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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 11:38 #341

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The original viral package/tube. (again note the article date).
https://www.ugo.com/movies/the-dark-knight-rises-viral-package

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Btw.
This marketing map is not the same map used in the scene cited.
I wrassle anyone who claims different.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 12:22 #342

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What are peoples opinions on adam lanza's mother?
I personally think she was a useless parent and probably more wrapped up in her own life than her kids lives.

Going of the photos i've seen of her son he looked malnourished for one thing,most likely to bothered about her possessions and big house etc than her kids.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 13:56 #343

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humanspirit wrote:
What are peoples opinions on adam lanza's mother?
I personally think she was a useless parent and probably more wrapped up in her own life than her kids lives.

Going of the photos i've seen of her son he looked malnourished for one thing,most likely to bothered about her possessions and big house etc than her kids.

Did you formulate those opinions from consulting your crystal ball, or believing what the papers say about her?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 14:31 #344

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Ok, had a little look around and the CIA/DARPA thing looks well suspect. The source of this 'info' appears to be that the Iranians handed over some files to the FSB and then somehow Sorcha Faal got it.....Not the most reliable chain..... Can't see any other references...So at this stage, I call unverified, suspect info.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 16:52 #345

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Ok, I'll play along .........
https://batman.wikia.com/wiki/South_Hinkley

South Hinkley, also known as Lower Gotham or Sandy Hook, is borough in Downtown Gotham City. First appearing in Batman: Gotham Knight and last appearing in The Dark Knight Rises, this location plays a big role in in Bane's plan to destroy Gotham.
The map which includes the place-name Sandy Hook was apparently distributed as part of a viral marketing campaign for Dark Knight Rises.
Check the date on this article ....
The Dark Knight Rises viral campaign continues
Bane's "strike zones" revealed Dec 16th 2011
https://www.totalfilm.com/news/the-dark-knight-rises-viral-campaign-continues


Strike One. This article talks about the map that was already mailed and received along with the T shirt. The article is dated Dec. 16th. Big Woop.
The new info comes courtesy of Superhero Hype, who were sent a package containing a t-shirt emblazoned with Bane’s image and bearing the motto “Fire Rises”. Pretty neat on its own merits, but more interesting was the packaging it came in.

Attached to the cylindrical tube in which the t-shirt was delivered was a map of Gotham detailing a number of “strike zones”, presumably a list of targets for Bane’s terrorist uprising.

The map makes reference to a series of “rally points” (one of which is presumably Gotham’s mirror-image of Wall Street) as well as noting the potential response time for the Gotham City Police Department.
So, if I am reading you right, feather, and I think I am; you are proposing that this article that you dug up is proof of a hoax and is lying about a package being mailed and yet they don't even bother, in the picture of the map, to show that Sandy Hook was on the map? Get real, already :larf:

And again, the date on this one ....
BATMAN: A Closer Look at the Gotham Map from the Viral Campaign
For you CBM sleuths who need a closer look at that map recently sent to us for the Batman TDKR viral campaign, I unravelled it from the mail tube and took a pic for you to go over with a magnifying glass. Go to it! And let us know what it means.
ComicBookMovie - 12/15/2011
As you know, select fansites recieved a Dark Knight Rises T-shirt in the mail today, and the tube which it came in had a map on it with mysterious strategery marked upon it. This is what it looks like when flattened.

Strike Two. Again, another website talking about a map that was already mailed and received. I guess they are in on the hoax too :roll:


The Batman archive site where nosey found the map ....
bat​man​gotham​c​ity​.net was registered on April 23, 2012 by a guy named James Stamp from .................. New Haven, Connecticut
Allegedly a male in his early 70's

His contact email host is listed as jamestamp.com which is registered to an address in New Orleans, Louisiana with a yahoo email contact.

jamestamp.com features the blog of one Jimmy Stamp, according to their c.v.. a writer on architecture and currently a "research associate at Yale University".
*He does list having worked in New Orleans for a time.

I am going to have to go ahead and call Strike Three because I have no idea why this has any bearing on the subject at hand.

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Be careful with your searches jamesstamp.com (two S's in the middle not one) ............ https://www.jamesstamp.com/contact.html is apparently a portable building/toilet hire outfit in Lincolnshire United Kingdom. :shtf:

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P.S. I do commend you on your efforts as you have revealed another coincidence in that these maps were mailed out shortly before this happened.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 17:11 #346

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Google sarch page for Batman tshirt and map viral campaign.

www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-...673&biw=1044&bih=488

Look at all of these batman afficiando websites that ran the story on approximately the same day about the goodies that they had just received.

If you were to have your way, that would mean on Friday, 14th, the day of the shooting, the viral campaign quickly printed up maps showing sandy hook and overnighted them to everyone. Wow. How intense that must have been. Quick thinking too. :think:

Either that or all the comic book, movie and review people and batman fans in general who have websites are all in on the hoax. They are all lying about a package that they have received and is in their hands. Hoaxers! :spank:

BTW, notice how any of the dozens websites make no reference whatsoever to Sandy Hook? Because that was not relevant to them. They were excited to get their merchandise. See?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 17:35 #347

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A movie website:

Collider.com

At noon the very next day after shooting this story ran with pics
THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Viral Campaign Continues with Bane T-Shirt and Cylinder Map [UPDATED]
by Matt Goldberg Posted: December 15th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

When I first saw the t-shirt, I cracked up. Apparently, Bane’s goals are to take over Gotham, bring down Batman, and make some money from CafePress on the side. The map of Gotham City is more interesting. It contains five “strike zones”, but this isn’t a real-world Alternate Reality Game hunt since—and I hate to be the one to tell you this—Gotham City is fictional.

UPDATE: We’ve been sent the t-shirt and map. We’ve added 17 high resolution photos.

Dark Knight Rises Viral Bane Shirt Map Cylinder Slice


The Dark Knight Rises Bane Viral Campaign 13 600x400


THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Viral Campaign Bane 597x600



One of many happy recipients of their Batman merchandise.

Or they are all liars!

Or - those Batman people are brilliant marketers. Imagine seeing a horrific story and running to the presses to print up new maps to be sent via overnight to all their geeky fans.

Admit it. That is not what we are looking at here.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 18:01 #348

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Upload date on Gotham City Map Archives for this map showing Sandy Hook is April 2012. :gleek:

batmangothamcity.net/gotham-city-map-archive/

Seriously..... you find it easier to believe that a monumentous hustle was done on the day of the shooting to get the idea, come up with a plan, gather all the t shirts, draw up the map and go to the presses set them up, run off the maps and let them dry and then roll them up and have someone stuff it all in tubes print out the mailing labels, then run in time to get them expressly mailed overnight.

Or is it easier to accept the coincidence :think:
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 18:21 #349

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i think he was devils advocate :axe:
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 18:26 #350

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Gilly wrote:
humanspirit wrote:
What are peoples opinions on adam lanza's mother?
I personally think she was a useless parent and probably more wrapped up in her own life than her kids lives.

Going of the photos i've seen of her son he looked malnourished for one thing,most likely to bothered about her possessions and big house etc than her kids.

Did you formulate those opinions from consulting your crystal ball, or believing what the papers say about her?

Admittedly the lads father was a useless parent also,but if she didn't pick up on her son behaving oddly she was in denial,as for allowing him access to firearms with so many bullets and caliber type what a reckless person she was.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 18:44 #351

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humanspirit wrote:
Admittedly the lads father was a useless parent also,but if she didn't pick up on her son behaving oddly she was in denial,as for allowing him access to firearms with so many bullets and caliber type what a reckless person she was.

Without yet being able to be sure of much regarding a more sinister involvement of '3rd parties', I'd say there's enough stuff come to light to cast some doubt on whether the lad in question even shot anybody at all, let alone, point the finger of blame at his mother's poor parenting skills.

A possible scenario is that the 2nd (and some reports mention a 3rd) suspect in the vicinity, now being erased without explanation by the MSM, did the shooting. Remember, he had only hand-guns on his person - yet the medical examiner announced that each of the victims bore 2 (and more) wounds inflicted by a long rife - like the one recovered from Adam's car, where it could easily have been planted, but NOT from the immediate scene.

His father was connected with 3 different companies who are being investigated regarding the LIBOR corruption, and he's said to have been the one who advised them on how to dodge paying taxes.

So this maniac boy goes on a murder spree, like James Holmes did. Holmes' father also, again coincidentally is involved in the LIBOR investigation, and there was also much contradiction and many 'facts' that didn't add up with the official story in that 'lone' murder spree either. But that doesn't ring any alarm bells for you?
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 18:57 #352

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This is a slow, draggy clip, but it saves you the bother of searching to see if Peter Lanza was connected to those companies, by showing his Linkedin profile...



*Edit* Disclaimer: Unless that turns out to have been tampered with too - am getting weary of trying to determine which are false trails!
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 18:59 #353

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batou wrote:
i think he was devils advocate :axe:

In that case....

:clap:

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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 19:53 #354

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Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were to testify
In the wake of the mass murders that took place in Newtown, Connecticut on Dec. 14, information on the shooter, and his family, is slowly being discovered by law enforcement other sources. One interesting connection to the tragedy that took place at the Sandy Hook school is that the father of Adam Lanza has a connection to the theater shootings that took place in Aurora earlier this year by James Holmes.

Both fathers of the shooters were allegedly expected to testify in the Libor scandal that rocked the banking world in June.

cont'd
www.examiner.com/article/libor-scandal-g...rers-were-to-testify

Must of us have seen what James Holmes father, the lead scientist at FICO, did with computers and how is able to track trillions of dollars.

It has already been verified that Adama Lanza's father, Peter Lanza is the Tax Director at GE Energy Financial Services. But was he really going to testify? That is the question. He did go to New Jersey where he was questioned by the police and FBI. Poor bastard.... NJ police? I ain't going there.... Except to ask was he questioned? Or something else?

General Electric is involved in tracking the money and has been for a long time.
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How antitrust economists are getting better at spotting cartels
Dec 15th 2012 | from the print edition

..THESE are nervy times for price-fixers. Banks that allegedly manipulated LIBOR, an interbank interest rate, are awaiting their punishment. At $800 trillion, the market is the largest ever to have been rigged. Fines to follow that imposed on Barclays in the summer are expected soon for other rate-fixing banks; this week saw the first arrests connected with the LIBOR scandal. Other cartels also have reason to be jumpy. The LIBOR case provides a good example of how competition authorities can use price data to scan markets, quickly spotting even small-scale collusion.

One way to identify dodgy prices is to use a splendidly counterintuitive phenomenon knowlarge data sets. Across thousands of metrics, including 3,259 different population distributions and 741 sources of data on firms’ costsn as Benford’s law. In a 1938 paper* Frank Benford, a physicist working for General Electric, pointed out a pattern that occurs in , he found that leading digits (for example, the numbers “3” and “7” in 3,259 and 741, respectively) are not distributed evenly, as you might expect. They follow a pattern: “1” is the most common and “9” the rarest.
www.economist.com/news/finance-and-econo...cartels-scam-busters

Tenouos connection, but it is there. Lanza was the tax director at GE, and GE paid $0 taxes on $14 billion profits last year. Could be that he was not necessarily going to testify and as of yet I have never seen a public list of who was. But, obviously he knows some things.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 19:56 #355

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humanspirit wrote:
What are peoples opinions on adam lanza's mother?
I personally think she was a useless parent and probably more wrapped up in her own life than her kids lives.

Going of the photos i've seen of her son he looked malnourished for one thing,most likely to bothered about her possessions and big house etc than her kids.

A day or two ago, I saw a headline on a news website regarding her issues and why she several guns but when I clicked on it the story was gone and I haven't run across anything since then.
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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 20:44 #356

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Oh nosey..... :coffee:

Maps
Indeed I was not only conceding that "Sandy Hook" did in actuality appear on the map and not put there/photoshopped on recently as part of a hoax.
I even went to the trouble of providing a link to some bat-nerd-wiki citing it's virtual existence.

I quoted the multiple instances of film magazines and fan sites receiving this marketing campaign and the dates they ran the articles providing further proof or convincing argument that the maps was genuine. (As genuine as any piece of manufactured marketing could be considered at least).

The dates of those articles were not only significant in terms of giving the map history or provenance, they also incredibly indicate that the mailing out of these maps in 2011, preceded the event by near-as-dammit one year to the day the Sandy Hook, CT massacre took place.

You stated earlier "At noon the very next day after shoot­ing this story ran with pics"
Eh nope girl, they ran that story a year ago! "Matt Gold­berg Posted: Decem­ber 15th, 2011"
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P.S. I do commend you on your efforts as you have revealed another coincidence in that these maps were mailed out shortly before this happened.
I find it interesting that you consider 12 months beforehand as "shortly before this happened"

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When checking on the veracity of any given information I also prefer to check out the source of the information as well, whenever possible.
So prior to even knowing about this viral marketing campaign I checked out who registered the site that was hosting/supplying the map.
That interestingly turned out to be someone claiming to live in
New Haven, Connecticut,
close to
Sandy Hook, Connecticut.

Another striking co-incidence.
Particularly as the contact email for that site tracks back to someone who registered the domain the email address refers to while living in New Orleans.
I'm sure there is nothing nefarious going on there, it's just a curiosity.


The one thing I won't concede is that the map used for the viral marketing campaign is the same one used as a prop in the actual film. Because it's clearly not. :poke:

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Re: 27 Dead in School Shooting 17 Dec 2012 21:19 #357

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Right, so, the map parts all sorted out... just the libor bit to go then.
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Plus loads of conflicting news reports regarding the shootings, and a threat from authorities that people posting inaccurate information about it will be arrested. :mad:
Is gossiping against the law now?..

It seems so, if it's on 'social web sites'.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bce_1355769028
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I've have not read the whole thread yet , but it's starting to sound like batman killed these children? I'm sure that not really what's been implied but that is how it looks just coming in at reading it

Sorry sometimes , a random person just 'loses' it and starts acting out all weird and goes on a killing spree before killing himself/herself .

This is what happens sometimes sometimes because humans are humans.....and not every situation of a mass killing or school shooting can be blamed on 'it's the CIA/FBI/MK ULTRA/...........it's not always a conspiracy sometimes folk are just troubled and go off on killing spree's for reasons only they know

However it's easier in America because you have guns ....and ok you want the right to bear arms .......but live with the consequences then .....I'm with Obama or who else says their should be no guns

In respect of people blaming his Mum......really......this thing happened was not her fault
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Thanks for clearing that up feather. I thought you were trying to debunk the map. I'll concede that the prop map in the scene on the Youtube video looks different. I haven't seen the movie so don't know if there are clearer pictures of the map showing the strike zones, etc. but I gather the map was used and referred to more than once in the move and the Batman fans would have known the details of it since they would have had it in their hands at the time.
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P.S. I do com­mend you on your efforts as you have revealed another coin­ci­dence in that these maps were delivered shortly before this happened exactly one year prior to the shooting. For practical purposes, I would say they were received on Dec. 14 and blogged about the next day

Fixed! :cheers:

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