noseymutegirl wrote:
No, on the map on the desk in the movie. It says "Sandy Hook", well actually it says "SANDY HOOK". Right on the map just slightly left and below the walkie-talkie cell phones. Take a look.

I edited my post on the previous page, phemo.

I said that maybe it is a photoshop?

You don't have this movie, do you? By the looks of the Youtube video it seems that it would be really hard to see even on the full screen?

If this was real I would actually be more puzzled by how someone would know/find this, than I would be by the coincidence.

noseymutegirl wrote:
Right on, we're up to speed now!
noseymutegirl wrote:
Photoshop? Really?? On the internet??? Naaah, never!!!

First thing to go through my mind. But I'd like to think that a person wouldn't be fucking with peoples minds using such a terrible tragedy as leverage. Although, I know it happens ALL the time. Hopefully, someone will be able to set it straight soon as to whether this map in the movie is legit or not.
noseymutegirl wrote:
No, I do not. I couldn't see jack-diddley-squat on the YouTube full-screen so unless someone with the movie can do further (honest) investigation and present the (true) facts, we'll just have to keep wondering. But that would be so freaky if it was!! As though the Universe sends out these cries beforehand to alert us of the coming sorrows, albeit in a very strange and obscure kinda way. And, not to rule out coincidence, however unlikely it may seem. Although I prefer the term synchronicities!

Exactly my thinking.

noseymutegirl wrote:
Im going to watch the movie and pause it during that part.

Thanks RA!

I was able to find that it is a real map. This is from the batmangothamcity.net website that has all Batman maps:



batmangothamcity.net/gotham-city-map-arc...p-dark-knight-rises/

If RA is unable to see it on the movie, that leads me to believe that someone from the art dept of the movie leaked this to the public. ETA: Either that or a real Batman fan who knows all the maps. And by "leaked" I mean "posted"

Very strange coincidences, huh?

I hope you meant today, RA, because I'm waiting for you.

I'm starting to think maybe it isn't such a big deal after all. Then I thought when the UKers look at it in the morning they will be surprised.

First they will be like this

And then when they see it is real... I don't know. I guess it is one of those mystical coincidences or vicioius pre-planning.

I'm calling shenanigans on this map caper.


The map on the screengrab
Note the scale of the 'cover' in the bottom right corner and the list of street names above it.


I have rotated and overlaid the map which came from the other site and used the 'sandy hook' element as a near-as-damn-it location and scale reference point to bias the outcome as much as possible in favour of it being real.

Nah, nothing else fits.
The cover scale is way out of whack,
The street name list is not present,
Neither the mapped areas nor the pen lines coincide on the rest of the image.


The excuse that the video on YT does not show the Sandy Hook text clearly because of Youtube's lo-res restriction, is bollocks, YT has had the capability to display HD content for a while now.


Some kid is trying to have a sick giggle.

But the map from the batman archive site is the Dark Knight Rises map.

The maps on the archive site clearly mark that area as 'Tricorner Yards' not 'Sandy Hook'.



aaaaand the font size used for Sandy Hook is larger than the one used for any of the marked areas.
Amatuers!

You have the wrong map.

batmangothamcity.net/gotham-city-map-archive/

Click on the map that says Dark Knight Rises.

I find it disturbing (IF this isn't some kind of bullshittery) that the "SANDY HOOK" region of the map is in "Strike Zone 1" and there are 5 strike zones. Would that mean there are four more such unspeakable events planned?? Ya know, IF this isn't just some crazy fluke or sick gag.

You don't think that website is in on a hoax, do you?

Or been hacked?

I think this. That it is good to try and debunk crazy shit, but you have to remain detached from the outcome without any bias towards what you what to find. Otherwise, you are not really searching for the truth but only trying to verify what you believe.



Remember this is not the first time something like this has happened. The Matrix, Knowing, etc.

Earlier today I read that the way he got into the school was by breaking through a window. So that answers that question.

I guess.

Re somebody having a sick giggle, there's stuff out there about a page for a (surprisingly young) teacher who was killed in Sandy Hook having a tributary remembrance page posted on FB for her days before the massacre. While people were speculating that this was done by Adam in advance, it then became apparent that it was actually someone out there now playing silly buggers!

Come to think of it, I wonder if that's what prompted the police to threaten arrest for 'People posting inaccuracies on the internet'? That sounds plausible.

Also, supposedly, Adam's older brother, Ryan, whom he was initially mistaken for due to his having his brother's id on him (despite the latter's claim that he's not been in touch with him since 2010) had his FB site removed on the day of the shootings, and replaced by numerous fake FB accounts in his name.

I was jumping about through lots of articles yesterday with the laptop freezing up every few minutes, so I'll have a go today (later when I've woken up) & try to copy & paste some links.

noseymutegirl wrote:
I try to always maintain an "anything is possible" kind of approach to things.
noseymutegirl wrote:

That website has something on it somewhere about how the artist came up with Gotham City. I can't be arsed to read it right now, but I thought it was roughly based on the NY area which does have a Sandy Hook. So I think this movie has legitimate coincidences and the map on the website is real and was there long before this month

Deal with it.

By the way, it was not like some conspiracy thread linked me to that website. I knew that there are hardcore Batman fans, and I thought there might be some maps somewhere of Gotham City, so I dug dip and did a search and that is how I found the website. I wondered if anyone has contacted him yet on his contact email?

Probably not. I bet he doesn't even know.



It's bedtime now

Good night.

Outstanding work, Nosey!! YOU, my good woman, get a cookie!!

Ok, I'll play along .........


The map which includes the place-name Sandy Hook was apparently distributed as part of a viral marketing campaign for Dark Knight Rises.
Check the date on this article ....
And again, the date on this one ....

The Batman archive site where nosey found the map ....
bat​man​gotham​c​ity​.net was registered on April 23, 2012 by a guy named James Stamp from .................. New Haven, Connecticut
Allegedly a male in his early 70's

His contact email host is listed as jamestamp.com which is registered to an address in New Orleans, Louisiana with a yahoo email contact.

jamestamp.com features the blog of one Jimmy Stamp, according to their c.v.. a writer on architecture and currently a "research associate at Yale University".
*He does list having worked in New Orleans for a time.


p.s.
Be careful with your searches jamesstamp.com (two S's in the middle not one) ............ https://www.jamesstamp.com/contact.html is apparently a portable building/toilet hire outfit in Lincolnshire United Kingdom.