Often, when I'm out and about, walking the streets, going to the shops, the city centre, I feel an emptiness. It's like a sad feeling as well, it's a bit hard to explain really.
I look at the rows and rows of houses, all the cars going up and down the roads, all the people, and it seems like a whole lot of nothing. It's all the same, and it's mostly depressing.
I went to sign on yesterday, and the only time I felt okay was when I saw some trees on the golf course as I walked past.
I think we need more nature around us...well I need more nature around me.
There used to be much more greenery around. My road when we first moved in had lots of privets and cherry blossom trees. Now it's pebble dashing, red brick walls and wrought iron.
I don't know...maybe it's me who's empty.

Does anyone else feel the emptiness? Shopping centres and the likes are the worst. They just feel so cold and meaningless.

I hope you know what I'm banging on about

irrepressible wrote:
Your not banging on, You have a enlightened mind, which helps your travels in life and natural sensitivity,and the ability to read between the lines of life, this in your core nature will only become a greater for you and will show you the way that will be best for you,and make you happy within yourself no matter what outside influences effect a situation.

But people who have this awareness fight through many battles, and have to realize they will, and not let people ,places,and things beat them down, or let the callous people win and ruin your potential for this inner peace...

Thanks Rick

I don't really feel enlightened I'm struggling to make sense of it all most of the time.
It's a battle all right. I've been struggling with it all for years now. When I put down the distractions, games, movies, music, etc. That's when I feel this emptiness thing most, and it's most accute when I'm walking the streets. I need something real and fulfilling in my life, something I'm passionate about, something that feeds my heart and soul. I hate this empty feeling. It feels like loss, grief.
We all need it I think. I mean we need something real.

The mass of humanity is going down the wrong road, we're getting it so wrong it's scary. Get up. Go to work. Come home. Buy stuff. Get up. Go to work. Come home. Buy stuff. Repeat for around 45 years. The stuff we buy is just the distraction kind of thing. I don't know...is this it? This is living? I can't be like that.

I've got a huge headache, so I hope I'm making some sense

We're getting it all so wrong. Well most of us are anyway.

I know what your are talking about, too, irre. I grew up in California but was in northern Arizona for the last 17 years and now I am back in California and it is depressing. I think that people who live here get used to it and don't see it that way, but I bet it effects them just the same.

I miss so much about Arizona. The starry skies and wide open spaces, the mountains and high desert, the quiet.

Here, where I am now in California, was pretty once, but now it is concrete and shopping malls, and houses that were built in a hurry, merely for profit. The sky is always white and you can forget about the stars. I'm sure that many here have forgotten about them.

There is really no connection at all to nature, unless you can have a garden, and that would be it.

Another thing that I miss about Arizona is the wildlife. I am really not a people person much these days and wish that I had a self sufficient cabin in the middle of nowhere.

I know exactly what you mean! I've felt that way for so many years. I remember when I was in my early twenties working in Downtown Atlanta(miserable fucking place) was probably when it first occurred to me. I grew up in an area that was transitioning from country to suburbs, so I was always around nature growing up. Thanks to the world of "entertainment", the city seemed so alluring.

Anyway, I realized, working Downtown, that maybe all the concrete and metal smothers Mother Nature, blocking the positive energy from mankind. There are other parts of Atlanta that have a lot of trees lining the streets, parks and whatnot...but it is still the city. Bars, shops, cars, noise pollution, air pollution, advertisements, distractions....

Before I moved back to my hometown I was so miserable. There is practically nothing to do in the city that doesn't require money. So, I spent very little time in nature. Working, sleeping, vegging out in front of the t.v.- and when I felt like "getting out", it would just be to go get a coffee at the bookstore. I remember driving through shitty, city traffic and the song Baker's Street came on. I think it's actually about a gay man's struggles(read that somewhere) but the lyrics have stuck with me ever since.

This city desert makes you feel so cold
It's got so many people but it's got no soul
And it's taken you so long to find out you were wrong
When you thought it held everything

Around 30, I had a nervous breakdown and moved back home to my parents house. A few years later, I was fortunate enough to move into a house in the woods. I was actually almost devastated by the fact that I wouldn't have cable! I thought, "I'll be so bored, all alone with nothing to watch!" Best thing that ever happened to me! I found serenity! Suddenly I was reconnected to what I had loved my whole life! Trees, birds, insects, water, dirt! I love it all! I believe it could be the answer to severe depression.

Actually, I believe that my immersion in nature was a sort of detox. Synchronicities became more frequent and curious; ultimately leading me to what the conspiracy movement likes to call "awakening". I do not claim to be "enlightened" by any means but I had a "Tower" moment(if you are familiar with tarot; if not:https://www.tarotteachings.com/tower-tarot-card-meanings.html).

Oops, kinda started to ramble! I tend to do that sometimes...

Anyway, Irre, get as much nature time as possible! It's good for what ails you(as my Gramps would say )!

Ok, well i feel even more lost than you, i think. dunno, keep forgetting Capital letters. yikes.

A tv show i saw the other day crapped on about the % of people in the world. It said.. 55% asian, 25% africa, 15% europe, 5% north america , i cant even add that up, am i 5% up or down ... anyways, i didnt see them even mention aussie or nz, maybe we are classed in with europe , ( cw)
Most of the developing countries have a diff life . I dunno. It is too hard. I forgot my point.

One thing i did notice is all the africans have beautiful white teeth, really healthy and white, probly cos they dont eat our shite food. I am so wish i had those lovely healthy teeth and smiles.

If you feel lost, go on a google walk around the world. Just pick anywhere... you can walk up and down a street anywhere in the world... it is pretty amazing,... i have been to many places... stop walking around your own sad place and check out the world.

As Homer Simpson says. 'Haven't You been there yet? "

Try it... you might like it ! Just for a change..

Thanks noseymutegirl

The way you describe California, is exactly how it is here in Liverpool. Concrete and shopping centres. A Tesco almost on every corner. The sky is white a lot of the time too. The roof as I call it. I say to myself "they've put the roof on again".

We're disconnecting from nature. We're disconnecting from the Universe. We're disconnecting from each other.

I'd love to see the stars. On the rare occasion we do get a clear night here, there's only a small handfull. Human beings are part of nature. The road we're allowing ourselves to be led down is one of limitation and complete disconnection from who we are. It's like the evil filth we allow to run the world are turning the Earth into a tiny little box. A little prison. I feel caged. The whole white sky in my opinion is a form of sensory depravation. The same with the lack of nature around us. We are natural, we need to live in a natural environment.

irrepressible wrote:
Man, do I ever relate! I decided against "stuff" as well! I can't afford "stuff" anyway! Maybe a little "good stuff" here & there!

Thanks K-Bone

I truly believe that cities are nothing but Prisons on a huge scale. We're all incarcerated here, lifers. We work for our priviliges, we get a couple of "free" days each week to spend our slave payment. Most of us think we're free

Those lyrics strike a chord. Whoever wrote them is spot on.

I'm glad you got your house in the woods It sounds beautiful. As does noseymutegirl's description of Arizona. I'm feeling more serene just visualising it. The mountains, the stars, the open spaces. Trees, animals and insects...just hearing about it is making me feel better

curtaincat, are you saying that irre should take a virtual walk on the internet?

Has it really come to this?

Well, I am sooo glad for you, irrespressible, because just thinking about it is making me feel worse.




just kidding... I'm okay... sort of.

Thanks curtaincat

The ultimate virtual walking is video games. Especially somthing like Oblivion, or Skyrim. In these games we're given a virtual natural world to walk around at our leisure. I used to spend hours walking through the forest watching deer and looking at the flowers and picking herbs to make potions with
None of it is real though. I need to get out there for real. I need to breathe the air of the natural places in the world.

noseymutegirl wrote:


I have Arizonan DNA y'know

My mum's biological father was a G.I. from Tucson apparently.

One day, I hope to get to see Arizona and the Grand Canyon, etc.

irrepressible wrote:
Totally agree. I was just walking back to the office from grabbing treats for my dog...people are so fucked up nowadays, they can't take a friendly smile, a compliment, good spirit of any kind! WTF? I constantly smile and try to be pleasant toward strangers and I often either get nothing back(blank look or looks away) or I get these weird, almost offended looks. What gives? When I smile(and I know this to be true), it is a full on genuine smile that starts with my mouth and lights up my eyes(that's why I have "crow's feet" ). It's not some car sales man, fake shit. I compliment people because if I'm thinking something nice about someone, I figure they might like to hear those positive thoughts. However, I've gotten so many dirty looks and, yes, even eye rolls , after complimenting a stranger that I hesitate to compliment anyone, anymore! And I also find that when I am a customer, I am usually the one giving the cashier(server, what have you) great customer service and they are less than thrilled by presence. People look at me like I'm bonkers.

Fucking backwards society!

irrepressible wrote:
yes, the similarities are endless.

irrepressible wrote:
Me, too! Come on, y'all! We can meet at my place , pop some Devo in, and do a road trip! WooHoo!

Don't ever smile at anyone because they will think you want something and if you compliment them..... well, they will just look at you like you want to have sex with them.

irrepressible wrote:
Yeah, not only is it fake, but it's on a monitor. You need to be immersed in real nature!

noseymutegirl wrote:
Lol! I guess that's why the ladies look at me particularly strange!

Space Bandit wrote:
You know what I mean. Unless you don't feel the great emptiness that is

Shops. Houses. People. Cars. The world over. It's all becoming uniform.