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No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 08 Jan 2017 23:28 #701

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Money is structural violence.
Structural violence is a term commonly ascribed to Johan Galtung, which he introduced in the article "Violence, Peace, and Peace Research" (1969).[1] It refers to a form of violence wherein some social structure or social institution may harm people by preventing them from meeting their basic needs. Institutionalized adultism, ageism, classism, elitism, ethnocentrism, nationalism, speciesism, racism, and sexism are some examples of structural violence as proposed by Galtung.[citation needed] According to Galtung, rather than conveying a physical image, structural violence is an "avoidable impairment of fundamental human needs".[2] As it is avoidable, structural violence is a high cause of premature death and unnecessary disability. Because structural violence affects people differently in various social structures, it is very closely linked to social injustice.[3] Structural violence and direct violence are said to be highly interdependent, including family violence, gender violence, hate crimes, racial violence, police violence, state violence, terrorism, and war.[4]

In his book Violence: Reflections on a National Epidemic, James Gilligan defines structural violence as "the increased rates of death and disability suffered by those who occupy the bottom rungs of society, as contrasted with the relatively lower death rates experienced by those who are above them." Gilligan largely describes these "excess deaths" as "non-natural" and attributes them to the stress, shame, discrimination, and denigration that results from lower status. He draws on Sennett and Cobb, who examine the "contest for dignity" in a context of dramatic inequality.[citation needed]

Bandy X Lee wrote in her article Causes and cures VII: Structural violence, "It refers to the avoidable limitations society places on groups of people that constrain them from achieving the quality of life that would have otherwise been possible. These limitations could be political, economic, religious, cultural, or legal in nature and usually originate in institutions that have authority over particular subjects."[5] She goes on to say that it "directly illustrates a power system wherein social structures or institutions cause harm to people in a way that results in maldevelopment or deprivation."[5] Rather than the term being called social injustice or oppression, there is an advocacy for it to be called violence because this phenomena comes from, and can be corrected by human decisions, rather than just natural causes.[5]


Cause and effects[edit]
In The Sources of Social Power, Michael Mann makes the argument that within state formation, "increased organizational power is a trade-off, whereby the individual obtains more security and food in exchange for his or her freedom."[6] Siniša Malešević elaborates on Mann's argument by saying, "Mann's point needs extending to cover all social organizations, not just the state. The early chiefdoms were not states, obviously; still, they were established on a similar basis—an inversely proportional relationship between security and resources, on the one hand, and liberty, on the other."[6] This means that although those who live in organized, centralized social systems are not likely subject to hunger or to die in an animal attack, they are likely to engage in organized violence, which could include war. These structures make for opportunities and advances that humans could not create for themselves, including the development of agriculture, technology, philosophy, science, and art; however, these structures take tolls elsewhere, meaning that these structures are both productive and detrimental. In our early history, hunter-gather groups used organizational power to acquire more resources and produce more food, but at the same time, this power was also used to dominate, kill, and enslave other groups in order to expand territory and supplies.[6]

Although structural violence is said to be invisible, it has a number of influences which shape it. These include identifiable institutions, relationships, force fields, and ideologies, including discriminatory laws, gender inequality, and racism.[7] Moreover, this does not only exist for those of the lower class, although the effects are much heavier on them, including the highest rate of disease and death, unemployment, homelessness, lack of education, powerlessness, and shared fate of miseries. The whole social order is effected by social power, but these other groups have much more indirect effects on them, with the acts generally being less violent.[7]

Due to the social and economic structure in place today, specifically the division into rich and poor, powerful and weak, and superior and inferior, the death rate is between 10 to 20 million per year, which is about ten times the death rates from suicide, homicide, and warfare combined.[5]

Cultural violence[edit]
"Cultural violence" refers to aspects of a culture that can be used to justify or legitimize direct or structural violence, and may be exemplified by religion and ideology, language and art, empirical science and formal science.[8]

Cultural violence makes direct and structural violence look or feel "right", or at least not wrong, according to Galtung.[9] The study of cultural violence highlights the ways the act of direct violence and the fact of structural violence are legitimized and thus made acceptable in society. One mechanism of cultural violence is to change the "moral color" of an act from "red/wrong" to "green/right", or at least to "yellow/acceptable".[10]

International scope[edit]
See also: Structural violence in Haiti
Petra Kelly wrote in her first book, Fighting for Hope (1984):

A third of the 2 Billion people in the developing countries are starving or suffering from malnutrition. Twenty-five per cent of their children die before their fifth birthday […] Less than 10 per cent of the 15 million children who died this year had been vaccinated against the six most common and dangerous children's diseases. Vaccination costs £3 per child. But not doing so costs us five million lives a year. These are classic examples of structural violence.

The violence in structural violence is attributed to the specific organizations of society that injure or harm individuals or masses of individuals. In explaining his point of view on how structural violence affects the health of subaltern or marginalized people, medical anthropologist Paul Farmer writes:

Their sickness is a result of structural violence: neither culture nor pure individual will is at fault; rather, historically given (and often economically driven) processes and forces conspire to constrain individual agency. Structural violence is visited upon all those whose social status denies them access to the fruits of scientific and social progress.

This perspective has been continually discussed by Paul Farmer, as well as by Philippe Bourgois and Nancy Scheper-Hughes.

Theorists argue that structural violence is embedded in the current world system; this form of violence, which is centered on apparently inequitable social arrangements, is not inevitable. Ending the global problem of structural violence will require actions that may seem unfeasible in the short term. To some,[who?] this indicates that it may be easier to devote resources to minimizing the harmful impacts of structural violence. Others, such as futurist Wendell Bell, see a need for long-term vision to guide projects for social justice. Many structural violences, such as racism and sexism, have become such a common occurrence in society that they appear almost invisible. Despite this fact, sexism and racism have been the focus of intense cultural and political resistance for many decades. Significant reform has been accomplished, though the project remains incomplete.[citation needed]

Access to health care[edit]
Structural violence affects the availability of health care in the sense that physicians often need to pay attention to broad social forces (racism, gender inequality, classism, etc.) to determine who falls ill and who will be given access to care. It is more likely for structural violence to occur in areas where biosocial methods are neglected in a country's health care system. Since structurally violent situations are viewed primarily as biological consequences, it neglects environmentally stimulated problems, such as negative social behaviours or inequality prominence. If biosocial understandings are forsaken when considering communicable diseases such as HIV, for example, prevention methods and treatment practices become inadequate and unsustainable for populations. However, the challenge is obvious: many countries cannot afford to stop the harmful cycle of structural violence.[3] Paul Farmer argues that the major flaw in the dominant model of medical care is that medical services are sold as a commodity, remaining only available to those who can afford them.[3] The concept of structural violence is used to show how medical professionals are not trained to understand the social forces behind disease, nor are they trained to deal with or alter them. Medical professionals have to ignore the social determinants that alter access to care, and as a result, medical interventions are significantly less effective in low-income countries.[3] Structural violence is an issue not only in developing countries, but also in North America. For example, it has had a significant impact on diagnosis and treatment of AIDS in the United States. A 1990 study by Moore et al. found that blacks had a significantly lesser chance of receiving treatment than whites.[3] Findings from another study suggest that the increased rate of workplace injury among undocumented Latino immigrants in the United States can be understood as an example of structural violence.[11] Structural violence is the result of policy and social structures, and change can only be a product of altering the processes that encourage structural violence in the first place. Paul Farmer claims that "structural interventions" are one possible solution.

Countries such as Haiti and Rwanda have implemented these interventions with positive outcomes. Examples include prohibiting the commodification of the citizen needs, such as health care, ensuring equitable access to effective therapies, and developing social safety nets. These initiatives increase citizen's social and economic rights, thus decreasing structural violence. However, for these structural interventions to be successful, medical professionals need to be capable of executing such tasks. Unfortunately, many of these professionals are not trained to perform structural interventions.[3] Moreover, medical professionals continue to operate under conventional clinical intervention because physicians can rightly note that structural interventions are not their job. Therefore, the onus falls more on political and other experts to implement such structural changes. As noted, structural forces account for most if not all epidemic diseases (e.g., HIV). Medical professionals still continue to operate under the downstream phenomenon, with a focus is on individual lifestyle factors rather than general socio-economic, cultural, and environmental conditions. This paradigm obscures the structural impediments to changes because it tends to avoid the root causes that should be focused on. One response is to incorporate medical professionals and to acknowledge that such active structural interventions are necessary to address real public health issues.[3]

The lessons that have been learned from successful examples of structural interventions in these countries are fundamental. Although health disparities resulting from social inequalities are possible to reduce, as long as health care is exchanged as a commodity, those without the power to purchase it will have less access to it. Biosocial research should be the main focus. Sociology can better explain the origin and spread of infectious diseases, such as HIV or AIDS. Research shows that the risk of HIV is highly affected by one's behavior and habits.[3] Although some structural interventions can decrease premature morbidity and mortality, the social and historical determinants of the structural violence cannot be omitted. Although the interventions have enormous influence on economical and political aspects of international bodies, more interventions are needed to improve access.[3]

Structural violence also exists in the area of mental health, where systems are designed to ignore the lived experiences of people with mental illnesses when making decisions about services and funding without consulting with the ill, including those who are illiterate, cannot access computers, do not speak the dominant language, are homeless, are too unwell to fill out long formal surveys, or are in locked psychiatric and forensic wards. Online-only consultation may be inappropriate for people with a lived experience of mental illness. Structural violence is also apparent when consumers in developed countries die from preventable diseases 15–25 years earlier than do people without a lived experience of mental health

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No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 09 Jan 2017 01:03 #702

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I like working too but only if it's under my terms and for the most part, alone.

There are no exceptions to this rule unfortunately - tried and tested :emb: :P
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No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 09 Jan 2017 13:06 #703

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Me too, our sketts. :)
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No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 09 Jan 2017 13:16 #704

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...if you took the money out of it and the rent and stuff were free to everyone, I'd still feel the same. I'd still be up for going out to do work for people and the community

Totally this.

I would love to live in a community where everyone worked towards a common goal, and where food and rent weren't issues of survival. A tree-house community would be amazing.
But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma,
a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
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psketti wrote:
I like working too but only if it's under my terms and for the most part, alone.

There are no exceptions to this rule unfortunately - tried and tested :emb: :P

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No-one should ever work! Fuck work! 10 Jan 2017 10:43 #706

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Totally this.

I would love to live in a community where everyone worked towards a common goal, and where food and rent weren't issues of survival. A tree-house community would be amazing.
That would be awesome. I would tend to be like sketts and say that I don't like working with people, but I think the reality is that I don't like working with people in a hierarchical system because it just brings out the worst in people. Every time I've been in any workplace, it has always been the same. And I wouldn't say I'm hugely experienced in work, being quite idle, but I've worked in offices, call centres, on the land and in a workshop / garage (I know it's difficult to imagine what I could have contributed that would have been of any use in that environment!) and in every single one people ended up sniping at each other, backstabbing and resenting every perceived advantage that other people apparently had.

I did one job where it was a completely new office and everyone working there had been recruited from other organisations. So there was no baggage, we were starting from scratch. And I remember going on the training course at the start, and we had a really good laugh. I, naively, thought that maybe I would slightly enjoy this job.

Within 18 months, everyone hated each other. So I quit.
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I like working too but only if it's under my terms and for the most part, alone.

There are no exceptions to this rule unfortunately - tried and tested :emb: :P

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I don't know if I should be happy or not.... I was just offered a part time job at the county, outside work, cutting down trees, fixing things in parks, cleaning sides of roads etc. Its a total dead end job to be honest, but it would certainly feel nice to get actual pay for actual work. And its only six hours a day. I have an interview on monday about it. I hope its temporary contract or something I can end easily without getting in trouble with it as I might be moving to Helsinki at some point.

Anyway, I'm not thrilled by this "opportunity" much. On the other hand, I do like to work outside, I do like physical labor and finding a job, any job at this time is a small miracle in itself. There's nearly half a million unemployed and about 15k open jobs in Finland so.

Lucky me I guess.
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That doesn't sound too bad really.

If you're not working at the moment, then it will at least help to motivate you into finding something more suitable. Plus, it is generally a lot easier to find another job if you're already in employment. As well, if you've got high energy levels like myself (which I'm assuming you have through watching your drumming vids) then it will help a lot with feelings of agitation and restlessness, and just general all round mental calmness.

Go for it I say.
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I don't know if I should be happy or not.... I was just offered a part time job at the county, outside work, cutting down trees, fixing things in parks, cleaning sides of roads etc. Its a total dead end job to be honest, but it would certainly feel nice to get actual pay for actual work. And its only six hours a day. I have an interview on monday about it. I hope its temporary contract or something I can end easily without getting in trouble with it as I might be moving to Helsinki at some point.

Anyway, I'm not thrilled by this "opportunity" much. On the other hand, I do like to work outside, I do like physical labor and finding a job, any job at this time is a small miracle in itself. There's nearly half a million unemployed and about 15k open jobs in Finland so.

Lucky me I guess.

That's the best part about it though not so much in this weather :D ...still beats being stuck in some stuffy building with no open windows though!

And given the current job climate for an awful lot of people, it's better than nowt and as MP said it keeps you out of trouble :P :D
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mild_peril wrote:
.... then it will help a lot with feelings of agitation and restlessness, and just general all round mental


You were past help with that one a longtime ago :coffee:
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It may be a dead end job, hex but so is brain surgery. Though both jobs are valuable to individuals and the community :)
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Well... "nobody" has work these days so anything pretty much goes. What I'm worried about the most is does it pay enough to make it worth my time. The problem is that low paying jobs are equal or worse compared on being on benefits. The problem is not the social welfare system which is quite generous in Finland, the problem is that menial jobs are underpaid these days. Partially because living costs are astronomical.

Anyway, if I'll be getting over 1k€/month after taxes, I say its worth it. And besides, work is work, being so called unemployed equals being a lite version slave for somebody which I think is unacceptable and does not belong to a civilized country like ours should be. I definitely want to get out of that system.

I'm dreaming about getting into state of financial independence, some sort of self employment... I'm just not sure how to make that happen. I know being my own boss and working when I want, as much as want would be the best solution for me. I'm terrible at waking up real early and some crazy idiot thinks finns are all morning people.(Many are.) Secondly I would want to get into a situation in which nobody can fire me and I'm suddenly without income. I hate to be dependent on the system and other people, I just don't know how to get forward with it.
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I just came home from my first day in my new job... Its nothing spectacular, but definitely better than slaving away for free in one of the workshops. The pay isn't all that good, but at least its only six hours a day and we don't have anything to hurry about. Today we cleaned bus stops from snow and ice, tomorrow we go chop down some trees. I'm fine with that, at least when the weather is as awesome as today. Guys who've been there longer told me that its easy as pie, nothing to hurry about, but some times physically quite demanding, no problem with that one... I wont need to lift weights as much.

This is definitely better than being unemployed and at least it keeps the work authorities off my back for six months. And we got very good clothes to use too. The people I work with seem to be quite nice too and our boss is very professional and he's giving a good vibe. Most "boss" type of people I have had to deal with have been total assholes, not this guy... Usually I get a quick hunch about asshats I can't come along with and nobody gave that off yet so its pretty good start I guess.

Btw, I hate to wake up five in the morning.
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At least nobody can blame me for being lazy, work avoiding leech any more.... That's what an unemployed is here. In a country with 350k unemployed and 15k open jobs. A lazy, work avoiding leech who's sucking our elite out of their cash. Well, at least if you listen to media and some prominent political figures.... :roll:

Smell the irony.
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Yes, because the "elite" don't suck anyone out of their cash, Hex. Oh, no. Never. They earn their pay fair and square.... :roll:

Good luck with this job! I hope it leads to something much better for you. :)
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At least its leading to burning muscles. I was a lumberjack today. I hope that's it for now. We had to carry anything from little sticks to huge logs of wood out of the forest by hand. From the kind of places where you can't go with any machines and there's plenty of that in Finland. Its tough work, ok if the weather is fine. Of course in the morning it was very windy which made the air feel freezing. And I'm pretty much exhausted. I don't think I would have needed to work that much as I really pushed it and carried some goddamn heavy logs around, I just thought to try how it feels like, its been a long time since I've done that kind of stuff. The pay just wouldn't justify working my ass off, but at least its good exercise.

This is definitely better than being unemployed, but if I could choose, I'd be self employed instead.
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Yes, because the "elite" don't suck anyone out of their cash, Hex. Oh, no. Never. They earn their pay fair and square.... :roll:

Good luck with this job! I hope it leads to something much better for you. :)

Ditto about those fuckers! Heh, good thing I guess that I'm underpaid and on temporary contract, from my pay those fucktards are stealing only 3%. :roll:
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:D Wait until you're earning BILLIONS in royalties, Hex - they'll take......


....ummm, nothing from you! They'll introduce you to their accountants, who will work it so that not only are you due to pay 0% tax; but your earnings have left you so short of what you need to get along that you are entitled to one or several government grants to help you make ends meet.

Then they'll ask if you want to buy the Prime Minister-ship of your country!

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ETA: And don't worry that your political views are exactly opposite theirs Hex. They'll work it for themselves somehow. After all, they've been doing that for the longest time already. :D
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What the fuck is it with employment agencies and there red tape fiasco, I missed out on a job because of these incompetent clowns, all they wanted was references, but no, not everyone sits around a phone all day, and this arse clown will only ring people in there/her own work hrs, ffs, two words fucking bitch comes to mind,

oh and she found an error on my CV

whoopie first world problems

now i found a course I can do, get my class 2 licence up to dangerous goods, for free this usually costs up to $3000 plus and its free, again but no, our local Government Charity Centre humms and hars,oh you can't do that, the cost and the third degree more douche bags you could shake a stick at

I fucking give up :mad:
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