It's to stop the suns rays re-writing our DNA.........

, ok David

So, the black lines? Any ideas wtf causes them anyone? F'd if I have any thoughts that aren't well whacky.

Have to admit, this page is pretty 'convincing' although I remain unconvinced.
contrailscience.com/contrails-dark-lines-chemtrails/
The one I showed for instance. That line extended perfectly to and beyond the horizon. Even when twisting my noggin in 3d with various sun positions that weren't there that day, I can not see how that was a shadow.

knobmeup wrote:
Last time I brought it up online I was told in no uncertain terms that it was simply the shadow of the plane, dependent on the position of the earth to the sun etc. etc. etc...

Blah-fuckity-blah-blah.

Ab Origine wrote:
The shadow of the contrail, they can be quite big actually. They're called edge or volumetric shadow.
They won't last long because the angle of light has to be right.

That still doesn't explain the dark blob in dubs earlier pic which is deffo v weird.

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the dark blob is a spot i painted in to show roughly where the plane was. Please excuse me, I did mention the painted blob in the earlier thread but forgot to in this one. Thought it was kind of obvious tbh

I don't believe what I have seen to actually be the shadow of the contrail to be honest. It's as if the plane itself is on a track and the line stretches out from the front and the rear for as far as the eye can see.

Very creepy stuff. I saw it for myself then came and YT'd it and seems many others have spotted it too.

That's the thing Abs. I get the shadow ting, I really do. But.....I can see no way a shadow of a trail that only goes across half the visible sky can cast a shadow extending to the horizon and beyond, without deviation. No matter where the sun is.

You know those automatic pencils, if you keep clicking you get a long bit sticking out ?

The one I saw had one of those ahead of it, and perfectly straight as that pencil too.

knobmeup wrote:
You have to think in 3 dimensions

The position of the observer is just as important as the light ofc

me wrote:

I've just finished watching What in the world are they spraying?

1: I'm going to attempt to be as genuinely honest and objective as I can.
2: I have a splitting headache so it's possible I might miss some things or recall them inaccurately.


I believe the presenter guy believes in what he's doing.
My heart sank when I saw G. Edward Griffin was involved. He seems to be the CT community's go-to guy.
I reckon he's a charlatan and I'm not alone in that belief.
He begins to qualify himself on the topic because he used to live nearby LA airport.
I have lived some 30yrs near Edinburgh airport and I certainly don't feel the urge to take the podium on any aspect of flight engineering.

The rest of the presentation was a proper masterclass in establishing a hint of a feasible issue and then destroying it by shovelling in mergellons, HAARP, global genocide, monsanto seed plots .....
Make sure you throw in a generous handful of off-the-grid hippies and use the tired tactic of attempting to interview Congressmen and Senators as they rush along corridors from one meeting to the next and then claim they were running from you and were frightened to discuss the issue.

I have no love for these 'representatives' but puuleeze sack that shit. It's embarrassing.

I went in open-minded.
My interest was piqued by the talk of heavy metal levels recorded in mountain snow at as much as 160,000 units above safe limits.
So go take and test more samples from that source and have them blind tested by a lab.
If the levels are accurate, inform the appropriate agency asking them to investigate and remedy the situation.
Let a local news paper or station know what's happening in order to keep the agency focussed.

If you suspect that Monsanto is engineering seed to overcome aluminium concentrates in the soil, approach them for literature on the seed.
Pretend you're interested in buying some if required.

If you suspect that soil is being contaminated by heavy metals and it's PH balance is being thrown out of whack.
As with the snow situ... Take samples, have them blind tested along with other soil samples and act accordingly when the results come back.

If you believe that there is a methodology and routine attached to these spraying cycles, record the events. Dates, times, formations etc (have other people do this too but as independently of each other as possible, have someone else collate these records).
You may also wish to take soil/water/leaf samples after each event as well. (same methodology as above).

Science pretty much takes the view that eye-witness testimony don't count for shit. Testable commodities and checkable data patterns are gold though.

If that can be built up to national and international database resources then you have the means to fight it.
If you can't build that ...................... maybe there's nothing to fight but hype.

By the end of the documentary I was back to being sceptical.
Basic science and fact-checking just isn't being pursued imo.


You may proceed to stomp on my kneecaps.

knobmeup wrote:
Sigh...



2 different time periods and the shadow fades

And here we see the black line extending from just the one contrail, the one which ofc intersects the sun, so what you are seeing is the shadow edge on projected towards the observer.
All pretty well documented stuff.

Double

Is the line in the pic from the site I linked to going over the horizon Andy?
EDIT, and is the sun visible, intersecting the line in my pic as in your last post?
And you seem to have gone from this in post 36 "As for the black line thing, I'm not sure what you mean there so no idea, soz." to now being conversant and knowledgeable on the subject 5 minutes on the dubious site I linked to is it?


Feather, I have to say I am inclined to agree with you. The film is rather bereft of substance in my view.

I just found this and admit I will NOT be raking through it tonight but if there's any other saddo's out there ..... (Like, each and every one of you for example), feel free.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-monsantos-aluminum-resistant-gmos-and-chemtrails.341/

Haha, the same guy
Mr contrailscience.com, I aint paid honest, I'm just a guy, a guy with a huge amount of time to build maintain and contribute to a site....

I find him as bereft as the film on the flip side of the 'argument'. Equally, he reeks of shill.

knobmeup wrote:
You can't see over the horizon, I'm surprised you even ask or propose such a thing.
The sun does not have to be visible in your pic, merely illuminating the trail towards the observer for an edge on shadow is all.
In my pic above for example if the camera is move slightly to the right the sun would disappear and you wouldn't see it in the pic....does that then infer the light is not there?
Its the bear shit in the woods dilemma lol.

Lol@dubs.
I just glanced it, saw it had a few pages to the thread and thought "naw, fuck that tonight"

Anyhoo .... problem solved ..


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knobmeup wrote:
I would ask this...what if chemicals could be sprayed without us knowing or being able to view them for real and instead the contrail conspiracy was started to be able to debunk and then make people look daft for asking by association?

Its a known tactic...

I can't believe you just called Jane and Dubs daft right infront of their startled shocked faces and got away with it andy.