't that what the banks just did bankrupting themselves & entire economies in the process?

Space Bandit wrote: To my knowledge there has never been unregulated, unlimited credit made available to the masses.
It would radically change many people's way of life, with the freedom to exercise your potential as a creator, instead of selling your labor power to an owner, people would begin to produce for their own requirements and needs and would no longer need access to cheap consumer gadgets.

Many people would love to experiment with social cooperatives and if they produced marketable commodities why is it not feasible for this to be achieved, it is only the monopolization of wealth and ownership that procludes this potentiality.

SilvaRizla wrote:
lol, I went for my lunch while I waited for someone to come to the realisation that trying to defend the monetary system was futile as it hinged on every single reason why the entire 'truth scene' ever happened in the first place.
Until people address the elephant in the living room then they'll never get anywhere with any of the numerous gripes they have with the 'elite' or whatever they want to call it.
SB's topic is not just about money or work because we no longer technically have money or work, not in the way they used to be defined.
You must first define the parameters of the present system and accept what is wrong with it as is and then propose solutions to it before you can claim any high horse to whine about alternative systems.
Absolutely no-one who supports the present system seems to be aware that there are people who have the ability to create money out of thin air and by doing so inflate the money supply and thereby reduce the value of the money, they're not even aware that the cunts charge interest to 'loan' the money they have out of thin air, like it takes some kind of monumental special effort that only these special guys can do.
Until you are capable of explaining how that is a good system then please don't even try and say how work is a good thing because the reward is those very same fraud tokens. Fraud is slavery.
Until the day that you get paid in land and resources with eminent domain removed from complete title contract then you will remain a slave forever and your children and your childrens children until the end of time.
Is it serious and on topic? Urrr durhh yeah I'd fucking say so...

not to mention storecards, credit cards, equity loans, car loans, evil places like brighthouse, personal loans, student loans, pay day loans, all designed to seduce people into spending their future earnings, so we consume more rather then saving for 'big ticket' items. Then those debts are bought and sold and speculated on in order to create more 'wealth'.

What is worse is that cheap credit is sold to the masses as being an equalizer but it isn't - the wealthy can afford to purchase things without credit whilst the poor can't and in the case of technology so much of it is now deemed essential to modern living you are at a disadvantage if you wish to participate within the system but cannot afford it. Computers and internet access for example, a car or mobile phone. Add to that it is increasingly more difficult to live without some form of bank account.

makes me so cross.