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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 20:15 #301

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Plus loads of conflicting news reports regarding the shootings, and a threat from authorities that people posting inaccurate information about it will be arrested. :mad:
Is gossiping against the law now?

Incidentally, this occurred today:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20746973
Arrests after man shot during street fight in west Ealing

Four men have been arrested after a man was shot during a fight in west London.

Another man was taken to hospital after the incident in a West Ealing street. Both are in hospital but are not thought to have life-threatening injuries.

The Metropolitan Police said officers had been called to Uxbridge Road at about 01:35 GMT.

A spokesman said four men had been arrested in connection with the incident and remain in custody.
The only reason this is getting national news prominence is because of the Connecticut incident. This sort of thing happens all the time, people used to get shot and killed all the time when I lived in Manchester. I assume they still do, I just don't see the Manchester Evening News headlines any more. Despite our stringent 'gun control'.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 20:18 #302

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Ind. man with 47 guns arrested after school threat

Von I. Meyer allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire before saying he would 'kill as many people as he could' at a nearby elementary school.

CEDAR LAKE, Ind. — A northern Indiana man who allegedly threatened to "kill as many people as he could" at an elementary school near his home was arrested by officers who later found 47 guns and ammunition hidden throughout his home.

Von. I. Meyer, 60, of Cedar Lake, was arrested Saturday after prosecutors filed formal charges of felony intimidation, domestic battery and resisting law enforcement against him. He was being held Sunday without bond at the Lake County Jail, pending an initial hearing on the charges, police said in a statement.

Cedar Lake Police officers were called to Meyer's home early Friday after he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire once she fell asleep, the statement said.

Meyer also threatened to enter nearby Jane Ball Elementary School "and kill as many people as he could before police could stop him," the statement said. Meyer's home is less than 1,000 feet from the school and linked to it by trails and paths through a wooded area, police said.

Police said in the statement that they notified school officials and boosted security at all area schools Friday — the same day 26 people, including 20 students, were shot and killed at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.

On Saturday, officers served warrants at Meyer's home and arrested him. The statement said police had learned that Meyer kept many weapons in his older, two-story home and "is a known member of the Invaders Motorcycle Gang."

Officers searched the home, finding 47 guns and ammunition worth more than $100,000 hidden throughout the home. Many of the weapons were collector's guns.

Cedar Lake is about 45 miles southeast of Chicago.

A dispatcher with Cedar Lake Police said that the police chief was not available for interviews until Monday.

Lake County police spokeswoman Patti Van Til said Sunday that a SWAT team from the department assisted in serving Saturday's warrants.


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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 20:49 #303

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what happened to the 2nd guy they pulled out of the woods

Bats, I'm not sure if there's something fishy about that 2nd shooter aspect of things tbh.

I just tried to research it, and the most I could find was that (similar to the James Holmes case where 2 shooters became 1) there were police radio reports at the beginning, saying they (the cops) were closing in on 2 armed suspects wearing camouflage pants.

One of them escaped into the woods. Other reports don't say Adam was wearing camo pants btw. Just as some assertions have been made that Adam shot himself, but at the outset, the police supposedly announced that it was unclear whether he'd taken his own life.

They brought a suspect out of the woods in cuffs, and he apparently walked amongst the crowd of parents, saying that it wasn't him who'd been shooting.

He was detained, sitting with the police outside the school, and since then, all reports have just focused on there only ever having been a lone gunman.

There was also a report (didn't see it myself, as it was posted on another forum, and my naff flash whatsit wouldn't let me open it) saying that the weapon that Adam was supposed to have inflicted more than one bullet wound into each victim with, was recovered by police from his car. Well how's that possible? A medical examiner supposedly confirmed all wounds were inflicted with a rifle (like the one in the car) but only hand guns were reported to have been found in the school, on his person.

The children were made to shut their eyes while leaving the building. But 2 of them have been quoted since as saying they heard conversations suggesting another person was arrested at the scene. If they're right, then there was a 2nd person who they're keeping quiet about, or it was Adam, in which case, I highly doubt the current official line of his having shot himself.

There are snippets about his girlfriend and another friend having gone missing in New Jersey - something that there's now silence about apparently.

And this picture being painted of Adam having been a loner, yet one of the same people who've been instrumental in portraying him as this, slipped up by describing how he & his mates used to congregate in a particular spot at school in their spare time. So he was a loner with mates, and later, a girlfriend.

I don't understand why early reports claimed Adam's mother was a teacher at the school and was one of those killed there, yet later that altered to her being unconnected with the school, and having been killed at home.

Also, I'm not sure how plausible it is that the lad would have been wearing a ski mask, and bullet-proof vest if he'd been planning to shoot himself.

There are other strange things too - like parents being told that they couldn't see the bodies of their children until Sunday. I'd have thought they'd have had to see them to give official identifications, quite apart from a natural desire of a parent to not believe it without seeing with their own eyes. You wouldn't send me away on a Friday, telling me I couldn't see my child until Sunday. Then, apparently, after that, they removed the bodies (still without being sighted by parents) on the Saturday.

So, there's a big question mark in my mind as to what exactly went on, and how much 3rd party involvement there may have been in the whole thing - and/or just how much oddly inaccurate reporting of events have confused things. :(
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 20:59 #304

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the similarities and connections to the Batman massacre are way beyond coincidence are they not? And if so does this not point to there being a hidden hand doing very very dark machinations?

Very much so. I'm hoping the informations wrong cuz at the moment my head says "no"!
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 21:03 #305

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If all this is verified sket then I strongly urge the people of the USA to take direct action straight a bloody way.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 21:09 #306

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dubmeup wrote:
If all this is verified sket then I strongly urge the people of the USA to take direct action straight a bloody way.

My brains still at the place where it's counting on it not being verified.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 22:09 #307

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Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment.

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As someone on another board I read has just observed ....
300 million guns and nobody has dealt with this shower of shit. Yet.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 22:11 #308

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
This sort of thing happens all the time, people used to get shot and killed all the time when I lived in Manchester. I assume they still do, I just don't see the Manchester Evening News headlines any more. Despite our stringent 'gun control'.

Things have actually improved a lot here over the last few years to be honest wub - the 'Gunchester' label of the 1990's no longer applies.

Not quite sure why, but its got nothing to do with 'gun control' itself imo. The weapons are still out there, just the gangs aren't shooting them at each other as much for whatever reason.

I'm in Levenshulme which is just as ganged-up as anywhere else in the city, and there's has been very little gang activity recently.
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Not quite sure why, but its got nothing to do with 'gun control' itself imo. The weapons are still out there, just the gangs aren't shooting them at each other as much for whatever reason.
Glad to hear things have improved. Maybe they worked out that it's more profitable to rob other people than shoot each other!
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My guess - far bigger and more serious fish than the likes of the Gooch Close gang have now got the city carved up.
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If all this is verified sket then I strongly urge the people of the USA to take direct action straight a bloody way.

What's going on dub's? what needs to be verified?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 16 Dec 2012 23:53 #313

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If all this is verified sket then I strongly urge the people of the USA to take direct action straight a bloody way.

What's going on dub's? what needs to be verified?

Have a read back of the last page or two RA and then think back to the Batman massacre. See if you see any similarities. If that shit is verified then what does it suggest?
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Obama is Live on TV from the school right now...
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 01:21 #315

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Gilly wrote:
batou wrote:
what happened to the 2nd guy they pulled out of the woods

Bats, I'm not sure if there's something fishy about that 2nd shooter aspect of things tbh.

I just tried to research it, and the most I could find was that (similar to the James Holmes case where 2 shooters became 1) there were police radio reports at the beginning, saying they (the cops) were closing in on 2 armed suspects wearing camouflage pants.

One of them escaped into the woods. Other reports don't say Adam was wearing camo pants btw. Just as some assertions have been made that Adam shot himself, but at the outset, the police supposedly announced that it was unclear whether he'd taken his own life.

They brought a suspect out of the woods in cuffs, and he apparently walked amongst the crowd of parents, saying that it wasn't him who'd been shooting.

He was detained, sitting with the police outside the school, and since then, all reports have just focused on there only ever having been a lone gunman.

There was also a report (didn't see it myself, as it was posted on another forum, and my naff flash whatsit wouldn't let me open it) saying that the weapon that Adam was supposed to have inflicted more than one bullet wound into each victim with, was recovered by police from his car. Well how's that possible? A medical examiner supposedly confirmed all wounds were inflicted with a rifle (like the one in the car) but only hand guns were reported to have been found in the school, on his person.

The children were made to shut their eyes while leaving the building. But 2 of them have been quoted since as saying they heard conversations suggesting another person was arrested at the scene. If they're right, then there was a 2nd person who they're keeping quiet about, or it was Adam, in which case, I highly doubt the current official line of his having shot himself.

There are snippets about his girlfriend and another friend having gone missing in New Jersey - something that there's now silence about apparently.

And this picture being painted of Adam having been a loner, yet one of the same people who've been instrumental in portraying him as this, slipped up by describing how he & his mates used to congregate in a particular spot at school in their spare time. So he was a loner with mates, and later, a girlfriend.

I don't understand why early reports claimed Adam's mother was a teacher at the school and was one of those killed there, yet later that altered to her being unconnected with the school, and having been killed at home.

Also, I'm not sure how plausible it is that the lad would have been wearing a ski mask, and bullet-proof vest if he'd been planning to shoot himself.

There are other strange things too - like parents being told that they couldn't see the bodies of their children until Sunday. I'd have thought they'd have had to see them to give official identifications, quite apart from a natural desire of a parent to not believe it without seeing with their own eyes. You wouldn't send me away on a Friday, telling me I couldn't see my child until Sunday. Then, apparently, after that, they removed the bodies (still without being sighted by parents) on the Saturday.

So, there's a big question mark in my mind as to what exactly went on, and how much 3rd party involvement there may have been in the whole thing - and/or just how much oddly inaccurate reporting of events have confused things. :(

I seem to remember reading something along the lines of some of the kids at Columbine saying that they saw people dressed in all black with assault rifles creeping through the hallways just before everything kicked off. I won't swear to anything in any order or fashion, but I do remember seeing that somewhere and seem to remember there being a black-out on that shortly after.

I think in these kinds of horrific events the news media are probably encouraged to muddy the waters with conflicting facts, figures and numbers JUST SO people don't get an accurate picture of what's actually going on so that IF there are any kinds of secret black-ops going on, we'd never know!! And I'm not one to entertain wild flights of fancy just for kicks, but I never rule out anything that crazy sounding just because it sounds, well, that crazy! If this is tied to that LIBOR thing and there are trillions of dollars at stake then I'd have no problem believing that there's some serious underhanded involvement with "off the records" brute-force. I mean, look at how many innocent children/civilians are bombed back to the times of Jesus over in the middle east on a daily basis right out in the open and not many people even seem to bat an eye. THIS is the world we live in. :(
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And I'm not one to entertain wild flights of fancy just for kicks, but I never rule out anything that crazy sounding just because it sounds, well, that crazy! If this is tied to that LIBOR thing and there are trillions of dollars at stake then I'd have no problem believing that there's some serious underhanded involvement with "off the records" brute-force. I mean, look at how many innocent children/civilians are bombed back to the times of Jesus over in the middle east on a daily basis and not many people even seem to bat an eye. THIS is the world we live in. :(

I just don't understand why 20 kids in a kindergarten classroom would get killed over the LIBOR thing?

Can someone explain this theory? :conf:
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I just don't understand why 20 kids in a kindergarten classroom would get killed over the LIBOR thing?

Can someone explain this theory? :conf:

It was a show of "Hey, look what we can do" coming from powerful individuals that have a LOT to lose if this guy goes forward with what he knows about things. (The father of the shooter.) So, they took his son and made him the focus of a horrible mass-murder scene and then killed him. So as to say "Expose us and we'll do worse than this". What could possibly be worse than this? But I'm not saying that this is totally what happened, it's just the implications of what could be. Sure, there are a lot of ins-and-outs but when you have trillions of dollars on the line, it's small 'taters.

And for the record, I'm not saying that this story isn't exactly what we're being told that it is. I am however suggesting that when things don't add up, and that's usually the case, increasingly so in these types of events, then maybe there's more (much, much more) to it than what we're being told/allowed to see.
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I think in these kinds of hor­rific events the news media are prob­a­bly encour­aged to muddy the waters with con­flict­ing facts, fig­ures and num­bers JUST SO peo­ple don’t get an accu­rate pic­ture of what’s actu­ally going on so that IF there are any kinds of secret black-​ops going on, we’d never know!!

That's an interesting thought. I am trying to think of other "live breaking" news reports and remember if they are usually more careful with the facts before reporting them.

This is something that is going around the internet now: In the move "Dark Knight Rises" there is a scene where a map is pointed to and it says "Sandy Hook". Obviously not the elementary school as that would not be on a map, but a coincidence? Is this real? I don't know. I would have to get a copy of the movie and look at it on the big screen probably.

If it was real, my next question would be... how did someone pick up on this? Is it obvious to see in the movie (because it is not clear on youtube video) Still not sure if it says Sandy Hook or not though (before the enhancement).

The Dark Knight Rises   Sandy Hook 1




The James Holmes/Colorado shooting took place in the theater where The Dark Knight Rises was premeiring. Making this another coincidence between the two.
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Did you see the picture linked in the video's description box, Nosey?

Looks legit, totally says "Sandy Hook" on the map. :umm:

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But the person who downloaded the picture could have tampered with the picture.

I got the picture from here:
www.imgbox.de/users/Deckard666/Sonstiges...s___Sandy_Hook_1.jpg

This website says the scene is at 1:58 in the movie.



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